BillsFan1988
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I'm hoping they either
A- draft Oliver @ 9 then trade bk into the first for Fant . Most likely at 22 with the Ravens by the draft chart it would take a 2,3,4 & 5 . That would leave us with the 2 1s , a 4th , 5th, 6th and 2 7s still.
B - draft TJ Hock @ 9 and trade bk into late first for either Wilkins, Tillery or Simmons
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Just now, eball said:
For the umpteenth time...the red helmets are garbage. Certain Bills fans are just sentimental about them because that's what the Kelly-Thurman-Andre-Bruce Bills wore.
Let me assure you, if the Bills of the 90s had been wearing today's uniforms they'd have been even more badass.
Not at all dude. Those Red helmets were glorious. Lol. Naw foreal I loved them
Especially on the road the all white look i don't like it.
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I heard they were gonna go back to the Red end zones but for TV purposes they won't. Something about on screen it doesn't look good.
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I wish the Bills would go back to the 90s look with the Red helmets but with a more moderate look. Kind of like what we use now but instead with the red helmets. I think it made us look tougher.
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4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Hope you are correct. He has been a marginal swing tackle most of his career and is 33. Mills was mostly below average, decent in run game, and putrid at time in pass protection. Just not convinced Nsekhe is much better. Still want to see OT drafted on day 2
Marginal is not the correct word to describe Nsekhe. Nsekhe has been the best swing tackle in the NFL for at least 2yrs.
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I believe the best strategy this yr is to take TJ Hockenson at # 9 or trade bk a few spots and get him .
Secondly trade up into late first hopefully using some of the firepower we got from moving bk a few spots and draft either.
Christian Wilkins
Jerry Tillery
Jeffrey Simmons
With this strategy we hit on 2 top needs with players that can be impact game changers.
A team I'm hoping we can trade with is the Packers hopefully we swap firsts 9 & 12 and get a 3 & 5 in return. Then we can use our 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th to move bk into late first say pks 25-30 to get that DT we need. If we can pull this off we still have 3rd from Pack trade a 4th , 2 5s, 6th & 2 7ths to fill other needs.
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The way i would do it is target difference maker talents that can't be found via trades or free agency.
Other then QB
TE is the #1 position for this type of philosophy. So let's start by drafting TJ Hock. He's the best all round TE since Gronk .
This is the supply and demand method of building .
TE
DE
OT
CB
DT3
These are the differences maker positions other then the obvious QB
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this Back but he was really fun to watch.
Charlie Garner Eagles & Raiders
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5 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
Is he honestly any better than Shaq, Trent or Hughes? Maybe he is a bit more talented, though untapped. Wouldn't we be better off just drafting a guy rather than throwing the pics away.
Probably would of said the same thing yrs bk about Hughes I say do it.
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Good work Gunner , I would love Oliver at 9 I just don't see him making it there. Some team will take him before us. To much potential to pass up.
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4 hours ago, BisonMan said:
Has anyone seen a list of likely June 2nd roster cuts from across the league? The Bills still have a lot of cap space (~$33M) and could definitely upgrade some positions (OL, DL, etc.).
Looking at OverTheCap.com, there are a number of teams without enough 2019 space (<$5M) to even sign their rookie contracts (Bucs, Steelers, Vikings, Panthers, Falcons?) while others are close. A few OL players from those teams have big contracts and could be on the downside of their careers (28+ years old). Guys like Riley Reiff (Vikings LT) or David Decastro (PIT RG) or Alejandro Villanueva (Pit LT) could come free as cap casualties.
The DL outlook is similar. 4-3 DTs include Kawann Short (Panthers...of course), Gerald McCoy (Bucs), Linval Joseph (Vikings).
For Edge Rushers, high cap players are Everson Griffen (Vikings), JPP (Bucs), Ryan Kerrigan (Washington), Cameron Jordan (Saints)
I'm not saying the Bills should sign FA contracts with these players (if available) or even trade for them. Just curious what anyone has heard. I know I've already seen rumors about the Bills trading picks for Gerald McCoy.
EdWGood work I just don't see any of these guys getting cut maybe traded but not cut. Btw they can fix there cap very easily just by redoing contracts.
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4 hours ago, Bills2ref said:
A) I’m not so sure. Last year Gettleman’s interests and intentions were pretty well known and came to fruition. So we have some history to go off of.
And B) if this is true, then absolutely. Simply a horrendous GM. If he passes on a QB at 6 and I’m the owner of the Giants he is fired immediately.
I'm not a fan of Gettleman but I agree these QBS in this draft aren't the prospects look for at that position.
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Ricky Williams he's probably the only back in history to go from over-rated to under-rated .
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Arian Foster Texans
Robert Smith Vikings
Fred Jackson Bills
Cory Dillon Bengals
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16 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
Haven't watched much film on him, but from what I've seen he is a good off the line receiving tight end. But if I am drafting a tight end in the first two rounds I want a player who can be on the field on running downs as well. Hock is probably the best all around tight end in the draft, but I still say his blocking is more desire than technique. There are instances where he looks like he blocking while on ice skates. Irv Smith is a great blocker, but he has suspect hands. Again, I like Fant as a wideout just not sure he will a complete tight end in the league.
He does seem to lose balance at times but when his technique is right he can be a punisher . I've seen him pancake guys. Did u see the Iowa vs Mississippi state game he pancakes Sweat a couple of times.
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1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:
I don't remember that. That would have been like Brown and Simpson in the same backfield, only better. There's only one ball to rive to your running back, but there are two paths to the quarterback. I mean, can you imagine that? If I'm on the team that starts White and Smith at the two defensive ends, I want to be a defensive tackle. With the constant double teams on the outside, I'm going to get a lot of good looks at the QB.
That's the beauty of it . It's very hard to even double team both unless your playing 12 or 13 personel and that would kill the passing game. Plus they both played on the opposite side of one another so there would of been a natural transition for White. Man we missed out on an opportunity to have arguably the 2 greatest ever to play there position on the same team.
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7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Yeah, I get it. All I can say is that if you'd seen them live, there's a chance you'd change your opinion.
The thing I often though about Sanders is that he did things that didn't look humanly possible. Sometimes watching him was like watching some video game fantasy game. Nobody else has done that. As I've said, sometimes Shady gets vaguely close, but not really.
I think that aspect of Sanders' play makes him unique among all running backs. But if you're drafting a team to play in the NFL, unique isn't necessarily the best. I think a team with Brown or Simpson (and maybe one or two others) has an advantage over a team with Sanders. All I know is I'd pay to see a game with the Brown and Sanders as the two starting running backs.
U know what I wish and this wish was very close to happening was for the Bills to have signed Reggie White to play with Bruce Smith. Oh my that would of been killer . The pocket would of collapsed like a can of soda being hit on the highway.
Reggie had the Bills on his short list of teams he wanted to go to. I believe the Jets, Packers were 2 of the others. We would of won those next 2 Superbowls vs Dallas and maybe more. I always blamed Ralph for not going after him. Maybe this had something to do with Pollan leaving who knows.
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14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
I think Beane is eyeing Tillery at 40....
With TJ Hock in the first. I'll be doing some hopping whIle I'm walking for a few weeks after the draft. Lol
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23 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
It's funny, because it's an endless discussion.
To you I'd say the reason it's Brown is that he needs to be in the speed category as well. He was the fastest man in the league.
And I have OJ way up on my list because he belongs in the elusiveness category with Sanders (although they were elusive in different ways) and in the multipurpose category, as well (although because of the era the Bills didn't throw to him as much as some of the more modern backs).
And to thenorthremember, all I can say is there is no way I put Tomlinson in the top five and leave OJ out. Tomlinson was great, but his best days were OJ's average days.
And that's one of the things that makes the discussion hopeless. It's a team game, and any skill player's performance is a function of not only his ability, but all sorts of things both his teammates and his opponents are doing. Brown and Simpson and Sanders all had good offensive lines, and they all faced defenses stacked to stop them. For sure, some of them played in better total circumstances than some others, but it's impossible to determine that and factor it into the discussion.
These comps are definitely like splitting hairs . It's all about preference. I didn't watch OJ or JB live i watched them on highlight videos and they were Supreme talents. Barry on the other hand I watched his career closely and he was the best by far that I ever seen. I wish he would of took down the record he had a chance for 20,000 yds that would have been unbreakable especially with the way RBS are used today in RBBCs.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said:
The only real argument against Sanders is all the negative runs. People definitely recall the highlights, but what the don’t recall are the 3-4 carries before the 50 yard touchdown. He’d average 5 yards a game, but he had a penchant for negative yardage which was often caused by impatience and a desire to hit home runs. It’s why he often got pulled in short yardage situations and the red zone. Of course people also forget how good a lot of those 90’s defenses were.
Yea I remember alot of the negative plays. But he also took what the defense was giving him alot of the time also but what u have to remember is the 9 man boxes he was seeing .
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10 hours ago, whorlnut said:
In this scenario, I think the only two players keeping the Bills from trading down are Jawaan Taylor and T.J. Hockenson. The Bills could finish the o-line for years to come with Taylor and give Allen the best protection possible. Hockenson could provide good blocking and pass catching skills as a safety blanket to Allen. Either one would be a huge upgrade and provide us with a potential pro bowler.
I think the Bills have their eyes on Jerry Tillery at 40. Apparently, they have been at a lot of ND games this year and I could see Beane being enamored with Tillery’s size. He loves prototypes.
All that said, I hope we trade down and pick up a second 2 or 3. This would allow us to get another potential starter and give us ammo to move around the board.
I think u are on to something here is can see any combination of Hock & Tillery or Oliver & a TE either a trade up for Fant or Irv Smith at #40.
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8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Its without question: Barry Sanders.
I get all the Brown hype, but thats like saying Wilt Chamberlain was the best Center ever...he was not. Brown had such a physical advantage and led the NFL rushing many times because of it. But he was not the most talented RB to ever play.
Barry was most talented RB the NFL has ever seen and may ever see. And he did it on terrible teams behind terrible OL's every single year. Yet he would be atop the record books as the all time leading rusher had he not retired young. And he did all that in an era where the passing game was much more of a factor. Brown did it when all they did was run.
I agree watching film of Barry gives me that same feeling as when I watch Michael Jordan. Just watching these 2 players u sense and see utter greatness unmatched by there peers.
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8 hours ago, sven233 said:
Depends on what you're looking for. Barry Sanders was the best that I saw, but you could make arguments from Jim Brown, OJ, Walter Payton, Bo Jackson or a bunch of other guys. You could make a great argument for Thurman with the way he could run it, catch it, and block. Thurman might be the best all around back ever. Just depends on what you want in your RB.
As much as I loved Bo he doesn't deserve to be in this discussion.
1 hour ago, mannc said:I’m absolutely amazed that on a Bills board, OJ Simpson is left off anyone’s list. In his prime, which admittedly was too short, there was never anyone better, before or since. (OK, I never saw Jim Brown play.). OJ had it all—sprinter’s speed on a 215 pound frame, incredible balance and vision, and he was an excellent receiver, too. He made it all look effortless. It’s too bad his first three years in Buffalo were wasted playing for coaches who were too stupid to know what they had.
Next to OJ, Barry Sanders was just a gadget back—fun to watch, but that’s it. And of course he never won squat.
Barry a gadget back? I don't know if I should laugh or cry of laughing. ?
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12 hours ago, Irv said:
Very difficult to tell.
I feel bad for Whaley he never got to pk the coach he wanted to run this team and the injury bug hit this team hard in those 2yrs with Rex. If we stayed healthy that team could of been lethal.
Draft Strategy: Beane absolutely must draft around coaching this year
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