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47 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
So who are you replacing them with and actually make the team better? You knocked $24 mil off with the 3 listed above, what actual improvement are you going to make with that money? It's doubtful $24 mil is going to improve the line all that much. Your initial post listed 5 players you wanted to cut, one of which Star will cost additional money to cut. I think it's reasonable that two of the three will be cut. With Star coming back the team has one extra D-Line player available, so it's feasible to cut Addison and one of the tackles and just sign a top edge rusher with the $16 mil savings, certainly doable.
Anything much beyond that it likely becomes a one for one, cut/sign replacement. You want to cut four and sign two, the math doesn't exactly work out. Sure you could draft a rookie, but counting on him to contribute at the level of any of these guys you're looking to cut is not likely.
I believe too that a big issue the Bills had this past season on the D line was do to bringing in a number of new players, then having no off season or per-season for them to work together. Add on top of that with Star's opt out, they didn't have any true replacements on the team for his role. They tried a number of these new guys in that role, none of which worked out very well. They did improve towards year end, but never to the level expected them to play at and to the level they were paid. Now you want to repeat the same thing in another season which likely is going to have at least some level of an abbreviated off-season.
I would be fine with drafting a mid round rookie to play Stars role and let him sit on the bench this season and just watch, in 2022 or 23 then can reasonably cut Star and bring the rookie in.
Like it or not the Bills scheme on the D line appears to be we're going to wear you down with quality depth so by the 3rd quarter our subs will be able to beat your best players as we're much fresher. That concept worked pretty well in 208 and 2019, not so much in 2020. What that does mean is the team wants 8 to 9 quality players on the line so if cutting multiple players need to end up signing more and finding money to sign them with and likely play much better than the player you're cutting for the same amount of money. How likely is that to wok out?
One question I've often wondered, if Beane had known last year around this time that they'd be limited to no off-season, would he instead have more leaned towards signing Lawson and J Phillips instead of all the new players.
I respect the dialogue that's what boards like this are all about. I think u bring up some very valid points. What I was basically saying is we need to consolidate on the line we have bkups getting starters money to play 30-40 percent of the snaps.
I realize Mcd likes to have a rotation but there's other ways to get this done then spending over 50mil on the dline and getting poor results in return. We need some studs that play 60-65 percent mixed in with some cheap vets or draft pks rotating in on occasion. Last yr I was dumbfounded by all the money spent on DTs in free agency . Murphy was inactive all yr with his 10 mil salary. I mean Norman and Murphy got 16 mil basically to do nothing. We should of signed James Bradbury instead . The Giants got him for 3yrs - 45 mil and that was steal. Imagine Bradbury and Tre on opposite sides .
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24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Since you keep bringing this up, why don't you tell us exactly the moves KC made in the 2019 off season?
They traded away Dee Ford and Cut Eric Berry, Steve Nelson, Justin Houston .
They added Tyrann Mathieu, Frank Clark, Breshad Breeland and Alex Okafor
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14 minutes ago, thurst44 said:
Large DTs clog up the space that allows QBs to step into their throws, while also taking up an extra defender oft times. It was actually talked about frequently when they signed Star and sorry, but it just irks me that he did what he was supposed to do yet he was savaged here b/c he doesn't get stats, which is true of most players at his position. Shaq was more responsible for guarding the edge, and occasionally rushing the passer--I actually agree that he didn't get his full due when in Buffalo as he was never supposed to be a 10-sack kind of DE. His loss is relevant in their struggles against the run as he was good at contain. Jordan Phillips, maybe you have a point, but he was a different kind of DT.
In any case, do you really believe Star was so bad that we should lose 5m in cap space by cutting him?
Its not that Star is a bad player I respect Star game immensely. I'm just not sold after a season off that he can just come back and play at the same level as before he opted out. He's gonna have to add back the weight. I heard he lost quite a bit of size during the opt out.
Harrison Phillips was great in the last 6 weeks of the season. It took him some time to fully get healthy but I think he's the run stopper where looking for at the 1 tech. There's also a few big run stuffing DTs in the draft and even a few guys in free agency we can get for close to or near vet minimum to back HP up. Why not build around Oliver and Phillips at the tackle spots?
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2 hours ago, Doc said:
Cutting Hughes wouldn't be smart unless you have an upgrade ready to go. And cutting Star pre-June 1st will cost an additional $4.7M against the cap.
It frees up 4.7 mil this yr and even more next yr when u factor in dead money.
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2 minutes ago, thurst44 said:
First off, cutting Star actually would cost almost 5 million and yeah that would be smart to do after a year in which we gave up the most yards to tight ends without him after leading the league in fewest yards to tight ends the two years he was there. Hughes is a beloved member of the team who had the second best pass rush block win total and he's been up there every year. I get the three new guys, although I'd still try to get Addison to restructure b/c he made some plays and was clearly a clubhouse leader, and a lot of the success of this team has been the culture. A lot of fans are really quick to want to blow up a 13-3 team that was one game away from the Super Bowl.
Tell that to Andy Reid and Bill Belicheck.
Just now, BillsFan1988 said:Tell that to Andy Reid and Bill Belicheck.
3 minutes ago, thurst44 said:First off, cutting Star actually would cost almost 5 million and yeah that would be smart to do after a year in which we gave up the most yards to tight ends without him after leading the league in fewest yards to tight ends the two years he was there. Hughes is a beloved member of the team who had the second best pass rush block win total and he's been up there every year. I get the three new guys, although I'd still try to get Addison to restructure b/c he made some plays and was clearly a clubhouse leader, and a lot of the success of this team has been the culture. A lot of fans are really quick to want to blow up a 13-3 team that was one game away from the Super Bowl.
Btw I didn't know DTs stop TEs . I guess U learn things everyday. If your saying he keeps the Lbers clean and allows the Lbers to roam freely to cover the TEs then u might have something there but I believe that has more to do with stopping opposing teams running games. Btw we also lost Shaq and Jordon Phillips why didn't u mention this guys also.
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51 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
He isn't a free agent. He's a hypothesized cap casualty
Dude, how many games did we win last season?
Where did our defense rank?
How much cap money does one incur?
When one signs FA, does one pay fairly? Or does one Overpay?
What other needs does the team have, besides DL?
Lastly, You're Silly.
Did u see what KC did to there D after they lost in 2018 to the Pats. They didn't sit back and relax off there success from the previous season. They went out and made the necessary moves to get them to the next level. We should do the same. The players we brought in last off-season were subpar at best and none of them earned there money. Hughes has been in decline since his great yr in 2018 and I expect him to even decline more this coming season. Star is coming off a full yr off who knows what kind of decline we will see from him at the age of 31. Last of all your very silly for thinking I'm silly.
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3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
Don’t tell me, let me guess..., you do Madden and fantasy, and can no longer differentiate those things from reality, right?
Go Bills!!!
So instead of giving a reasonable rebuttal to what I was saying u rather try to insult and be humerous. There's nothing Madden about what I was saying. I gurantee we cut at least 3 of them. Beane signed these guys with easy outs from there contracts with little to no cap hit when it comes to Jefferson, Addison and Butler.
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7 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:
If we could get rid of Star’s contract then I’d say absolutely
I wouldn't stop there we need to blow up this line especially from the edges. I would cut Jefferson, Hughes, Addison and Butler as well as Star. This opens up nearly 35 mil in cap space. None of these guys have earned there money. Hughes is a great leader on this team i would offer him a pay cut to stay.
Opening this cap space allows us to go after players like JJ Watt, Trey Hendrickson, Haason Reddick, Yannick Ngakoue & Shaq Barrett if he's available. Any combination of these 2 would be a massive upgrade over those other players that we cut.
The only guys I would keep are Epenesa, Oliver, Phillips and Zimmer. There's a ton of good players in free agency on the Defensive side of the ball. We can't miss on a opportunity to reload on Defense.
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On 2/13/2021 at 7:07 PM, GunnerBill said:
Yea I might go a tad more on the backs because even in some of the plays on that cover 1 video that they put on the line there are holes there, however, fleeting and the reason they close so fast is not just the line not holding up but also the backs not having the burst. I'd definitely go run blocking #1, the backs #2 and scheme #3 in my order of blame.
So in a way our Running gm was like a microwavable pizza . The toppings , ingredients and dough all almost as bad as each other. Lol.
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16 hours ago, PonyBoy said:
Stressed out at work, get tested everyday to do it, have to wear a mask everywhere, can't travel to see family and friends due to 2 week quarantine, other than that, how are you doing??? Thanks for asking. Go Bills! 😄
Keep your head up buddy, no doubt we're living in tough times but once we get threw this we won't take our freedoms for granted and life will be much better for it.
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8 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:
Bills cannot be afraid of signing guys who get cut, Fournette got cut and we went with Moss and Singletary. Singletary has no business being a starting RB, KC used the same defence tonight that they used against us. The difference is Brady could hand off to Jones & Fournette
💯%. The refs also called the clutching , grabbing & rerouting the Chiefs were allowed to do vs the Bills.
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32 minutes ago, Utah John said:
The Chiefs O line which is usually quite good was terrible because it was reshuffled when Fisher got hurt against the Bills. The Chiefs with their regular O line would have been a far more formidable opponent. Mahomes isn't superman -- he needs reasonable protection to be effective. All that blitzing that TB did would have left them exposed to Mahomes' passing and Kelce's quick moves to get open, if Mahomes had just had a little more time.
The question is, would the Bills, who had their entire team intact including a good O line, have been more effective against TB than the Chiefs, with their terrible O line, were today? I have to figure, yes.
Also, the refs decided to penalize the Chiefs' DBs for doing to the Bucs exactly what they did to the Bills' receivers. Holding, hitting them downfield, etc. Diggs struggled to get open and that's just because the Chiefs were, essentially, cheating. I think the Bills passing game, with their good O line, would have been very effective against TB's defense, which wasn't cheating.
Could the Bills D have stopped the Bucs offense? Well, no, no one can the way they're playing. But the Bills would have been facing mere mortals instead of Marvel characters like Tyreek Hill. And so the Bills D would have kept us in the game.
There is NO WAY TB would blow out the Bills like they did the Chiefs.
The inconsistent officiating is the most fustrating thing about yesterday gm as opposed to when the Bills played the Chiefs.
One can only wonder is this done by purpose or not. Tony Romo was talking about the Chiefs holding as if it was known thing if that's the case the refs should call as they see it . To me inconsistencies like this are done by purpose the NFL fully knows what teams want to do . They also want to steer the story lines in there favor.
I believe if the Bills are too ever win a Superbowl were gonna have to be heads and shoulders better then our opponents in the playoffs . We need a difference making running back and we also need to blow up our edges on our Defense. I would cut Hughes, Jefferson, Star , Addison & Butler these guys collectively make over 35mil per season and there not worth it.
Build around Phillips and Oliver at the tackle spots. Get us some speed rushers. We need a 3rd down specialist to rotate with Epenesa on the left side and we need speed to power guy at the RE .
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It really depends on how much Mcd respects the Bucs. If he puts out the same type of game plan as he did vs the Chiefs we would of gotten blasted.
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8 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:
They traded a 1st and 3rd to move up in the 1st and got a 5th back as well. It didn’t set the franchise back. I’d say it was pretty reasonable to move up from 22 to 16.
I don’t understand the issue with drafting the player with elite physical traits? I mean people routinely have been bashing Beane for not being aggressive enough and taking players with elite traits, but when he does it and it doesn’t work it was dumb to draft a player with elite traits?
Which one do we want people? Because we can’t flip flop what we B word and moan about.
The problem is that yr was very strong yr for Lbers in the draft. I loved Darius Leonard and Fred Warner they both were there in 2nd and 3rd rds . We made a massive mistake trading up for Edmunds just so we can move him to a position that doesn't showcase his talents.
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Anyone see Haason Reddick this yr he was moved bk to his natural position on the outside and was dominitate with 12.5 sacks on the yr. He was considered a massive bust before this season.
Edmunds needs to move outside were his skills will be on full display . I definitely would like to also see him play with more intensity.
Ed Oliver is also playing in the wrong spot he needs to be in a attacking role as a 3 tech.
I just don't understand why McBeane drafts these guys high then they want to move them away from the positions that got these players drafted highly to begin with. Same thing is happening with Epenesa now he's better suited for LE and we got him on the right side.
Teams usually move players drafted in the latter rounds to new positions not at the top of the draft. These guys haven't played up to there potential and the blame mainly falls on Mcd & Frasier for getting to cute.
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On 6/15/2020 at 2:36 AM, GreggTX said:
This is to predict the performance of each unit in 2020 based on the current roster.The DL and QB units were particularly tough to predict and could end up much better.
QB: C
RB: B
TE: C-
WR: A
OL:C-
CB: B- (After White, the rest is just average)
S: A
LB: C+ (Not as good as advertised, but not bad either)
DL: C (Tough to predict how Oliver, Phillips and Epenesa will perform)
ST: C+
LBers are a A at least.
Corners A also can't deny the depth
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On 7/19/2019 at 1:59 AM, Mr. WEO said:
Not lately. Seahawks haven't had a top 10 D (scoring or yards) for the past 2 years. In 2017, Wilson scored 37 of the team's 38 TDs (and STILL didn't win the MVP).
Other than perhaps Brady and Rodgers, Wilson has the best vision in the game. He's very smart, freakishly athletic and has a big arm.
That's the guy I want Allen to be. Not rock-head Cam Newton.
I agree with u whole heartedly but if we want Allen to be like anyone why not go for Aaron Rodgers with legs.
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On 6/13/2019 at 7:44 PM, noacls said:
Edmunds got pushed around quite a bit last year, that goes with his misdiagnosing plays and taking bad angles. I know he is young but lack of instincts was his knock in college. He has a long way to go especially with the seasons Leonard, VanderEsch, and Warner had. I hope he turns out.
This is true but he was 20yrs old and was making the calls for #2 ranked defense on the field that took massive responsibility. I'm guessing he was playing with his head on a swivel. He did seem to get better in the latter part of the season and I fully expect him to be much better in yr2
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I say he gets under 6
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Bears #24, 49ers #20 & Bills #16 are ranked way to far bk plus the Dolphins are #12 . Let's just say I don't respect there rankings or opinions.
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23 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:
For the longest time there has been a debate with my friends about who the greatest Defensive End was during the time we started watching football in the late 80’s and into the 90’s.
Back then we thought we had the best DE in the NFL in Bruce Smith. Others considered Reggie White, from Philly, at the time to be the best.
Now that we have the benefit of hindsight, the question is...who was really better?
Statistically there really isn’t much difference. Reggie played 15 seasons with 198 sacks. Bruce played 17 with 200 sacks. Of course, Bruce is the all-time leader. Both men should be considered toward as the best DE’s ever.
I hate to say it, but I’m going to give the edge to Reggie. I think he was a much better leader and impacted the game more than Bruce did.
For many years, I would argue in favor Bruce but one game made me change my mind. What sealed the deal for me was in a 1996 playoff game. Bruce had the flu and was questionable to play. This happens quite a bit in the NFL and players usually play through sickness. So I was really shocked when he missed the game. Pittsburgh scored 40 points so the team definitely could’ve used Bruce.
I immediately thought of the Thanksgiving game against Dallas where Reggie played with a severely injured arm. He should have missed several weeks but he played through it. Thinking of that made me say “It’s official, Reggie is better.”
As an adult, I can see the flawed logic there, but forgetting that incident, it doesn’t change my answer. Bruce was fantastic, but I think Reggie was the greatest of all-time.
I dont know if any one answered this yet but Reg played LE and faced much weaker comp vs RTs while Bruce played the 5 tech RE vs LTs. Basically Bruce played against much harder comp vs elite tackles while playing a position 5tech that really doesn't equate to monster numbers he put up. Bruce should be way more respected based on these facts . I'm talking about respect from the media but I guess playing in a market like Buffalo hurt him in that manner.
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On 6/5/2019 at 8:34 PM, whatdrought said:
I'd send a third for him.
Williams - Dawkins - Morse - Spain - Ford
looks good to me.
How bout
Williams - Dawkins- Morse- Ford- Nsekhe
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On 5/9/2019 at 4:17 PM, TigerJ said:
He's got a couple of vacant roster spots. Is there a veteran free agent really worth bringing on board at this point, or does he look for somebody else to fill a spot? Is there anything out there at this point that isn't garbage?
I say stand pat and see what Shaq, Murphy & Eli have to offer. With the addition of Oliver it should open things up for left DE.
On 5/10/2019 at 12:01 PM, GreggTX said:We go with Murphy/Shaq at LE and Hughes/Harold at RE. Darryl Johnson on the PS. That's my guess. Next year they go all in for both DE positions.
Why both ends Hughes is one of the best in the league we can at least franchise him and if we don't like his price that he's demanding we can at least trade him. If we can sign 36yr old RBS we can keep 31yr old DEs . Especially if Hughes has the type of yr he just had.
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16 hours ago, Rc2catch said:
I would like to see 2500-3000 yards and 15 tds
Josh will probably run a lot of those in as opposed to throw from inside the 5 cause well he’s a monster in that area of the field.
I’d prefer less than 15 ints.
I think those are rookie stats. We need to see a leap to at least 3500 plus yds passing 26-30 td passes. We don't get these types of passing numbers in his 2nd yr then that's alarming.
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Bradbury knew the system also . He was drafted when Mcd was there . Hindsight is 20/20 your right. But I called Norman being useless when we signed him.