Ethan in Cleveland
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On 6/7/2019 at 3:33 AM, eball said:
Tre will be one of the first test cases of Beane's stated "sign your own" philosophy.
Hmmm. McD already let the best corner in the league walk. Terrible decision. Could have signed long term or franchised. Say what you will but it is a black mark on his talent evaluation. That said he drafted White and added Poyer and Hyde so deserves high marks for those moves.
Series of dumb moves by Whaley too. He gave more money than TT was worth and should have forced him to earn it. Gilmore should have been extended after his fourth year and they could have paid far less than the Patriots paid him.
A past life at this point, and ad poster said in a couple years if they are still here Beane will be tested on his draft well and keep mantra.
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UDFA who gives a ***** about this guy. He should have been cut the moment the story broke. He's not worth waiting for due process.
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He either lost a power struggle with O'Brien or he was harassing employees
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58 minutes ago, row_33 said:
young as top 5? That’s Acid trip fanatical unreal devotion, I don’t care the slightest to know why you see it that way.... nice troll attempt though
What is your top 5? Young is 3rd all time in QB rating so I'm unclear why you think it is unreal?
Mine shifts around from time to time and is to some degree on how much I factor in the era they played.
Mine currently is Brady, Montana, Manning, Favre, Young, followed by Elway, Rodgers, Marino and Brees. I know many think more highly of Brees and Rodgers than where I have them listed. Right or wrong I think Brady and Manning are better than Brees and Rodgers and I'm compensating for the era in which they played for the others.
Just my opinion but at least the career QB rating suggests I'm not far off
3 hours ago, row_33 said:There you have it, someone with useless stats....
What is the useless stat? Interceptions?
If Favre throws two less INTs he probably wins two more SuperBowls.
As for important stats yes you can say wins and losses but I favor YPA and TD/INT ratio.
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I think these are the two most difficult choices to make when evaluating teams best QB.
NFL.com chose Rivers but I would go with Fouts. He is a better pure passer and if he were allowed to play with today's rules he would be unstoppable.
Young is in my top 5 QB of all time, but Montana is still my top choice. Again if Montana played today with his combination of athleticism and a accuracy, he would pass like Brady and add 400 yards on the ground.
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For me barring an injury to Allen, it is playoffs or bust this year. Three years is plenty of time and they have no excuses. This is their roster now. If they can’t get the team to gel then it is the coaches fault and they need to go.
That said, 8-8 or better and Pegula will bring them back.
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Don;t kid yourself, Gronk is coming back. He just wants to sit out training camp. The only way he does that is by playing the retirement card.
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11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:
The bills 2014 unit allowed less ppg, had more sacks, more takeaways and a better 3rd down % than the 2015 broncos unit. Basically the only advantage that goes Denver would be total yds.
That 2014 bills defense is one of the more underrated units in the last decade or so. It was easily a championship caliber defense.
And completely destroyed by Rex in 2 seasons
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2018 OTA - Vontae Davis is likely to be the starting CB opposite White
https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/7-observations-from-2018-buffalo-bills-otas-week-one
We would all be better off if reporters took a long vacation between the draft and training camp.
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11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Yes, he’s made the decision to do the bare minimum for his new team. We will see how that works out for him and for them. If they win, he won’t be criticized. If they don’t, he will. We all know how well he’s dealt with criticism in the past. He’s setting himself up, considering it’s a franchise with a losing pedigree. They have a lot of inexperience and little winning going into a season with very high expectations. For the first half of the season, until Kareem hunt’s suspension is up, he’s considered the biggest addition on offense who is supposed to put them over the top. Their offense was good against bad defenses last year and bad against good defenses. They need a ton of work, it’s not going to be some magical formula of talent on paper = wins. So I understand the coach’s frustration. If he was on the Bills right now, I’d be frustrated as a fan.
Were you frustrated with Bruce Smith once the season started? He barely showed up for training camp.
I agree it would look good and be a nice media story if he was there. Honestly I think it is a bad move on his part. If he shows up and runs 10 routes in shorts no one would say anything.
But my point is I just don't think these OTAs matter much and he will show up for camp ready to go.
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He doesn't have to be there and he will get plenty of reps in training camp. He will be just fine.
As soon as teams stop cutting high priced veterans they can start talking about loyalty. Until then the players need to do what is in their best interest. If you want to argue being at OTA's are in OBJ's best interest for his own performance, that is a reasonable argument to make. But at this point in his career, what is he going to get out of running routes half speed with no physical contact allowed. He will learn the playbook. He is a pro and will be fine game 1.
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1 hour ago, papazoid said:
Quenton Nelson - Left Guard
best interior lineman in league.
on his rookie deal contract ($6mil/yr ave).
under team control for 4 more years with 5th year option.
incredible value vs top end franchised player
could use the extra +$17 mil cap space per year on another player (compared to Khalil Mack ave $23 mil/yr or aaron Donald $22.5))
Shhh...guards aren’t worth taking in top10 according to this board
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Mack
Von Miller
Kelce
Bobbie Wagner and move Edmunds to OLB
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15 hours ago, White Linen said:
I'd have to disagree. Most don't love him, most think he got a head scratching contract from us and needs to stay healthy. He's a guy that when healthy, can put pressure on the QB.
Star on the other hand, IMO, was overrated. I've shown multiple times he didn't do his job well. He's an average player and he got huge money.
No doubt Star was paid too much. Same for Murphy, Ivory, Lee Smith, and Morse.
Morse is a significant upgrade but no one thought he was worthy of the highest paid C in the league. But that is what happens with tons of cap space around the league.
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4 hours ago, White Linen said:
"Many 53-man roster spots have been locked down entering this season, but there’s always a few surprises in store come September. Which current Bills players could win a starting job or secure a spot on the roster? Here’s one underrated player to watch at every position."
Trent Murphy? How would that be a surprise if he starts and why would that be underrated?
PEDs, injuries, and Lawson in a contract year. Star showed up ad did his job and this board hates him. Murphy stole a paycheck all year and somehow this board loves this guy.
It would be nice to get a pass rush from him. But best case scenario is he plays well enough to really push Lawson to excel.
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6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Are people really not putting Peterman up there?!? He is literally the worst QB in history!!! We kept trotting him out there and acting like he was a viable option. Nothing has brought more shame to this franchise than his performance against the Chargers. That whole situation was an absolute, predictable, train wreck.
He is numbers 1-10 on the list.
He' #1, 2-10 is McD for starting him on the road with the playoffs still a possibility.
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Last time I checked even in today's NFL tackling is still part of the game. This guy can't tackle in college.
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11 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
I do NOT see Russell Bodine making the cut, barring injuries, mainly because Feliciano AND Long both have position flex AND ability that Bodine simply doesn't have. They are quality depth guys/borderline starters at OC AND OG, whereas Bodine is maybe barely serviceable depth at OC and definitely nothing more.
Yeah I think you are probably correct. I didn't know Feliciano could play C too.
Bodine however is a low grade starter at center. I would trade him for a middle linebacker.
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Marv Levy
Superbowl XXV loss is on him as much as it is on Norwood.
56 minutes ago, Another Fan said:TJ Graham- nothing personal against the guy I only remember him getting a handful of catches his whole tenure. Caused Fitz that one game to give up the last second INT to the Patriots.
Mario Williams- had some good years only when Marrone was the coach. Definitely didn't live up to the hype from when he was first signed. Literally gave up on plays
Dan Carpenter- another only good when Marrone was the coach. Got slammed in the face by his own stupidity that one game with the helmet
Mario most definitely lived up to the hype. Rex destroyed the defense.
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In the following order:
Byrd
Brown
Bennett
Moulds
Williams and Jackson in a few years
In that order. Schobel racked up stats and was consistent and underappreciated. I'm just not sure he was every truly dominant. That said he is more deserving than Hansen (see below).
Fred Jackson. Great story and in the end he accumulated a lot of yards. He will be on the wall one day and perhaps deservedly so given his commitment to the team during some really bad years.
Take down Talley, Ferguson, Hansen, and Ritcher as none of these guys were truly transcendent players. They were all good and played lots of games but never were even close to the best at their position at any time in their careers. Hard to argue they were even in the top 10 at their position when they were at there best.
And time to get rid of OJ. His stats will live and he will be in the debate for top 5 RB of all time. But there is no reason to continue to glorify the person. It's not a record book it's a wall of fame.
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Agree Gore and Phillips are locks baring injury
Your OL is short an OT. I think Waddle is a near lock with Ford, Dawkins, and Nsekhe. I also dont think Feliciano is any more likely to get a roster spot than Teller. Long is probably more likely to beat out Bodine based on overall performance in the league, but Bodine was better than Long in 2018. Long when not injured is the better player. With Morse injury history I think the ability to play center will ultimately win Long a roster spot. If he is just a guard, then they will keep Bodine and it will be a battle between Long, Feliciano, and Teller for starter and backup opposite Spain.
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Report: any team without a ProBowl TE has discussed a Rudolph trade
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Jason Peters
The Bills have never had a TE make the Pro Bowl in franchise history unless of course you count Jason Peters. No secret I wanted Fant in a trade down this year.
I have no issue taking a RB in the first round if that fills a need. Spiller was drafted with Fred and Marshawn already on the roster. McGahee? Why, so Donahoe can try and prove he is smarter than everyone else? Elliot was drafted after Dallas built best OL in NFL. Get your QB and build the OL and then you can plug in a RB any way you see fit.
I don’t disagree about overhype with WR. Happens almost every year. Not sure why other than at some level to even make a training camp they must have had a highlight reel at some time. This year it is a guy from the CFL.
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Playing? He’s jogging in OTAs. I guess that is better than last year
5 Buffalo Bills under most pressure to perform in 2019
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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McD is top of list. This is his roster now. It's his second OC. Anything less than a winning season and he is done.
Needs better clock managment at end of half, be a little less reliant on Hauschka from 50+, take some chances on offense, and find a pass rush.