BB@Shooter

Allen is a rookie and will make mistakes. But he is getting better each week. He just needs to take care of the ball.

Allen sucks, his accuracy is horrible. No way he is an NFL QB. LOL.

Perfect, seeing as you are clueless about football. Not much to chat about with a troll that doesn't like the Bills. He is a rookie. Mayfield has thrown 3 interceptions in the 1st half against the Texans today. Josh did better than that against them. Why can't you guys wait until there is enough of a body of work to go off of. Didn't Goff and others show you that,?

JAClueless. Does he not get credit for the passes he makes? You are the type of dink who will say he has an interception because of the last play at the half. If it weren't for special teams we would be winning. Even though the troll in you doesn't want that. Why so clueless bro?

It really showed up on the TD pass. Not. Or some of the other lasers he threw. I saw some of the floaters which is unusual for him, but it happened to him before the injury.

And you just figured this out about KB?

Are you goofy? And what about the pass KB dropped at the 4 yard line? And the special teams? And the line holding? Allen started out slow and has been excellent since. You are a troll, not a fan. Whatever you do, don't look at the qb run that was called back, or the TD pass he made. Or the scrambles he made because the line sucks. And how many times he should have been tackled but shrugged it off. If special teams would hold up their end he would probably already scored again. You know very little about football and your hatred of Allen is showing up big time. You want him to do poorly. You are a big time troll who definitely isn't a fan. You are a sad little feller.

What don't you get about winning? He won in college and he is winning at this level. He is a leader, so stick the stats up your gazoo and look at the big picture. I was at his college games, you read some stats, what don't you get? You know nothing about what he had to work with in college. And you overlook what he has to work with on the Bills. If you want to stack the deck and play ignorant, keep it up as you are doing a great job. He didn't go 7th in the draft because no one wanted him. And he already looks better than Darnold and Rosen. And a bunch of people who do this for a living disagree with your poor evaluation. You are a sad excuse for a fan and even a spectator. You know very little about football but like to act like you do. So you know more than McDermott and Beane? I think not. And how were Allens numbers bad last week? Give it up, you suck at this.

Good post K Gun. People too lazy to watch actual game film and have to go off something they read is crap. I never missed a home game of Allen's at UW. People too lazy to dig in and learn the real story need to take a step back. When all these people need to be eating crow, they will find some smsll way to take away from what Allen did. In a post earlier this year a poster claimed Allens passing yards weren't as good as they looked because they came off of screens and dumpoffs. Now posters are claiming he doesn't check down enough. And you never hear about how well he distributes the ball. Hitting 8 or 9 different receivers. But yet he has slow eyes, doesn't read his progressions, locks in on receivers, or only looks at one third of the field, etc, etc, etc.

It makes you a hater because you can't get past it in your posts. Go back and read them. You keep poking at him every chance you get. I live in Laramie Wyoming and know exactly what he did as a player there. If you knew anything about his OC , offense , and lack of talent around him you could see past your dislike of him. Start to understand him. Big deal about some erratic throws. How about the throws that are dropped? Or the receivers that don't have enough talent to catch, get separation, or run a clean route? I hear nothing from you about that. Or Allen moving in the pocket to avoid sacks, making the line look better than they are. He is a rookie, why are all you doubters not giving him a little slack? So don't roll up and point fingers at me, I am way more positive about the Bills as a whole than you. The only Bill I single out is Benjamin. He is lazy, entitled, and a cancer to the team.

8 times a game? And you came up with that on your own? What a magical number. Just teasing ya. Every qb is different, same goes with offenses. Most elite qb's can't run like Allen. And again, he is a rookie. He will get it soon enough. The game is slowing down for him, but not quite slow enough yet. He played exactly like this his last season at Wyoming because he didn't have receivers that could get seperation or catch the ball. He can sling it with the best of them, but he is trying to protect the ball and give his team a chance to win. When he really feels it is his team and the coaches give him the green light, he will make amazing throws. But expect the interception ratio to go up with the TD ratio. With his arm strength, he will get big numbers. He is still putting it all together. Have a little patience, I think Allen and the team will grow together. It is going to be fun to watch. He doesn't at this point have even one receiver he can truly trust yet. That will change. Every good QB has that go to guy. Remember, he is a rookie that keeps progressing every game for the most part. Next year they may start out slow because they are still meshing, but it will happen. They will be in the playoffs next year if Allen is healthy . And I am not saying he will finish this year without any bad games, but he will keep improving. I look for them to use the down and out more and expoit his arm strength to set up bigger plays.

He was 6-10 his 2nd and last year. He also lied to the Dolphin players and owners saying he wasn't going back to Alabama. Nice role model you picked. And that is a what if scenario with Brees. That is like saying what if none of the receivers dropped any of Allens passes would everyone be on his bandwagon? What if posts are retarded. 6-10???? Even the Bills will get to at least that this year.

For blocking or not blocking? Two ways to look at it after reading this thread. Lol.

He couldn't kill it with NFL players, but he could with college players? You are killing me Smalls.

I do love all the what if people. Coulda, shoulda, blah ,blah, blah. If my uncle was a woman he would have been my aunt. Hypothetical crap like that does nothing for me. It is like saying if so and so would have caught that ball like he should have , we would have won the game. In high school track I would always beat this same kid in the 100 yard dash. And every time after the race he would say " I almost beat you". I would just smile and rub the 1st place medal between my fingers as I walked away. If the guy would have trained harder instead of being satisfied with coming in second ,he wouldn't have to settle. He is probably still walking around in life telling himself "what if " scenarios. I just chuckle when people come on here with their what if posts. Please show one quote where NFL players completely disagree. And not one that is a reporter or tv analyst. They get paid to stir things up and get reviews. Just find one NFL player.

I do believe Alabama's coach had a team in the NFL called the Miami Dolphins. What happened to his genius coaching? Game over. If he couldn't do it with pro athletes, what makes you think he could do it with college players?

Why wouldn't a free agent know who the qb is on a pro team? And winning helps out endorsements. A lot of athletes make more money in endorsements than they do in salary.

Boy oh boy, you sure make it hard to tell that your are an Allen hater. All he has done is progress at a very high rate with hardly any weapons and a very suspect line. Only won three games out of the 5 he has finished, and is a rookie on top of it. Is he supposed to be playing like Kelly did during the Super Bowl years for you to say he is ok? Too funny. Are you really a Bills fan?

First of all our receivers don't get seperation. Secondly KB would have dropped it. Any more what ifs? Do you actually know what a Clydesdale is? I have never seen one run away from everyone for 45 yards. Some of you haters come up with the damndest things. Laughable.

Why doesn't anyone give Zay the benefit of the doubt. Once Allen gets going and starts targeting him, he will hit another gear. It would help Zay to have had a qb, and other receivers that can hurt a defense by stretching them. Then the safeties couldn't cheat over as much. Hard to compare receivers when teams are showing way different offenses. I watched Vander Esche a lot as he played in the MWC and against Wyoming every year. He has a nose for the ball. He was fun to watch. I was wondering if playing for a non P5 team would hurt him. Evidently it hasn't.

He is a rookie, geez. And you came by this after 5 and a half games? What about the Rams QB? Did you guess right about him? I could go on but why bother. Build on that frame that just ran for 100 yards and mowed over linebackers? Too funny. Where do you guys come from?

Allen doesn't look like a bust. He looks like the 2nd best rookie qb after Mayfield. The key word is rookie. Some people wouldn't know football if one hit them in the noggin.

If they aren't insults, they are really as close as you can get to it. I was going off of your body of work. If you are an Allen fan, you hide it well.

It is more of an issue with lack of talent on the team. Why put a rookie in those situations. Look what it is doing for Rosen and Sammy Boy Darnold. Interception City. In case you haven't noticed, Allen has been protecting the ball. Allen has the least amount of talent to work with. I really hope you have more football iq than you are putting out on here.

If you only knew as much as you think you do. And he did go through his progressions. More knowledgeable people than you have already said it. A thing you should know, Daboll is taking a page out of Wyoming's boring ass playbook. In Allens sophomore year they threw the ball a lot as they had receivers. His last year as a Poke they lost almost all of his receivers and running backs. So they used Allen almost exactly like Daboll is using him now. Try doing your homework. When your supporting cast is lame, you don't highlight them. So Allen was the leading rusher and they rode him to 8 wins even though they knew he was probably going to be a top 10 pick. As a coach you do what you have to do to win. Josh could throw 50 times a game, but with this crew it would probably be a loss. I hated and still hate Wyoming's OC, but he did what it took to win. Daboll is doing the same thing. It isn't that Josh can't pass, as he can. But Josh knows how to grind out these games and win ugly. Daboll did his homework. But wait until Josh gets his supporting cast, it will be fun times. As it was in 2016, even though Josh didn’t have a defense to keep up with his scoring. Games turned into a shootout because Wyoming couldn't contain other teams. In 2017 Wyoming defense led the nation in turnover margin. They made it so Josh didn’t have to score much. So they played conservative and controlled the clock to shorten the games. The same thing Daboll is doing with Allen. You have to understand that this type of game is in Allens wheelhouse. So it is not all on Allen. I am pretty sure that is the gameplan.