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On 4/2/2021 at 6:33 PM, BADOLBILZ said:
I agree, so long as that OL projects as a future LT. And Eichenberg fits that bill. He would probably end up as the teams LT before his rookie deal ran out. Everyone assumes that Dawkins will just man the spot for 10 years without drop-off but every good LT isn't Jason Peters. If they get 6-7 good LT years out of Dawkins that would be great and then in steps a guy like Eichenberg who probably has the frame to hold the position down until about the same age at least. In the meantime Josh Allen has a lot of talent in front of him.
Jenkins is a bit too Cody Ford-esque for me.......he's a better RT prospect but like Ford I don't think he has LT flexibility and he plays out of control at times and likes to tackle defenders and take unnecessary shots at them which exposes the team to killer penalties(like the critical personal foul that Ford drew in the Houston playoff game).
I like the unnecessary shots . It worked for Jensen from the Bucs that's a nasty dude right there. That early penalty he got Chris Jones to do was big it extended the drive and lead to a TD.
Yea I see what your saying with the penalties but there be some going the other way at times in retaliation. I love me some nasty lineman .
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On 4/1/2021 at 10:16 PM, DrDawkinstein said:
JOK to Giants at #15
Etieene to the Jets at #23
Najee Harris to the Steelers at #24
30. Buffalo Bills
Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami
The top two running backs are off the board, and it's a little early for Javonte Williams (North Carolina). So why not inject some life into a middle-of-the-road pass rush instead -- especially with Jerry Hughes turning 33 before the season. Phillips had 8.0 sacks and 15.5 tackles for loss in 2020.
61. Buffalo Bills
Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington
The Bills finally halt Onwuzurike's slide down the board. He is my No. 35 prospect, but there aren't many teams searching for a defensive tackle right now. And while Buffalo might have preferred a running back, tight end or offensive tackle, Onwuzurike is sudden and creates havoc. He could slide in next to Ed Oliver.
How's that old saying , U can never have enough CBs no no no it's DTs .😂
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38 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
Don’t deserve the money good luck with taking money off players cause you feel he didn’t deserve his contract this isn’t college where you can pull a scholarship and give it to someone else little things like agents and lawyers and the CBA get in the way of these things and yes he is a major bust Seattle’s defense was atrocious and he was a major part of it
Glad you disagree cause KC has zero depth like none and if a top end starter goes down on their lines they have no one behind them to keep the likes of Mr Bosa or Mr Miller from wreaking havoc on their 500 million dollar investment
Errnnnt! Lol. There's something called the salary cap in the NFL have u heard about it ? U can add and drop players as u please. This ain't NBA OR MLB where the entire contract is gauranteed.
44 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:Don’t deserve the money good luck with taking money off players cause you feel he didn’t deserve his contract this isn’t college where you can pull a scholarship and give it to someone else little things like agents and lawyers and the CBA get in the way of these things and yes he is a major bust Seattle’s defense was atrocious and he was a major part of it
Glad you disagree cause KC has zero depth like none and if a top end starter goes down on their lines they have no one behind them to keep the likes of Mr Bosa or Mr Miller from wreaking havoc on their 500 million dollar investment
K.C also tore our azz up twice last yr. Go read a book. I got one for u it's called NFL for dummies , lol.
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3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
So you do understand cutting Addison, Butler, and Star - would not have freed up enough to even sign Lawson right.
To free up another nearly 10 million on top of the 3 DL you got rid of means eliminating Milano, Mongo, and perhaps Williams as their combined salary for the year would barely exceed Tomlinson and Obada.
Then you would still need a guard and a LB and perhaps a RT if Williams goes. So you are replacing 3 starting level players with low price back ups to balance out the cost.
So in the end were you willing to trade: Star, Addison, Butler, Milano, Mongo, and Williams for Lawson, Tomlinson, Obada, and 3 starting holes at RT, RG, and OLB? I don’t think I would make that trade.
It is easy to say just restructure Diggs and Dawkins, but are you smart enough to understand why Beane is hesitant to do that? He we go as we try to explain it again. The CAP for next year is still a moving target. Depending upon the final agreement they could cut anywhere from 0 - 35 million off from the final number because of the COVID loss - it will depend upon the final payment agreement for the 17th game. If the CAP ends up at 190 million for next year after the adjustments - we are already tight against the CAP and not enough players signed. If we restructure- we are pushing even more money into a year we are tight and we have multiple big contracts to begin to put into play (Josh and Tre’s 5th year options and their new deals).
So I love your thoughts - it just does not add up and makes it harder to keep the team together and compete in future years.
The Cap is not something to be afraid of, but it is something to be mindful of. If you decide this is the year to go all in and throw everything at it - then next year you start to lose significant talent and people like you get all upset because we do not have a plan. Beane has a plan and is moving ahead to keep what is a greatly talented team together and to make continued improvements as they work their way forward.
Addison post June 1st -8.2 mil
Butler -6.8mil
Star- 4.7 mil
Lawson -11mil cap hit
Tomlinson - 6 Mil cap hit
Obada - 2 Mil cap hit
I went over all these players deals so I know what I'm taking about.
Lawson right now is counting 14+ mil cap hit for the Jets but we could of structured it to count 11 mil cap hit for the Bills
Tomlinson cap hit is at 6mil for 2021 that's very fair deal for Vikings.
Obada signed a 1yr deal worth 2.15mil it's not up on Spotrac yet but it's gonna count at most the whole 2.15mil if not less.
Next season with Allen and Edmunds our cap is at 186 mil . But Star is costing us 4.5mil and Addison 2mil so essentially were at 180 as of now for 2022 . Klien can be cut and he saves 5.2mil as well as Morse at 8 that brings us down to 167mil . Now that would go up because we have Lawson and Tomlinson counting for another 20mil combined so that would bring us up to 188mil.
So based on my projections we are under the cap with flexibility to restructure numerous amounts of deals if the cap doesn't go up. Plus we still have money left over from this season that can be rolled over. So yes we could of signed all our guys bk and got Lawson & Tomlinson and everyone else we signed as well.
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3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:
I didn’t really see too many great Dline players in free agency this year. There were some good ones but I didn’t really see any game changers that switched teams. Shaq Barrett and Leonard Williams resigned with their teams.
Carl Lawson and Dupree were good players but not elite difference makers. Trey Hendrickson had a breakout year but wasn’t really doing much until a contract year. The rest of the market weren’t really guys I would break the bank for. Clowny and DaQuan Jones are still players out on the market that can play a role and be had much cheaper.
I suspect McBeane will go out on the market for one more vet to add to the mix and draft an Edge at pick 30. There just wasn’t a free agent or trade target that in my opinion made sense.
It's odd to even have that many guys available . Edge players usually get tagged. U forgot to mention Judon & Watt also. Some of these guys have elite capabilities Lawson was 4 th in the NFL in QB hits and hurries and he's on a bad team. How often did he get a chance to tee off on the opposing QBs?
3 hours ago, NewEra said:You’re exaggerating. I disagree with pretty much everything you say here.
they lost 38-9 because they were starting 5 backup OL in the super bowl. Losing fisher in the AFCCG wrecked a great patchwork job the chiefs had going on. Their OL is going to be much better this season because they’ll actually have starters playing.
seattles D stunk in the first half of the year but they straightened it out and played solid after our game. I believe they had the lowest PPG against in the league after we blew them out. Reed isn’t the reason that they were bad to start the year. He’s a good player.
the bills could have restructured dawkins, Diggs and poyer to get the money to sign a pass rusher. They could’ve made room.
If they didn’t want to go all in and mortgage the future by restructuring everyone this year, Beane could’ve cut Addison and not signed Sanders. That would’ve gotten us 10 mill. Then restructure one player and draft a WR in rd 1, 2 or 3. There will be some good options that might not be as good as Sanders, yet, but they could help our offense offset the loss of Brown. I feel that would’ve been our best option tbh.
He also could have cut Addison and and signed reddick. McD could’ve got pressure in creative ways with him in the fold.
The point is, KC realizes their weakness and attacks them head on, fixing them. They needed a pass rusher 2 years ago and get their man in Frank Clark. Then they win the SB. We just stay the course with what we have and make minor moves. I’m not saying what Beane is doing is wrong.....it might very well win us a super bowl. There may still be some great additions in free agency. I believe in Beane. I just would’ve liked to see him add a better pass rusher in a loaded FA class, than Obada (who I have high hopes for). Especially when looking at the DE class and that it probably won’t yield us an instant impact pass rusher.
We could signed Obada and Lawson. Obada only got 2 mil.
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43 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
They just lost 38-9 in the Super Bowl and it could have been even worse then that...Jarren Reed was a bust in Seattle you realize he was part of a defense Josh lit up for 44? And where exactly where the Bills going to get the money for these transactions? They where right against the cap to begin with its easy to say hey let’s go sign a bunch of guys but when you see the money they signed for where where the Bills going to get it and they still have the draft and the post June 1st cuts
First off I didn't mention Reed at all so I don't know remarking towards . But since u brought him up he's not bust he has 16.5 sks the last 2 yrs combined and he should flourish next to Jones & Clark there gonna be tough to handle.
Secondly we could of gotten the money by making cuts to players that don't deserve the money there getting Addison and Butler would of freed up 13mil combined Instead 3plus they restructured for that 10 mil could of landed us Carl Lawson instead . Lawson is a huge upgrade over Addison and we shouldn't be paying Butler 5mil to be a bkup DT . We could of signed a vet for 2 mil instead . I like the Obada signing we could of still gotten him . Plus there's more money we could free up by restructuring Dawkins and Diggs . You seriously buying that total bullcrap about the cap it's a blanking joke. Tomlinson got 2yrs 22 mil from the Vikings u think he wouldn't rather be in Buffalo? Cut Star u got half his money right there.
The cap can be turned and twisted to do what u please with it. We could of rebuilt this DLine I don't want to hear the excuses. Btw its not selling your future either because the cap is gonna go up drastically in the coming yrs. Please don't give me that mess that these players won't sign with Buffalo because they will Lawson and Tomlinson went to bad teams .
Talk about where's the money gonna come from what a jk the money is tied up in this putrid Dline . We have over 40 mil in spending going to the line in 21 and in 20 we spent over 50. These guys are part of the reason we didn't win a title this yr but most of u got your heads to up your u know what not seeing the big picture.
Here's what my new line would of looked like.
RE - Hughes, Obada, Epenesa
DT1 - Tomlinson, Phillips
DT3 - Oliver, Zimmer, Obada
LE- Lawson , Epenesa, Johnson
Would u trade Addison, Butler and Star for Lawson, Tomlinson & Obada ? Because I know I would .
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7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
He’s a first round bust that’s why he’s gone no loss at all he barely cracks PFFs top 90
Yeh as we saw what happened in the super bowl when their two starters got hurt at tackle and they had no one behind them they where blown out
They also got bullied up the middle is was a complete domination. That also explains the reason they signed Thuney for big money.
The Chiefs are doing what they did in 2018 after losing to the Pats in the playoffs they pretty much blew up there Dline outside of Jones now there doing they exact thing with there Oline. Chiefs don't wait around for something to happen they got out and fix there problems. I believe there line will be much better in 2021 season.
The Bills on the other hand have leaned towards continuity and building depth let's see if this works out for us. I would rather of had us blow up our Dline outside of a few guys like Oliver, Epenesa and Phillips. Let's face it this Dline we have is not Super bowl caliber I just wish McBeane could of seen it this way. This yr was the best yr I ever seen for Dlineman in free agency next yr there won't be half the guys available.
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9 hours ago, Seoulofstone said:
I did a quick search but couldn't find this in a thread title.
Came across this just now. Do you like any of these designs?
https://roughingthepasser.football/2021/03/24/buffalo-bills-concept-helmets/
I don't like any of these helmets but I would love to see the 90s unis brought bk for couple gms a yr if not permanently.
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5 hours ago, HappyDays said:
KC just lost their starting LT and RT. In exchange they got a guard and a DT. They aren't "really going for it." Their moves at best amount to them treading water too. I think the Bills can beat them right now if Allen plays better and we have a better defensive game plan. Yeah pass rush would have helped us beat them, but so would a game plan that doesn't leave Kelce wide open within half a second. Jarran Reed wouldn't have made a difference in the AFC Championship last year. Neither would any pass rusher we could have conceivably signed this offseason. We need to figure out how to cover TEs and add some speed on offense in the draft.
The Chiefs had talks recently with Russell Okung I guess there just waiting for him to be 100% healthy before they sign him . There's also the draft were there's over 20 Olineman projected to go in top 3rds . Andy Reid has a plan I'm thinking when it's all said and done there weakness last season will be a strength this coming yr.
The Bills and Chiefs have 2 different philosophies of building as KC leans more towards the top heavy approach and the Bills like to build there team with depth in mind. The problem with the way we build is when u get in deep playoffs the team across from u like the Chiefs will beat u with more talented players like we seen last season. Building for depth will get u a ton of victories in regular season but won't get u where you want to be the Superbowl unless u have some difference making talent .
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I rather trade bk with the Broncos
Give up 1st #30
Get 2nd- #40 & 3rd - 71st
Then trade bk up into 2nd rd with Colts
Give up Den 3rd -71st & both 5ths and 4th next yr.
That leaves us with
2nd #40- RB Ettiene
2nd#54 - DE Perkins
2nd#60 - CB Melifonwu
3rd#93 - DT1 Mcneil
Or
2nd #40 - RB Williams
2nd # 54- Edge Ossai
2nd #60- BN/S Naserildean
3rd#93- DT1 Shelvin
I like the trade bk but consolidate method this gives us plenty options in the 2nd rd . I realize that some of these guys won't be where i got them being selected but u never know who else can be in this spots . I've seen multiple mocks that have JOK in the 2nd rd as well as these RBs . Trade bk and go BPA .
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1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:
He’s really only getting $8.5 mil. as they can get out of the deal next year. As far as a blunder, I don’t know. Half of me wanted Ngakoue, but I understand not doing it as they have Edmunds and Allen coming up. I can see Allen this summer and Edmunds getting the 5th year option as that will be cheaper. He’s making a smart decision not kicking the can.
I understand the frustration. Heck I wanted Jonnu Smith, one of the Star DE’s, but then again I also hate using a credit card.
They already used the credit card .
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2 hours ago, delirious said:
You did not convince me enough to move my support away from Creed Humphrey or Landon Dickerson at pick 30.
I feel like if I were to take a chance on one of these edges, it's be Jalen Phillips. Provided his mindset is good and I strongly feel like he won't quit again. Dude is a beast.
Doesn't the concussions concern you? I won't touch him until #60 . I want Azeez Ojulari
Measurables
Age 20, Will be 21 in June
Height: (6-foot-2 1⁄4 inches)
Weight: 249 pounds
Arm Length: 34 3/8 inches
Hand Span: 10 1⁄2 inches
40 Time: 4.60 seconds
Bench Press: 28 repsCareer Stats
Games Played: 23
Tackles: 68
Tackles For a loss: 18.5
Sacks: 15.0
Forced Fumbles: 5
Passes Defensed: 22020 Stats
Games Played: 10
Tackles: 31
Tackles For a loss: 12.5
Sacks: 9.5
Forced Fumbles: 4
Passes Defensed: 2Quick Summary
Best: Athleticism, first step, length, versatility, mental processing
Worst: Technique, consistency
Projection: A starting EDGE with scheme versatility.-
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8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Not only is he raw but he turns 23 in December. I would be all about taking a chance on him somewhere but not in the first round.
Exactly what I was thinking yes he's a physical freak but age and lack of production would only make me comfortable taking him at the end of the 2nd rd at pk #60. I think that's his best value for us.
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9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
reason:
best pure Athlete in the Draft IMO. Size Speed off the charts. He will be at 30 because of the limited games (20). Former Basketball player but very raw in football. Can be perfect for a team that can bring him along slowly and I think the Bills can afford that. If he had more games he would not make it out of the top 10.
they did it with QB and MLB. Now Beane goes the same model at the DE of the future. I have him graded as the 35th best player in the draft.
will have to add maybe 10 pounds as a 4-3 DE but has the frame to do that. Rookie season a spot rusher while learning. Ceiling it super high and if developed properly I think by year 3 people will put him in the elite DE talk.
i really just wish he didn’t run this 40 though as now may go earlier than I was hoping. Before this 40 he was going to be there at 30. Now I am sure there are teams thinking the same let’s take him at 22 and see what we can develop with that natural god given talent.
Tarzan can swing from tree but Tarzan no play football in NFL. 😂
Foreal though he's too light in the behind for my liking u got to have tree trunks for legs to play DE and also a big round behind. I'm serious. He's body type is Maybinish! These kinds of players are scary ntm he didn't do much on the college level as far as putting up stats. I'll pass on him.
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Brieda is a solid addition to this team and can come in an challenge Singletary for playing time right away.
Last season he didn't look anything like he did in SF but there can be many reasons for this maybe he was still hurt maybe he didn't fit the scheme . Chan Gailey runs mainly man power so that can be the problem.
The Bills run basically a version of the 49ers Stretch Zone so Brieda is a great fit to our scheme mof he's a much better fit then anyone else on our roster as of right now. Hopefully he can finally stay healthy and let's hope that last yr was just a bad situation for him and not him being zapped of his atlheticm because of his previous injury history.
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4 hours ago, Success said:
Thank; so, let's say they draft a DE in an early round (which I'd almost expect) - do you think they'd keep 5 on the roster, and just inactivate Hughes or Addison on gameday?
Maybe it's possible I mean they did keep Murphy and his 9mil salary inactive most of last season.
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8 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said:
The following two names were not on the poll of "what pass rusher do you want" (I voted for Dunlap). But I trust Bills to make judgments on two potentially great adds:
1. Ryan Kerrigan - Bills have to judge how much he has left in the tank, but if he has a fair amount he could be a real difference maker. Seems like a great fit.
2. Aldon Smith -- still young (30, may have turned 31), Smith could make a difference for years. He is a chiseled 285 lbs, one of the best pure pass rushers of the last decade and stout against the run. If you read about his turnaround, it is quite a story. Personally, I believe in redemption. But so, so often, it is not real. I trust our front office to do the diligence to figure it out with Smith. If they decide to sign him, I would be wildly supportive. If they decided "do not touch" I would fully understand. But I think Aldon is a much better risk than a (*^*&%^$^#like Sammy Watkins - at least Smith was once great. Played all 16 last year.
Did anyone of these guys play for or have gone to Carolina in the last 4 months ? If they did they have a great chance to be a Bill. Lol
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54 minutes ago, IronyAbounds said:
No, this isn't a post about the Sabres, per se, it is the cautionary tale for the Bills. As the Sabres' horrendous season starkly demonstrates, improvement and optimistic signs of growth in one season do automatically translate to continued improvement and growth in the next. Everyone expected the Sabres to be better this year, but as the article points out a multitude of factors, some random, others not, obliterated the hoped for playoff push. Similarly, the reasonable expectation is that the Bills will be better this year and could easily be Super Bowl contenders. Yet, all it might take is a single injury (e.g., Allen) and the best laid plans are demolished. Covid could also continue to have some effect on the season. You always have to have an eye on the future in the NFL or any sport, but it is also important to seize every opportunity to win now (which is why the KC loss was hard to stomach). It's a difficult balancing act, and so far Beane seems to have done a good job. I'm very hopeful for 2021, but fingers crossed that the Sabres' experience won't be repeated by the Bills.
I agree u can't expect 1 season to correlate with the next we've seen plenty of teams peak over the years only to fall on there faces the next. Eagles, Rams, Falcons, Jags, Bears, Vikings are just a few examples of this over the last few yrs.
What separates the Bills I believe is #1 They have a legitimate Elite franchise QB in Josh Allen and #2 The front office and Head Coach don't go to work everyday thinking about the previous success of 2020 season. They'll leave that to all or most of the people on these boards to talk about. With that being said the Bills might not go 13-3 next season but they might be a better team even with 11 wins. Even if they don't win as much they can still win the Superbowl. We just seen a 11 win team in Bucs do just that. We even seen some 9-7 teams win it all .
The answer to all this though is can the Bills make the adjustments to the counter adjustments others team will make against us.
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1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:
Yes. Obada listed as a De but seems like hes done some good work at the 3tech. Short is a bigger more prototypical 1tech more like Starr i believe. I think the injury history is a major concern for the guy. Wouldnt be shocked to see us shore up the 1tech with a mid rounder this year.
Short is closer to Oliver size then Star.
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3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
Just reading your intent has me quite sure.
So u disagree with my content? We didn't make a mistake by signing Addison, Butler and Jefferson . We don't have the highest paid DLINE in the NFL that's not getting it done without applying additional pressure by sending blitzes. I'm was wrong your right buddy.
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40 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:
I am so happy you don’t make decisions for the Bills, I guess after all there is a god...
U sure about that? How do u know I won't do a great job. I bet I'll be better then you.
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1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:
You can’t have it both ways, our Front office is top notch league wide in player acquisition over the last three years, in fact there was a thread in the past month ish that showed the rankings of all teams on this, we are the only team that was top three in every category and tops overall.
Folk gotta get over their misguided expectations of perfection, it is just never ever going to happen, that you can bank on that.
U got to be kidding me expecting they do some reconstruction do the DLINE is not asking for perfection. I can come up with way more if we want to get into perfection for example trading up for Cody Ford instead of taking DK Metcalf but I'm not expecting perfection . What I am expecting is when there's a weakness that needs to be corrected as in our vastly overpaid DLINE then they do something about it.
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9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Apparently every team's GM is supposed to only make amazing moves? I mean realistically, no team ever makes 100% good moves, there are always some that don't work out properly. He has made far more good ones than bad ones...as can be seen by this team making the playoffs 3 times in 4 years following a 17 year drought, winning the AFC East for the first time in 25 years and winning a playoff game for the first time in 25 years and then making it to the AFC Championship game in Allen's 3rd year. We are only just getting started on this run...relax a little and enjoy it...
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying fire these guys and I know no gm is perfect but that doesn't give him a pass for doubling down on the most expensive Dline in the NFL for minimum results.
McBeane has done a great job since they've been with the Bills but that doesn't give them a complete pass from criticism. I'm just very disappointed in the lack of movement on the DLINE .
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1 minute ago, Brennan Huff said:
Pass rush is a glaring need IMO. People don’t want to hear it I guess 🤷🏻♂️U can't critize Beane here he's the teflon Don can't do no wrong. Don't get me wrong I love Beane but he's made some awful investments in this Dline.
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Who is the one player you DON’T want the Bills to draft @30
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Prepare to be letdown then. To be honest this is not one of my favorite drafts.