NoHuddleKelly12

Plenty of previous regimes/HC's had their shot at this since Wade Phillips in '99, and whiffed so bad that by default McD has bought himself an extra few years. I don't think anybody can argue that McD was able to get the season turned around after the Chargers game (winning a tough one on the road in KC the following week), admitting to his locker room that what he'd tried hadn't worked, and got a bunch of no talents to overachieve beyond their pay grades--also a big reason why Kyle Williams decided to come back for one more run after buying in, and he's had the hindsight/benefit of living through truly awful coaching when he's seen it during his career, no? At least McD has the kahonies to admit when he's gotten something wrong, and not stick with such a bad decision over the course of a whole season, just to try to save his own ego. Peterman became a Thursday All-American during the off-season: full-go when everyone else was jogging, and that had even a bunch of posters on these boards saying it was the right call to say he'd won an open competition and save Allen for after the brutal opening stretch of games. Now that we know different, it's not like McD hasn't owned it--he immediately (again) tried to rectify the situation. He's in year 2 of his first HC gig, and the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. Let's see what happens after adjustments have been made going into the next couple weeks. Much of the roster's dumpster fire that happened in the off-season I'm sure was not part of what he wanted either.

For Vontae's response in the locker room when told that his 1st half was unacceptable... https://giphy.com/gifs/rWbIF9rfkV4NW

Definitely the toughness and no-quit attitude (unlike he who will not be named but decided that one half of ball should equal one whole game check) parts, and howitzer for an arm; as for the overall stats, Kelly threw 3 TD's that day, but also had the benefit of being a 26 yr old rookie who'd just left the USFL after throwing for ridiculous yardage and TD's 2 straight years--so had a ton more reps coming in. At the end of the day, we should be so lucky if JA approaches what JK gave this franchise for 10 years. But it's the most optimistic I've felt about the Bills' QB position since Flutie Flakes were on the shelf. I still have an unopened box, maybe I'll break the seal if Allen becomes the real deal.

And really, could he face any stiffer D competition than what he's about to walk into next week in Minnesota?? If he survives that rogues' shooting gallery upright behind the current O-line, doesn't lose his mind or throw a half dozen picks, his probability meter for future of this franchise will take off at "transwarp" speed (did I just out myself as an irredeemable Trekkie nerd?) Sadly, also true

Good point--Kelly himself said he could never get ready to start a game without tossing his cookies as a necessary "nerves" pregame ritual--I bet the only times he didn't do that were the last 3 of the SB's (played decent enough to have won XXV), lol.

All true; however, when it does happen, and it clicks (e.g., Mahomes telling Peter King that Alex Smith's willingness to mentor/share his knowledge of what it takes to make it in the league being absolutely the foundation for Mahomes' blowing up so far this year) it absolutely gives the young pup a leg up as opposed to having to reinvent the wheel for himself through trial and error on the fly only.

Didn’t think the Patsies would be looking up at Miami this week too, so there’s that. ?

I understand your point, but it’s also hard to argue with the tale of 2 very different halves. Even the last SB winning Eagles featured their HC Pederson calling all the offensive plays on game days I believe, and it didn’t make him have too much on his plate

For a coordinator, is there really ever any coming back from something like this? At least for the team on which it happens? This was Leslie’s “peterman” moment where he can’t finish his only job because of a performance issue...and the change was marked just as with JA coming in.

Just an overall unreal turn of events...these first rough weeks along with Davis acting like a hotheaded spoiled quitter that he is, will either break the spirit of the team beyond redemption for the rest of this season until massive roster overhauling can commence with the 10 draft picks and est. 70 million in cap space upcoming, or it will absolutely create a moment that we can look back on where new leadership was forged (Allen & other hungry go-getters) within this team and created an overachieving no quit group the rest of the way. I honestly can’t even hazard a guess at this point which way we will go

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Wow signs of life!!!

Does Leslie survive the week? Coordinators always on the chopping block 1st

I was going to let stand a post that this team could rally around JA, show us some pride and pull off an epic upset, but that would be too much nonsense to keep in print, so instead I’ll say I just want to see some semblance of self respect in the 2nd half from these guys, or is that too much to ask too?

That was a great game—he outdueled Young who had a fantastic game himself.

#14 was about as effective as the “lookout here they come” blocking scheme employed by Juan Castillo last week (debuted during the Cinci Bungles preseason tilt orig); I hear that the best part about it is the OLine suffers less hammy pulls over the course of a season

Nervous optimism—shoutout for the Gifs thread started by YoloinOhio which about summed it up nicely.

Would love this outcome, esp. no picks to go along with yardage that TT could only dream of

Maybe a desperate gambit to generate something, anything in the way of defensive improvement to help the team be more competitive overall by taking some pressure off of the offense, and thus you know, help Allen—oh shoot, I tried but looking back on my effort here I’ve got nothing in the way of a good explanation for their practice squad pickup...you are all dumber now for having read this ?

Kyle Williams

It always starts up front in the trenches—no hogs that can play = no sustainable success over the course of a season. When the Bills were actually good they also had all-pros up front. If Jerry Rice were out there last week I doubt there would’ve been enough time in letting a play develop, to feed him more than once or twice, at least that’s how it seemed.

I wonder how much of that the AstroTurf contributed? Do you think the same injury happens on a grass field?

From shotgun deep no less, and he says he never doubted what he was going to do—everyone else expecting a pass, classic Marv definitely seemed to be a bit more “hands off” with that group? Of course the talent differential was night and day from the current roster construction too

We are all hoping that JA is at least the next coming of JK for our beloved franchise, if not even better; so if you are old enough to remember watching Jim play during the glory years, what play or plays do you remember most fondly from those games? In the words of one of the “Bobs” from Office Space when asked to pick which Michael Bolton song he likes best, and answers something along the lines of, “I can’t pick just one, I celebrate his entire collection,” I have to give you more than one too. As a lonely Bills fan growing up in ‘Burgh country where anything outside of rooting for the “Stillers” was considered blasphemy, the absolute highlight for me was getting on that super quiet school bus the day after JK and the Bills absolutely pounded the Steelers on 9/8/91 to the tune of 52-34 (6 tds for JK, 4 to Beebe alone, earning him the moniker of Steeler Killer) and no one said squat to me including the usual loudmouths who thought Bubby Brister was all that. Listening to the Steelers play by play team during the game was priceless—Myron Cope could barely string together intelligible sentences (I know, a low bar) his “ooomp—haas” catchphrase going crazy, and complaining about Kelly basically just playing throw and catch all over the Steeler backfield with no one seemingly offering any resistance...even Rod Woodson their defensive All-Pro had no answers that day. TD highlights from this game start at the 0:33 mark here: The other memory that stands out, well, I found a replay of it here...the dude could’ve played both ways is all I can say about that. But an example of how he always took his picks personally and tried to dish it out as good as he got whenever he had the chance:

Being a man of faith and having NFL chops are not mutually exclusive. As with anything else in life, everyone’s been given different skill sets and talent levels no matter what they do, and their spiritual side to the extent they have one or not, has nothing to do with that. See, e.g., Wentz, Reich, Rodgers, Cousins, Brees, the list goes on, for examples of men of faith also being winners between the hash marks. All I’m saying is it’s a mistake to jump on NP’s or Tebow’s faith as somehow “proving” that’s why they are not cut out for the NFL or that they have no “edge.” Instead, it’s probably what helps them deal internally much better in moving past setbacks as they happen and keep perspective.