BB@Shooter

You have officially just outdone yourself. Words can't even begin to cover it. Get back in the shed with the rest of the tools.

Finally someone got it right. Thank you.

You are starting to sound like Peterdude and 23cb, I am getting worried about you. Lol.

Have you ever put out a positive post on here? I didn't think so.

And another Allen post. Did he turn you down for a date?

Peterdude with yet another Josh Allen bash. How about talking real football for a change. You are like a broken record. Do you know what real football is? I would love to see how eaten up your guts are every time Allen scores. I bet it damn near puts you in the hospital. I can't wait until he gets some experience and playmakers. I will stop by to piss on your gravesite, as I think you would commit hari kari. Lol.

Good post.

I don't know what kind of leash management has him on. But I do know that is the only way they will win with the offensive personnel they have. If anything should get him fired is not having a better read on host offensive side of the ball. And I don't think he should be fired, as his defense is put together on a budget and performing well. He has been against Allen from day one.

So if you know about his supporting cast, why do you overlook it when you evaluate him? Why don't you actually give him credit in your hate? And if you know football like you claim, why can't you see that they are using him to manage games? Not developing him? And why aren't they trying to bring in offensive help? If he had the same weapons as the other rookies I would bet he develops faster. Yet you never bring any of this up as you just want to hammer on him. To claim different is a huge lie.

That is exactly what 26 is doing, making it his duty to cut on Allen. Could it be more obvious. The hard part about Allen is his growth will be slowed because the defense can keep the team in games. So as long as the score is close, they will eat up clock and shorten the game. Then try and win it in a close one. Allen will be asked to manage the game, not throw for 300 yards.

Good and accurate post Luka. I don't see where my post insults any more than his does. I don't get the 22 show. And Peterman has proven to be a practice player, like I said at the beginning of the year. I don't post negative about NP, as he has enough problems. If you are worried about the Bills percentage, you can Google it also. I suggested the percentage of drops wasn't being portrayed correctly. I don't care if anyone looks it up. I am pretty sure it will eviscerate Allen. The media would have pointed it out if they could get more proof against Allen as it gets readers. Not that I actually think they hate him. It is all about readership or viewers.

I wonder what the precentage of dropped passes are? Seeing as Allen throws less passes in a game, that could tell the real story. Anyone can make numbers work for them. Spewing nonsense compared to your hate filled diatribe week after week? Give me a break. I guess it all depends what part of the bandwagon you are riding that particular week. You don't sound like much of a Bills fan to me. Fans actually root for the team on the field. That includes players. Quit it, you are making sense.

Hurt his feeing? Lol. And you know Zay is open how? We're you at the games? Because on the TV they mostly don't show the receivers. And hardly show replays. So you can tell how? I think you make up crap.

Especially the trend of you knocking Allen. Keep jumping on and off the bandwagon. Watch it or you might wear out your keyboard. Typical fan who follows the media and can't think for themselves.

I think you are the one who doesn't know qbs or the game of football. Why are you switching camps so often? The only person you are fooling is yourself. Daboll isn't doing Allen any favors by making him throw short and predictable throws. I saw this at Wyoming in Allens last season, and it is a way to win games. It is not a way to develop a qb. So unknowing fans like yourself have to decide if you want wins, or develop a qb at fairly decent clip. All the other writers / media out there are talking about how the rookie qbs have no receivers, offensive line, or overall general help when reading about their problems. And before Darnold finally started playing better, a lot of the media were claiming him to be the worst out of the four. Why people on this board started forgetting about Allen having no line and no tools work with is beyond me. Nothing has changed, especially the agenda. Most of the Allen haters on here are not good Bills fans . They are mostly happy to just be on here complaining. And the far fetched theories they come up with are sad to say the least. Allen and the rest are rookies. And very few rookis get it right the first year. And watching the media and fans praise them one week like the next coming , and the following week proclaim they should never have even got drafted is comical. You all need to settle down and look at the big picture. There will be ups and downs. They have all shown it up to this point. The sample size and coaching / play calling has all been different. Same goes by the talent they are surrounded by . So no possible way you can get a fair or clear understanding from it. Or even decent feedback from it. I like to read what present and past players and staff from the Bills have to say about Allen. They usually have insider knowledge, unlike posters like yourself and the media go by.

Why do you have no clue about Allen at Wyoming? He had two 8 win seasons and in his first year got a crappy Wyoming team to the conference championship. If you knew anything about the offense they made him run or how bad the OC was, you might begin to have a clue. But obviously you don't. Wyoming doesn't get 8 win seasons but once every 20 years. The kid is a winner, bottom line.

They all coached for more than 2 years. Buffalo fans can be some big time alarmists. You would think we were supposed to be in the Super Bowl this year. We are 1 game out of first place. Crying wolf At this point if you traded Allen, you would be doing him a big favor. Foles isn't winning with a team like Philly. How would he win with this crap offense? Get a clue please.

Great research. Nice agenda. You hide it well. NOT! You are guessing about Lamar and you know it. Maybe try and get your media credentials. Lol.

Nice comeback professor. Maybe know more about football than you do English. Because your knowledge of football is pretty poor. I do have to hand it to you, you do put out some ignorant posts.

I have wanted to question the handling of Allen myself, but I didn't want to be a homer. I figure he didn't get much help at Wyoming either, so maybe coaches think he can just figure it out. I really don't know. And I don't know much about the pro part as to how much help they get. Some on here kept pointing out how Daboll followed him around in camp, like he was getting treated special. So I thought pros were just supposed to adapt. I will say they are making him look stupid and that he doesn't know how too throw vertical. We saw earlier in the year the kinds of throws he can make. I think they are doing more damage at times with the too conservative play calling. Why they don't grab a few receivers on a 1 year contract is beyond me. I wouldn't be suprised if they traded Shady to deplete the offense even more. I think they don't care about this year. Winning is just a bonus. When I watch his receivers I see them taking plays off, jogging through their patterns if it looks like they aren't the intended receivers. And won't even get into the drops. It seems the announcers are on his side when he is winning, and flip very quickly if he starts to lose in a game. The media are mostly negative, and grudgingly give him kudos. At least Rosen has a true #1 and 2 receiver to get open. Allen doesn't even have that.

Allen statistically has the most wins of the rookie qb's. Tied, same thing. If you r trying to prove you are an Allen hater, Message received. I just hope all that negativity doesn't eat at you and you can't enjoy the progression of Allen and the team. When it comes down to it Allen just wins . He has won at every level. It may not be the prettiest, but he wins. In his first full year at Wyoming he got them into the conference championship. Say whatever pops into your noggin, but he will end up proving you wrong. I love it. I agree with you Hapless, Allen sits by himself with his tablet. I didn't think about Peterman not being in the picture. Good catch.

When I saw Josh on the sidelines, it looked like he had a tablet going over something with someone because he had his headphones on and was talking back to someone. I imagine it was Daboll, and they were watching the last series or what they were going to do next to counter the defense. Just guessing on my part. But I agree, the more help the better.

.Actually do your homework and see what the Wyoming story really is instead of hearing it second hand. And please don't claim you know anything about his college experience. There were a lot of experts saying he would go in the top 10. So are you an expert now? Even Baker Mayfield said he figured it would come down to Allen or him as the number 1 pick. It amazes me how anyone with a smart phone can become an expert on everything and anything. Did you want to be an astronaut as a kid? Just curious.

Allen wasn't bothered by that. I watched the coaches at Wyoming make a potential 1st pick in the draft, hand the ball off all day long. I was so pissed off at how they used Josh last year. Here is a guy who has this great arm reduced to handing the ball off because the coaches only cared that they could become bowl eligible. He had a horrible cast around him and he was the leading rusher on the team. The staff at Wyoming did a disservice to Josh by not molding the offense around his talent. Instead used him like a QB in an option type offense. They called it a Pro set, but in name only. The offense they have installed at Wyoming is in the mold of a jr. high team. No sophistication in the pass patterns at all. The OC was predictable to the point that the other teams defense stacked the line with an 8 man front. They ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down and passed on 3rd. On 3rd down the defense blitzed every time. Our Oline was horrid, starting 3 freshman in year 4 of the coaching staff. Woody Hayes would have been proud of this team, 2 yards and a cloud of dust. What Allen did in 2016 is more of what he can be going forward.. He actually had a few players around him that could make some plays. I would put his receivers that year up against what he is throwing to this year. If you look at the Wyoming offense in the 5 years Bohl and Vigen have been there, they have been near the bottom of the FBS offensive stats every year except 2016. The staff at Wyoming has not adapted from the FCS to the FBS, even though they won 3 straight FCS titles at North Dakota State before coming to Wyoming. Josh took those two Wyoming teams on his back and carried them to 8 win seasons. It was actually quite an accomplishment. Allen is used to winning ugly. The game against Tennessee was right up his alley. The reason he was so calm is he does that stuff all the time. It might not be pretty enough for some on this board, but all Allen cares about is the win, not his stats. If he can survive the Wyoming staff, he will thrive with a decent staff. Sorry about the long post.

And that tells me up know very little about football. They wanted Allen to stay within himself. He did what they asked. Get over it. You are like a brouen record. Did your woman leave you or something?