The Red King

All this is about is 3rd and long. And don't give me 11-3. This team isn't flawless. 11-3 doesn't mean nothing could be wrong. Look at Pitt two years ago. Had even a better record, then got curb-stomped in the Wild Card game. I think I raised a valid concern. The longer the D is out there, the less our O is. 3rd and long should be when we get off the field, but we're blowing a disproportionate number of them. Honestly, I'm more comfortable with 3rd and 5 then I am 3rd and 10.

I'm trying, but I just can't find the stats. 3rd down overall, but not 3rd and long. Not defensively at least.

We're 17th in 3rd and long, or 3rd overall?

It may be perspective, I didn't check the numbers, but I worry about 3rd and long because our D seems bad at it. I'm actually more confident with 3rd and short. We just seem to keep getting torched on 3rd and 10, 3rd and 12, etc. 3rd and long and you can usually pressure the offense, but it seems we do the opposite, giving the QB time to kill us. Again, maybe I'm wrong, but for all our strengths we just don't look good on third and long plays.

What tickles me are the complaints about the 2pt conversion. First, it would not have mattered, we won by three. Second, there is a clear shot of the ball breaking the plane before coming free. It was literally conclusive.

It's hard to make split-second judgement calls. Face-guarding is an unofficial tie-breaker if the ref isn't sure whether or not to throw the flag.

Go back and re-read my initial reply. I think you missed the point entirely. By black and white you mean what's good for the goose is not good for the gander? If the only thing that matters for the Bills is their record, then the same holds true for the Chiefs. If it doesn't hold true for the Chiefs, then you can't use it as an argument against criticism of the Bills.

Who are the Chefs?

Mahomes has yet to play a road playoff game. I'd love for us to be his first.

Considering every post on here critiquing the Bills or coaching is met with "Hey, we're 12-3", no, the Chiefs are 12-3 so they are not overhyped. Now if you want to claim the Chiefs aren't that good despite their record, you have to open the door to the possibility Buff isn't either. You can't have it both ways. Either only the record matters, or it doesn't.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Maybe, but this one was far, far more important. Therefore, more stressful.

Oh, I'm waiting to hear phish fans b!@#$ about the snow at the end. 😁

Let me guess. There was a game of Chicken between OBJ, the Bills and the 'Boys. Beane played it cool, Dallas tried to, and both had OBJ sweating. Dallas just blinked.

I know the rule says if you succeed with both challenges you get a third. I was just curious if any team actually got one yet.

So, do we have any indication as to when he'll be ready to play?

Likely pointless, unless the NFL or someone not the refs are the ones to review it. Remember when PI was challengable? They refused to overturn even the most obvious calls. I don't see this being any different.

I think the whole "not willing to work out" thing kinda deflated all of this hype, for us, for the Bills, 'boys and Giants. That one act completely changed the tone and now it almost seems like everyone is rapidly losing interest. He did it to himself, really.

We use him on screens. We cannot block for screens. Doesn't matter who runs it, the RB is devoured immediately as "blockers" run right past opposing players like they were slalom poles.

Von is better in the playoffs then he is in the regular season. That's why we got him. This is like being kicked out of the theater after the trailers, not what you paid for. Next season I say we wrap him in bubble wrap and throw him in the freezer until the playoffs.

The numbers make it real tough to divvy up. The divisions are too diluted atm. I think go back to three divisions (Come back Central!). That should solve having a crappy division champ. But as for the playoffs, it's tough needing factors of two, giving some teams a bye, but not more then one. Still wracking my head on a viable solution there.

Like I said, and this thread outright proves it, he was still found guilty in the court of public opinion. Bringing him back would be no less a PR nightmare. Guilty until proven innocent.

No. He was already found guilty in the court of public opinion. I mean, look at how many people here wanted to crucify him and anyone else that wanted to wait on the facts.

I remember when you had three division champs and two wild cards. The division winners all got a bye where the two wild cards had to play an extra game (against each other). That seems fairer then what we got now.

Wow. How did I forget that? I must be getting old. 😆