WideNine

Yup, those "scrub" OL players starting for the Bengals were driving our DL players 4 yards off the ball on many of those carries. It does make life a whole lot easier on your QB when you can keep down and distance short and have Chase and Higgins that defenders give huge cushions. Made it look real easy just driving down the field on us.

His piss poor line held up far better than our starters. Just saying. And i like their backup LT - could start for a lot of teams and would certainly push Dawkins the way he has been playing.

There is some truth to this. There are some tendencies I think Allen needs to correct in his approach to going through progressions. Having an OL collapse around him every snap does not help Allen or any QB overcome tendencies. Just the opposite usually.

This. Jones was our closest thing to that, and without him today the rest just got pushed around. Been saying for years that this non-stop investment in smallish "penetrating" DL players is a mistake - especially in your DTs.

A very flawed team for most of the season. Had to claw our way to wins against midling opponents most of the season and any attempt to discuss the issues drew a strange barrage of hate on the board. Kudos to the players on this team who did fight and claw all year to pull out the wins we had. We are the class of the AFC East, but not in the same league (this season) with the Bengals or Chiefs. Beane needs to simply do what he has to do to fix both lines. There are popular players he needs to let go of to make room I am sure and some tough decisions. They need to do some real soul searching as to why our DL got steam rolled by backups and why our starting OL got consistently beat by 3 and 4 man rushes and cannot open run lanes. There are guys playing out the final years to either big long-term contracts or letting them walk. Today's game made you ask where are the playmakers on this team.

He has only had a few solid games this year. I like Dawkins as a person, but we need a LT that can protect Allen and Dawkins has not lived up to that expectation this season. Slow moving his feet, gets bull rushed back into the pocket, gets beat on inside and outside moves... Teams like to settle on the LT, I get it. But I would not mind if the Bills bring in someone who could really push for that LT spot. May light a fire under his rear.

I agree... running right at him was not where Von shines.

If we are honest Josh's accuracy on dumps and swing passes has never been his strong suit. It is why defenses don't really focus on covering those areas. That, and the fact that Allen usually prefers to throw deeper. It would be a good thing for him to focus on working with his RBs in the offseason he has weapons in Hines and Cook who are effectively crippled if we cannot use them that way.

If missing Jones creates this kind of mismatch for our DL against backups, Beane has to seriously reevaluate his investments across that line. Rousseau, and Jones have been showing up all year. Oliver is effective, but usually if we have someone like Jones next to him... We know Von can bring it. The rest?

Dunno... the coverage was right there. Not sure where else he goes with the ball. Did not like bringing in Cook and the whole Bengals D shifted to a run stop look. That is when perhaps you do pass the ball instead.

Romo nailed it the Bengals are more physical on both sides of the lines.

They would just run Mixon down our throat for 8-10 yards a pop.

Jackson has made some plays, but they need more fire on that DL. We miss Jones in the middle. Without him they can focus and nullify Oliver.

The pressures matter, the sacks matter. He gets paid too much to play at the level he has been playing this season. He has been really inconsistent and Allen doesn't need that on his blind side with Brown on the other side. He needs to get back to where he was or they need to start looking for their next LT.

Dawkins....

Yikes that was just bad. Did Jones suit up today? I know he was a ?

A lot of acrobatic plays have been reversed this year with players just shifting the ball before hitting the turf IMO. Heck of an effort by Milano who has come to play.

Did everyone catch that piss poor middle rush on the Chase... non touchdown. DT just flat out gave up... did not catch the number.

....and then the Bengals get a sack with a 3-man rush. There are holes on every team. It will be an interesting offseason for Bean where he focuses his efforts.

All that investment in DL and can't get to Burrow against all their OL backups... Seems pretty pathetic... also giving up huge chunks on just about every run.

I thought this before... Cook needs better cleats. He has slipped a lot in past games... should be an easy fix if your equipment folks are on top it. For a weapon like Cook you want him to be able to make quick cuts. Our OL talent needs more investment than what it has had... and some push and e v a l of existing high $ contracts.

I am kind of glad Josh is not getting as much of this ball washing that they are piling on Mahomes. Can kind of see why it is a turn-off. Seems like everytime they really preasures Mahomes he found Kelce, so you know what you have to take away to make him hold the ball a bit longer.

It is the way officials are not calling OPIs and DPIs this season. It allows for a lot more physical play from both sides of the ball if the trend continues. Makes the mismatch of DBs and Safeties on TEs even more enticing as TEs can get that pushoff at the top of their routes and create space for themselves.

Interesting article from The Ringer that dives deeper into the successes and some of the things that are not working as well this season. Goes into some comparison data between Daboll's offense and Dorsey's too that is interesting. https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2023/1/20/23563615/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-offense

I thought he was holding up well against the Ravens when he came in - just say'n. Funny. Coaches or writers... who should we believe???