BillnutinHouston

Ha ha ha you got that right!

I agree with this. The very prospects that Bills fans are salivating over these days (Shanahan, Holmgren, Gruden, Cowher) are the very ones Ralph will never hire because they want too much control. Ralph simply will not tolerate "uppity" personalities in his organization as he wants people he feels he can control. I think it's highly unlikely we get a new FO but IF we do it will be Buddy's to run, and IF we get a new coach it will be an assistant who hasn't earned his stripes yet and can't dictate the type of organization he'll operate in. In reality it's less a question of money than it is control.

He didn't look out of place at all, better than Scott actually, and Ray Brown likes him (read that this AM).

Thanks but I think we knew all that yesterday.

TO has hands of stone and if the Bills could get a 3rd rounder for him I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I see the same thing - mainly in chasing down runners who have broken free.

The replay call was clearly correct, I bet 95 out of 100 neutral observers would agree. After several looks at the replay, Fouts and Enberg called it a bobble before the refs did. I actually thought it was a bobble watching the play in real time.

Yea - he threw a pick on one of them.

27-3 Jets

At this point I'd be in favor of trading, but only for draft picks (for the next regime to rebuild with). If I'm Ralph I'm parting ways with TO and Marshawn.

I voted for a separate coach and GM because I think they require two different skill sets. Ralph definitely needs to clean house on all levels.

Because Marv Levy, that football genius, was our GM at the time.

I give you credit for saying "if" we lose. I can't see a scenario where this offense moves the ball against that D with crowd noise.

Tim Tindale

My take on Marv Click if you care to read. The key quote of my post was, "The absence of any recent "glory days" for this franchise drives many to continue to worship at Marv's feet. So be it. But for all those who think Marv built or facilitated the careers of Kelly, Smith, Thomas and Reed, I say that it was really the opposite that took place. When you look OBJECTIVELY at what Marv has wrought since his association ended with those players (and Bill Polian making the personnel decisions), the results are clear. Marv's credibility to speak on any topic related to the success of the Bills is nil."

And you all say that the front office doesn't do anything!! Ha!

It was the MARVELOUS ONE who picked Poz, McCargo and Whitner. Way to go Marv, we luv ya! NOT!

I don't see the Bills moving the ball at all offensively, against that D with the crowd noise. Do any of you?

Well said. I find it interesting that Ralph has enough loyalty to the people of WNY keep the team in place there yet refuses to run it in a way that doesn't embarrass the fans. How does Ralph look down at his ring and feel good about his role in this mess?

I agree. I would add the promotion of Polian but will grant you that how that turned out was mostly luck. He is now trying the same thing with Brandon (promoting a relatively bright underling) and we all see how that's working out.

We all know that Ralph is in over his head as the leader of a legitimate football organization, and has made few decent organizational decisions since allowing Polian to run the show in the late 80's. My question to you is: what do you think is the main driver of Ralph's decisionmaking - is it mainly a) a calculated focus on making a decent profit while keeping the team in Buffalo; b) sincerely trying to win but insisting on giving himself free reign to make the major decisions and determining spending parameters, thus allowing his ego, incompetence and innate thriftiness to determine the product on the field or c) a combination of both? I think there's evidence to support all of the above. Just curious what you all think. I agree with a previous poster who stated Ralph was on the right track organizationally when he hired Donahoe and gave him full power to run the show, unfortunately TD's inability to hire a strong coach was his undoing. And TD's major PR blunders drove Ralph to retake control of his toy, thus making the franchise the rudderless mess it is today.

And a late flag thrown after our RB gets taken out of bounds, is a personal foul on our RB. How often does that happen?

I'm listening now and didn't hear him say that. Vic watched the game from the press box in Denver BTW.

Let me get this straight. Our offense puts 3 points on the board AT HOME AGAINST THE WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE and you use Roscoe to keep the heat off Trent? Watch Trents' INT when he rolled out and threw to TO - TO had at least a step on the DB yet Trent underthrew him and it resulted in an INT. PATHETIC!! But OK, it's Roscoe's fault.

Agree - the cupboard is officially bare.