Aussie Joe

“ Ray Davis - All gas no brakes “. Beth Mowins said it so it must be true .

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Well.. you thought that they had every player on their board

Im starting with the safeties first …we can move onto the other positions later

Yes … that board … So how much time to scout the safeties ?

Ok …let’s start with safety …. How many are on their board say Rounds 2-4 … 6 maybe ? How much time has be got to spend scouting these guys ?

Do you think they have every player on their board ? It could be between 80-120 odd… Does he need to have in depth knowledge of all the guys on their board ?

I’ve already argued this … go back a page or two …

Well… if I need to repeat myself again… Im saying the specific draft picks they are taking are as a result of a collaboration between the two,,, probably spent over a lot of hours in the weeks leading up to the draft discussing dozens of prospects .. When it comes to the guys they have selected … Beane knows exactly what McD thinks of the guy before the pick is made ….he is not taking a guy that MCDermott dislikes … Now ..maybe this doesn’t apply to the guys at the end of the draft … but it sure as hell does on the first 5 picks

About what? You are arguing the same point I am

I have made my point plenty of times already ,,, I

Never says he “runs” anything …. plenty of input though

Exactly my point … thanks

Do you think McDermott had input on Bishop and Carter who were picked at the end of Round 2 and 3? Are there other guys they might have agreed if they get picked beforehand ?

They talk to each other … all the time .. including prior to the draft about who they are gunna pick

We have debated this for two days now.. I have never once said that McD is instructing Beane who to pick You say that Beane makes the picks … I say that Beane is not taking a guy that McD has not ticked the box on … at least not until the last few picks …

I’ would say about 50-60 might be an achievable number … he has had months since the season ended to get up to speed on this… Now …Im not saying that he knows them all as detailed as Beane’s team does …and perhaps he might not be spending a lot of time on say a guy like Joe Alt who is unlikely to find his way to the Bills… I doubt he is looking at guys they value beyond the 5th Round … and I’m sure they have prioritised some position groups above others … McDermott attends the Senior Bowl, Combine and the Top 30 interviews… they are probably putting lines through some guys after some of those meetings… and are influenced positively by others .. Take a chill pill mate … I have said nothing of the sort …

I’ haven’t seen anyone here suggesting McDermott has evaluated 120:guys on their board… I tell you who he has evaluated though in detail…. Coleman, Bishop, Carter, Davis, SPVG … and probably a number of others …

You tell me …I’m only interested in what Beane and McD are doing …

Im not saying you are wrong about a possible need for change ... But I’ll believe when it happens … More likely to me is that Pegs is riding with McD into the new stadium …

As someone else mentioned about McDermott … the man is intense …. I don’t envy Beane having to sit next to him for like 18 hours or so over those three days … Textbook Micromanager I think you have a case of wishful thinking if you think there is any possibility McD could be out the door at the end of this season..Im no fan of him.. but 73 yr old Belichick would be worse … get an O guy in there

We don’t hear the full context … perhaps the underling has suggested taking someone else after Davis and McD is setting him straight…

Im not trying to say that Beane has to run every trade request through McD .. My point is that Beane and McD have spoken in advance of which players they are going to pick … and Beane is not taking a guy that McD hasn’t approved ..maybe he doesn’t care come the 6th/7th … but geez …he seems pretty animated about SVPG in the 5th … like an hour before they make the pick On the flip side … Im sure MCD consults with Beane about his coaching hires… and he is not taking a guy that Beane doesn’t want … it’s just a professional courtesy between the two of them ..

However …some say that Beane makes the Draft calls … I think Beane and MCDermott have collaborated and agreed the picks in advance and Beane is not taking a player that McD hasn’t ticked the box on … at least not until late Day 3…

Yes … exactly my point… they have agreed the players they want..