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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:
My bad for double posting.
Just deleted a double thread I made.
I don't know why no one's posted the ranking of our players with respect to where they were drafted.
AJ Espenosa ranked 23rd.
We drafted him 54
Zack Moss ranked 76th.
We drafted him 86th
Gabriel Davis ranked 120th.
We drafted him 128
Jake Fromme ranked 85th.
We drafted him 167
Tyler Bass was 281st.
We drafted him 188
Isaiah Hodgins ranked 150th.
We drafted him 207
Dane Jackson ranked 167th
We drafted him 239
Who's rankings?
I don't know anyone who had Fromm at 85. That's mid 3rd at this point with compensatory picks.
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5 hours ago, BillsNutHawaii said:
Thanks for the info. Maybe Bills Mafia can crash and overtake the Browns draft party??!!
On another note, anyone know if Buffalo can / will ever be a NFL draft host ? Anyone know the criteria ?
Does it even need to be in an NFL city? Would love for the draft to be here in Honolulu - LOL, I know I’m dreaming, but it would be great.
The top two TV markets for the NFL draft this year were Cleveland and Columbus. Nobody's overtaking the Browns on their own draft party. This is usually all we have to look forward to.
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5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
That’s the one. Hard to believe it made sense, but that’s just me. I think the 49ers fleeced them.
They did because everyone knew who the Buccaneers needed. But, when you have a 42 year old QB and protection problems, you give up a pick to ensure you get the last of the Big 4 tackles.
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1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
AJ is a solid pick but man need another skilled player hopefully Donovan People’s Jones is there in Round 3
I'm a Michigan fan and Peoples Jones should be there in the 6th. He's not good.
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3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:
Also means they gave away both firsts and a secondThey wouldn't have to give up 18, 26, and a 2nd to move 2 spots. I could see maybe 26. Maybe just a 2nd. Detroit will likely get the same player at 5 than at 3.
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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
Okudah2 1sts and a 2nd for a corner? That seems extremely excessive, but it may be the case. Or Isaiah Simmons to combat McCaffrey.
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23 minutes ago, MJS said:
Hmm, I remember OBJ being on the field a lot during those red zone stops.
OBJ also played all of last year with a sports hernia.
5 hours ago, JohnC said:I'll still take Diggs over OBJ. Diggs did lose control and was fined. And he should have been. OBJ has a more extensive history of problematic behavior.
Can to provide examples? They both tend to have a loud mouth but as far as I know Beckham's never been fined or suspended.
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4 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:
The Browns biggest mistake last year, and every year, is not folding the franchise or moving them again to a different City......
You're original.
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3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Ohhhh the old "backing in" argument. We made it. If that Bengals game had been earlier in the year, our week 17 game would have been win-and-in, which we did. The Bills are clearly a team on the rise, while the Browns are destined for disaster with their current ownership.
And congratulations on beating us last year, that is a quality win for sure, against a 10-win playoff team. Likely the feather in the Browns' cap for the 2019 season.
Anyway, the Bills have done impressive things with their organization in recent years, from overhauling the roster, to completely changing the culture, to creating the expectation of winning. While the Browns have created the continued expectation of "Browns gonna Browns"
The Browns big mistake last year was hiring Kitchens. We'll see about Stefanski, but he seems to be much more organized.
The Bills did well hiring McDermott. The guys running the Browns FO now wanted him rather than Hue Jackson years ago, do I honestly think they'll run similar programs. It's just funny when people act like the Bills are perennial SB contenders.
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3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Except that the Bills have made the playoffs twice in the last three years and the Browns haven't made it in 17 seasons. The Bills had their similar drought obviously, but we don't suck now and we've had relevance in the last 30 years while the Browns only relevance in the past 30-odd years are stories about the back of the Cheesecake Factory.
The Bills have been 1 and done twice in 3 years, and 3 years ago they had to back in on a Bengals prayer game. Congrats. Cleveland beat Buffalo last year. Either way, neither team has done anything impressive for years.
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50 minutes ago, JohnC said:
No one is questioning OBJ's superlative talents. Without question wherever he has been he has been the most talented receiver on the team. Yet he keeps getting moved. Football is a team game where how you fit in goes beyond talent and to an extent actual production. Recognizing the fact that Diggs is less talented than OBJ I would still prefer Diggs on the roster than OBJ. You don't have to be an angel to be a wanted member on a team. On the other hand you have to have a level of maturity and stability to contribute to a culture of unselfishness that leads to team success.
Diggs has been traded as times as OBJ. Diggs was fined $200,000 for missed meetings and causing problems last year.
It's funny how people convince themselves their guy is a better guy just because, despite evidence that says otherwise.
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7 hours ago, aristocrat said:
coller thinking saferty anthony harris would be going to cle.
MKC from the Plain Dealer says a source in the Browns' FO called the report "false." 1 word answer.
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3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
So back when the last time the Browns were relevant in the league?
This is gold coming from a Bills fan. We've both sucked forever.
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The touchback call I think was just common sense. He obviously gave himself up in the endzone, so it's a touchback.
The delay of game is hard to tell. The broadcast didn't always show the right numbers. By the picture it was, but there's no way to tell if it actually was a penalty.
The "helmet to helmet" wasn't a penalty. To me that's not even close.
I do think the crack back penalty was a bit excessive for what happened.
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3 hours ago, Watkins101 said:
This trade wasn't that bad. The Hopkins trade was. This trade is more reasonable.
Cooks had 580 yards last year and has an extensive concussion history. This trade isn't as bad as the Hopkins trade, but it's still bad. And they wouldn't have needed to do it if he hadn't traded Hopkins. They're chasing their tail and getting significantly worse.
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51 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:
https://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Houston-Texans-trade-WR-Brandin-Cooks-Rams-15191040.php
Texans trade for WR brandin Cooks.
Cooks + 2021 4th for pick #57
Bill O'Brien is an idiot. He essentially just traded Hopkins for Cooks and basically moved up 17 spots in the 2nd round. Terrible, terrible trade.
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45 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:
I really don't understand what you're getting at.
I don't think Watkins has ever realized his full potential at the NFL level. That's a fair criticism.
I think he's meaning if Watkins out in the effort and maximized his talent, he wouldn't be a bust. So it s combination of draft position and player.
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1 hour ago, njbuff said:
I wonder if the Browns swoop in knowing they don't have Garrett to start the season and they still have 43 million in cap space?
Why wouldn't they have Garrett?
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5 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:
Sure about that?
Pretty sure. He's decent, but no where near what he should be.
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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Agree. Sammy is a lot better than Williams.
Is he? 673 and 3TDs with Mahomes vs 651 and 6 TDs with Carr.
KC has a lot more options to throw to, but Watkins isn't good.
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On 3/18/2020 at 7:24 PM, Augie said:
Look at the demon claws on left one!
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I have no clue how a guy who had 3.5 sacks last year wants $20 million. It's insane. Clowney is a good player, but I don't feel he is elite.
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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
Except one of those teams is much better then the other team?
Yes....you can draft players to call your core.....but if they suck then you have the Browns
THis just in...the Browns are NOT a good team....and spending all the free agency money does not change that.
Much better huh? Cleveland beat Buffalo last year in case you forgot. Freddie Kitchens was garbage. He called plays during the games that weren't practiced all week. He was clueless.
Buffalo did have a better year last year but to say that they're much better is a bit of a reach.
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49 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
Not the core players
man I hope Norman kills it because I honestly would rather have had Kevin Johnson
The cores are similar too. Drafted QB, RB, CB1, olines are mixtures, WRs are almost entirely "acquired" players, dlines are mixtures, lbs are similar. Again, most teams are.
Ed Oliver Arrested DWI
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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If you can't not drink while driving, you may have a problem.
People who act like drinking alcohol while driving is ok or normal need help. I'm not saying 1 or 2 gets would impair most people, but if it's against the law, and could impair you and you still feel like you need to, it's a problem.