Nelius

Why are you going on about "selective outrage"? This is unprecedented. One of the biggest, strongest dudes in the NFL just full force swung a large object at a much smaller man's unprotected head. Does that object need to be anvil shaped or something for you to take it seriously? This wasn't some hard check that the boys will laugh about later. C'mon, dude. We all just witnessed serious assault and thank god Rudolph wasn't caught in a way that would shut even armchair tough guys up.

No, really none of that is as bad as a 270 pound freak with leverage swinging a helmet at your unprotected head. Sorry dude. And also, this is after they just had a dude thrown off the team last week for threatening fans immediately after the game ended. Seems he was actually in the locker room threatening fans on his phone. And not just sort of threatening, but throwing out cryptic my gang is going to watch you and kill your family type threats. Cleveland is a dumpster fire, who the hell knows what's going on in that locker room but I sure as hell wouldn't try to defend any of it. Horrible, horrible franchise.

Wow just saw it. Kind of feel like people are taking this way too lightly. Really liked him as a player and person before tonight, but hope to god they throw him out of the ***** league and set an example. Inexcusable. A 270 pound man swinging just about anything at your head could kill you if done right, I think that might have been the most screwed up thing I've ever seen in sports. Mental health, whatever, get him out of the league. Please cite your old school examples of players swinging helmets, or any blunt objects, at other players unprotected heads.

Was going to say something but this guy pretty much covered it.

Regardless of how much he may have been in the wrong or not, blasting a player's fine on a screen like that is ridiculously absurd. So unprofessional. It reminds me of some fresh out of college sales floors I was on in the early 2000's, and those were horrible, doomed to fail organizations just like the Jets. I wonder if they let the well-behaved Jets tap a keg at 4:30 on Fridays.

Totally agree, although that still makes the kicker an extreme liability, but yeah I agree. I couldn't believe McD made that call. Was he going to clap and intensely concentrate the kick an extra few yards? Unbelievable.

Huuuuge great to see a play like that from Edmunds

He destroys everyone. He still hasn't got a sack so it's a win so far.

John Brown is a #1 wide receiver.

Landry's going to get tossed if this stays close. Can't wait.

I think I may need to take off tomorrow.

Murphy sucks.

Dude no, I couldn't disagree more sorry. I want our franchise QB to score points. Whatever it takes, I don't care how ugly this game gets. If Allen completes 32% of his passes but goes 7-2 over Baker then it's truly all that matters.

ALLEN!!!!! Are some of you from the future? What is this sorcery? I'm streaming and listening to WGR and am minutes behind some of these updates

Feels like a great time for a Baker interception. I'm anticipating at least 2 or 3.

That was absolutely incredible.

I actually think people will annoyingly jump back on the bandwagon if/when we win. We'll be 7-2 in a weird muddled AFC with another AFC notch, it's going to be hard to ignore. I'm almost liking the hate right now, it will be incredible to see the heads spin Sunday evening.

We win. I don't really care how it's done. I'll take another AFC notch, we'd be in great position. But I hope Baker melts down completely. If Allen is going to be playing clowns like him and Darnold (Rosen doesn't matter anymore) for years to come then I hope he truly gains the upper hand this weekend and proves he's in the top tier of that class, thus setting up the real argument of Allen vs. Jackson for the rest of the season and beyond. Dolphins win, Ravens lose, Steelers win. I think the Ravens are pretty much a lock but let's make the AFC even messier. A dream scenario would be Pittsburgh going on a run and taking the division, and the Bills and Raiders getting the wild cards. The Ravens are currently terrifying.

Yeah I'm following, so let them have the 6th spot. Raiders grabbing the 6th is a continuation of a best possible scenario season for the Bills. I'd rather the Raiders go on a run than the Chargers or Steelers personally. I'm clearly framing this optimistically and assuming the Bills are a 5th seed lock, but it looks so good right now.

Beat me to it couldn't agree more, especially with the current AFC jumble.

Already? The AFC is so muddled the Charges would have been legit WC contenders had they pulled it off, and they still scare me more.

Meh, it's so fun to pick on the Bills tee-hee. Just last year both the Chargers and Panthers were 6-2 at this point. Since then they've both taken a step backwards while their franchise QBs have seemingly aged and lost a step, which is definitely worse than our situation.

Except that McKenzie in motion was really messing with the Redskins which kind of negates your entire point. I think they did it every single play on that first TD drive. Yes, granted anybody could probably do it but perhaps he sells it better since he's liable to go 20 yards on a shovel pass. I think this thread is largely about McKenzie vs. Foster anyway, and I don't see how anybody can defend Foster at this point. Zay's gone, so if you move on from Foster as well then there should be room for both Duke and McKenzie. Unless of course you think that we should still just wait until next week again for Robert Foster to get his first reception of the year...

Singletary. I enjoyed the coming out party. For those keeping score he now has 7.1 yds per touch across 52 touches. Apparently the sample size was too small for some last week. I'm excited to see what he continues to do and think some are still selling him short. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he ends up spoiling the fantasy discussion and has a better game than either Chubb or Kareem Hunt next week

Check out these Cleveland alarmists acting like the Browns are some well-oiled machine. They'll FINALLY come out on all cylinders while our ho-hum inept team butt fumbles their way to 10 points or something. Get out of here, Cleveland is awful. Denver doesn't even want to win anymore but couldn't give the game away to these stooges today. Yes, Nick Chubb is worrisome, but in reality Kitchens will probably inexplicably under-utilize him while Baker throws three first half interceptions. This Browns fear is hilarious. Has anybody actually watched that dumpster fire this year?