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I said “loaded with talent”… 🤷‍♂️ You specified rounds 1-2. There is 10-15 guys who have the talent to be a starter or key contributor on a team to me. Going by the previous years, that’s above the average. LOL?

I think Coleman was a fine player in college and at times looked dominant but with him the concern I have is his lack of separation against man coverage. Those windows get smaller and tougher to routinely make in the pros as much as he did last year. He was a stud and game changer, I can’t deny that. Our problem last year was against man coverage. The receivers couldn’t do much, now while that was Keon’s game last year; producing in that scenario, it’s not something I want to hang my hat on and hope the guy we draft to be the #2 or heir apparent to our current #1 can replicate year in, year out.

Because you don’t have 1st or 2nd round grades on them means there isn’t a depth of quality potential players? Got it. Look at the history and numbers, Safety has some moderate success rate for finding a player in rounds 3-7. 2018 provided 5 guys who are productive in the league between rounds 3-6. 1 All-Pro who was a UFA 2019; 6 between 3-7 1 UFA starter 2020; 6 between 3-7. (This draft has 3 guys half the board were clamoring over to sign this off-season) 2021; 4 between 3-6 2022; 2 between 3-7, 1 UFA 2023; 7 between 3-7, 1 UFA All of those referenced have either become a starter or log a decent amount of snaps coupled with production. In terms of the “mid range talent”, this draft has some decent prospects who could become starters over the next few years. More so to me than last years draft. Obviously it would have to be a revisit down the road, so you’re more than welcome to come back to this and prove me wrong when the time comes. I don’t disagree about the home run talent. It’s minimal at that position, 2-3 guys for the first two rounds. But there is a lot of quality and experience coming out this draft at that position.

Always felt that was the way other than QB if they weren’t running a “pro system” in college. Get your licks and play time early and often. Whether the play is great or not you see what you have to work with instead of a sprinkle here or there. Baptism by fire is the way. Cream always rises to the top.

So just the 2 picks to get 17, 60 & 2025 1st?

Personally, there’s at least 20-25 guys who will get drafted at that position. That, at a minimum is 10% of the draft. Same as it has been. Of those guys I think 10-15 of them are starters with 2-3 years. DeJean, Hicks, Bullock, Nubin, Bullard, Bishop, Brade, Kinchens, Oladapo, Williams, Green and Demerson. Then you got the other haul of players who could develop into quality talent; Smith, Mustapha, Logan Jr, Vaki, Proctor, Carlies and Taylor… Difference of opinion but I think it could be a great year for safeties.

Yeah brother. That’s where I’m at with both of those FSU guys. The same guy is who I’m thinking too. Wouldn’t hate it as he’s not the prototypical big bodied dominant receiver but the kid is a gamer. His best year however was when Burton transferred to Alabama and Mitchell to Texas. Not saying that year was pedestrian but he wasn’t exactly dominant as the number 1 WR for Bennett. Either way, he has tremendous value to move around the field and like you said, for where we are picking it sounds like he’s the guy who fits what Beane was highlighting regarding the position.

You’re right but his point was depth. Which, as it stands is 2 practice squad guys from last season; Ja’marcus Ingram and Kyren Brown… They didn’t get called up for a reason. Personally I don’t think the quartet of Benford/Douglas/Johnson/Elam is that bad but it certainly could be better behind them. Liked what I saw from Ingram on the limited action he saw on the field and so did the Bills hence the futures contract he signed at the end of the season. Do need some other bodies in there for the same reason you also stated; we lost corner after corner. Need to get 2 if not 3 more guys to enter the start of the camps. Having enough DBs is never a bad thing in today’s game. Especially with the luck we’ve had the past 3 years.

For where we are picking? 🤔

And thus, the boy was given the throne… All hail King Cade!

Absolutely loaded with talent at Safety this year. CB I think falls out of the range talent wise to be picking at 60 but you never know. Pretty top heavy and I feel it thins out between the middle of round 2 to round 5. Might have to target one of those Penn State boys, all 3; Dixon, Hardy & King, have talent. King probably goes in the 3rd IMO and Hardy the last of that trio purely down to size. Oregon’s Jackson is intriguing, big body who uses him frame well to contest catches; only problem is he has a tendency to hang on and grab the matchup he’s guarding. Needs some refinement there. Jarrian Jones and Cam Hart are two CBS I’m keeping an eye on. Look to have the tools to be decent boundary players. Only concern is why they moved Jones primarily to slot CB at FSU this year when the two prior he was solid outside… Think he’s better than Cypress and a little worse than Green who’s coming out this draft also. Do need to draft a CB and at least 1 safety though… Will be interesting to see the revamp.

We need a safety, as we all know. Jaden Hicks, Cole Bishop and Jaylon Carlies are who I hope they target. All natural athletes with good instincts at the position. Productive as well for multiple years. Wouldn’t mind Oladapo or Air Force’s Trey Taylor either for the same reasons. This draft has a lot of guys who look to have NFL talent.

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8. Malik NabersWR LSU 74. Kris JenkinsDT Michigan 128. Khyree JacksonCB Oregon 144. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 160. Luke McCaffreyWR Rice 189. Tommy EichenbergLB Ohio State 200. Trey TaylorS Air Force 248. Kedon SlovisQB BYU

I don’t know man, I think you’re probably right given his combine stats and production during one of the harder schedules in CFB. The only thing against him is an absolute quiet first 4 years…

35. Darius RobinsonEDGE Missouri 60. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 66. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson 70. Sedrick Van Pran-GrangerOC Georgia 128. Jaden HicksS Washington State 144. Johnny DixonCB Penn State 160. Jaylon CarliesS Missouri 189. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 200. Cornelius JohnsonWR Michigan 204. Austin ReedQB Western Kentucky 248. Kingsley EguakunOC Florida

#28, #163, #203 2025 1st & 3rd. Traded down from #60

9. Malik Nabers WR LSU 86. Cole Bishop S Utah 127. Maason Smith DT LSU 128. Khyree Jackson CB Oregon 150. Kit’ Oladapo S Oregon State 160. Luke McCaffrey WR Rice 189. Mohamed Kamara EDGE Colorado State 199. George Holani RB Boise State 200. Drake Nugent OC Michigan 248. Sam Hartman QB Norte Dame

9. Rome OdunzeWR Washington 75. Kris JenkinsDT Michigan 128. Brenden RiceWR USC 144. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 163. Jaylon CarliesS Missouri 200. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 218. Sione VakiS Utah 220. Drake NugentOC Michigan 248. Sam HartmanQB Notre Dame 250. Jamree KromahDT James Madison

Yeah, it’s Nabers & MHJ as the 1 and 2. Take your pick as whos first. Personally, it’s MHJ for me but each to their own. Odunze isn’t that far behind. I’d actually group Odunze and Thomas as the 3 & 4. Edge goes to Odunze due to back to back solid seasons @ Washington. They measured similarly across the board at the combine drills with the only obvious difference being the 40 time where Thomas was noticeably faster than expected.

It’ll be a long shot but the Bears are probably the best team to trade with. They have nothing this year to work with and might be willing to part with #9 for a couple later picks, and 2025 1st & 3rd. Would love that to be the case of Nabers or Odunze are still on the clock. However, if that’s the case I see a few teams calling them…

Can always get a little more when you know the options are very thin and they want the position that’s of need to them…

You’re absolutely right. Thought we got a little less than we should have at the time. Ball park to get into the 10-15 range would be what? Pick 28 and next years 1st & 3rd?

Yeah, They wouldn’t take #28, the 1st and 2nd. Thought f— it. Trade Diggs and the picks and see… They accepted. Never going to happen which is part of the fun of Mock drafts. Also have this one. 28, 1st and 2nd for 15. Traded out of 60 and used the extra picks in a package to get into the 3rd round late. 15. Rome OdunzeWR Washington 62. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson 86. Sedrick Van Pran-GrangerOC Georgia 128. Malik MustaphaS Wake Forest 130. Khyree JacksonCB Oregon 160. Luke McCaffreyWR Rice 165. Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State 247. Ryan WattsS Texas 248. Jackson MitchellLB UConn

PICK: 9 RND: 1 (BUF) Rome ODUNZE WR Washington PICK: 28 RND: 1 (BUF) Quinyon MITCHELL CB Toledo PICK: 128 RND: 4 (BUF) James WILLIAMS S Miami (FL) PICK: 134 RND: 4 (BUF) Blake FISHER OT Notre Dame PICK: 144 RND: 5 (BUF) Tyler DAVIS DT Clemson PICK: 160 RND: 5 (BUF) Tykee SMITH S Georgia PICK: 163 RND: 5 (BUF) Curtis JACOBS LB Penn State PICK: 189 RND: 6 (BUF) Cornelius JOHNSON WR Michigan PICK: 200 RND: 6 (BUF) M.J. DEVONSHIRE CB Pittsburgh PICK: 204 RND: 6 (BUF) Jase MCCLELLAN RB Alabama PICK: 248 RND: 7 (BUF) Bub MEANS Traded Diggs, 2025 1st & 2nd. 🤐