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On 2/22/2022 at 1:20 AM, reddogblitz said:
Have not seen this discussed anywhere so why not start a thread?
Juwan, a college coach coaching young men and should be setting an example on how to be a man punches or slaps or whatever an opposing coach. How can Michigan not have fired him already? When Woody Hayes punched an opposing player, he was packing his trash the next day.
Slapping someone like that is clearly an assault. Should he be fired and charged? If not, why not?
Woody Hayes punched an opposing PLAYER, during a game, on the field. Completely different situation. Howard was suspended, and rightfully so. Assault? You kidding me Clark?
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5 hours ago, Weatherman said:
How’d he do the previous year? Who said anything about the HOF? He had a solid rookie campaign 7.5 sacks, 4FF, 3 FR, and crowned DROY. We don’t have a single DE on this team that can effectively rush the passer. Rousseau is still an unknown and everyone else most likely wouldn’t be starters on any team in the league.
Which QB is Washington trading up for?
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4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
LOL, actually he might do a good job.
Both Gase and O Brien were meant to be coordinators, neither was cut out as an NFL HC.
Bill O'Brien was a pretty good HC until he somehow got roster control too. Bill the GM ruined Bill the HC.
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1 hour ago, Doc said:
Hindsight is 20/20. As has been stated, if anyone knew how good Mahomes was going to be, he'd have been the 1st overall pick instead of Trubisky. And if you want to play that game, picking Baker 1st overall was stupid.
Baker is trending down. If he doesn't greatly improve, then yes, it was a stupid pick.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
Not when the GM was a dead man walking.
Any team that does not have a franchise quarterback and passes on one is stupid. It doesn't matter the situation. Again, it worked out for Buffalo in the long run but that doesn't mean the decision wasn't stupid.
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Pretty sure a ton of teams have an assistant OL coach.
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9 minutes ago, BananaB said:
Wasn’t stupid at all. If everyone knew what Mahomes would become he would of gone #1, he didn’t for a reason. He’s a great player but he also was blessed having a team like KC making the jump to get him. They were a team ready to play for Championships but needed figure out the QB position to do so.
Same can be said for Allen, if teams knew what he’d become he’d would of went first as well. Bills made the leap for Allen but were the total opposite, they were figuring out how to win and do it consistently. The whole offense was gutted the year he arrived.
I think it’s too hard to judge at this point. Last year I would of said Mahomes but now I’m not sold on that. Only time will tell. Let’s hope it’s Josh
It was stupid. Passing on a franchise QB when you don't have one is stupid. And yes, most people didn't realize what Mahomes would become, and anyone team that passed on him without a franchise QB before the Bills did are also stupid.
And the Chiefs had Alex Smith at QB when they drafted Mahomes. I would never categorize Smith as elite, but he was a good QB at that point in his career. He had 26TDs and 5 INTs Mahomes' rookie year in 15 games.
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2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Way too many people are forgetting what he did at Stanford. He took over a weak program and within 4 seasons got them to 12-1 and won a blowout in the Orange Bowl (against Tyrod Taylor, actually). He was an incredible coach at the University of San Diego (D2) as well, taking over a moribund program and going 11-1 in both of his final two years there.
Finally, it’s as if people don’t realize he was good at Michigan. Excluding the covid season, he went 10-3, 10-3, 8-5, 10-3, 9-4, and 12-2 (59-19 overall). Yes, he lost to Ohio State, but that was a function of talent. Ohio State has more than anyone else outside of Alabama.
Yeah, people always just throw out the "He lost to Ohio State" while completely ignoring that Ohio State has had a huge recruiting lead for years now, mainly due to the Rodriguez/Hoke down years and underachieving. Harbaugh hasn't been perfect by any means, but he has greatly improved the teams since he arrived. His main downside was his loyalty to Don Brown. Once he replaced him, the defense matched up a lot better to spread/speed teams.
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15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Funny how those telling us to "shut up" forget this fact. For YEARS after the KC trade we had to read comments and threads that talked ONLY about not picking Mahomes. Heck, in 2019 THREE FREAKING years after the fact and with Allen showing signs of being a great QB and the Bills making the playoffs we were still subjected to this abuse.
But now when folks naturally want to rank order the four best young QB's in the AFC (Allen, Mahomes, Burrow & Herbert) they want people to shut the hell up. IMO the arguing over who is the best of these elite young QB's makes a lot more sense then the constant whining about how the Bills didn't draft Mahomes.
To be fair, not drafting Mahomes was completely stupid. Just because it worked out a year later doesn't mean that passing him was a good call. Just dumb luck that worked out.
As far as who is better, they're all so close at this point it doesn't really matter.
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10 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
i don't know, why not?
depends on if the Steelers are in rebuild mode. The Steelers are another team, if Rodgers is there, another challenge. Hopefully Rodgers stays in GB, which fails to put a winning team around him.
yep, I think the best way is FA. I could only think of Watt, but there might be FA's available.
No team is going to tie up 30% of their cap on a player they don't even have. And I doubt the Steelers are going full rebuild after they snuck into the playoffs. They need a QB and they'll at least be competative.
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Steelers can't trade Watt. WAY too much dead money for them to eat.
But yeah, I still had some minor turnover doubts about Allen to start the year, but congrats, you got a top tier QB from here on out. Dude has had the physical ability the entire time, but he developed more than I ever thought he could.
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1 minute ago, Bangarang said:
Looked like he clearly had possession with both feet draggingHe lost control with both hands and recaught it, but by then he was out of bounds. If he didn't bobble it would have been a catch.
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Just now, HappyDays said:
How is that not a catch??
Double caught it. By the time he secured it, he had touched out of bounds.
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2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:
Pittsburgh kept this game interesting longer than I thought. It was still interesting with like 5 minutes left in first half.
And then a little later it was 35-7.
Big Ben is so beyond washed up it's kind of incredible.
Makes you wonder what Brady is up to.Simple case of steroids, etc.?
The simple fact that you are comparing Ben and Brady, and chalk it up to steroids, is laughable. Ben is the opposite of what a NFL player should be in terms of taking care of himself. He is notoriously unhealthy.
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1 hour ago, Helpmenow said:
Bob Saget, the American actor and stand-up comedian who was best known for his role as beloved single dad Danny Tanner in the sitcom ‘Full House’, was found dead from ‘unknown causes’ in a room at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Orlando on Sunday, just a month after getting his COVID booster shot.
In one post, you claim it was a heart attack "from something else" then in another your article says "from unknown sources." So which is it? What evidence do you have?
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Kneel it out!
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1 hour ago, TH3 said:
Don’t get why “hot coordinators” are the go to…..completely different job and skill set required to be a HC
It's either a "hot" coordinator or a retread HC.
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21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Blaming the media again - clown show up there as usual. She says he’s unhappy and there is friction. He will want to be traded unless things change (play calling to avp etc). It doesn’t criticize him. It’s not surprising. He does seem miserable. Why wouldn’t he be?
do you think she made this up for clickbait or she has a source that told her this? Whether the source is right or wrong (I’ll be honest, she’s usually way too kind to the browns)
The Cleveland beat reporters are softer than almost any other nfl market. Most of the town kisses his ass on the regular. He’s the most sensitive nfl player of all time.
he hated hue. Then he wanted Freddy. Then he hated Freddy. Then he liked stefanski for a minute. Now he can’t work with him either. It’s always someone else’s fault.
what’s his value right now? A 4th? 5th?Yes Beane is terrible. His team is in the playoffs, no one cares about teller (well, I don’t)
Again, the majority of the top of your quote is pure speculation. The only one that was confirmed to be an issue was Mayfield and Jackson. The others are speculation and that's it. I never once saw anything where he "hated" Kitchens or Stefanksi.
And your whole first statement is what Cabot wrote, and again, it's speculation. Unless she talked to Stefanski or Mayfield, it's speculation. They had barely finished the game and there is an article about him wanting to be traded. Cabot writes articles for clicks, and subscriptions now as well. Some are overly complimentary. Most are speculation and inferences based on nothings. You don't just run a story based on a source unless you can verify the information. And it's not just her, it's media as a whole. The entire sports media just throws up "sources" on every report with no basis whatsoever. A lot, like Schefter, have proven over the years to obviously verify things because it is extremely rare they are wrong.
Also, I was never saying Beane is terrible, just making the comparison because every GM out there makes a bad trade or drafts a bad player. It happens.
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54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Always believe the guy that gave up a 3rd for tuhrod Taylor. 🤣
Right, but just any random article you found is more credible? Dorsey also drafted Mahomes, so I guess he's total garbage huh? Ward? Chubb? He was a pretty decent GM, though he missed a lot in the middle rounds, just too full of himself and chose to due on the Freddie Kitchens hill in Cleveland. Is Beane bad for trading Teller to.........Dorsey?
I'm not saying it's not possible that Mayfield had input, but just as much (or more) points the other direction.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
That’s right. She works for the Cleveland plain dealer. She’s a real reporter. She doesn’t write her own headlines. She’s not negative. She’s not “drumming up drama”. She reports what she hears. Browns fans don’t like it because they don’t want drama around the team but “baker the content maker” is the one driving the clicks not her. And of you listen to any objective person they will say the same thing including the radio media who have been saying any criticism of her is a joke in this regard. Only the fans in denial rag on her.
The thing is, Baker didn't say anything about this situation until Cabot posted an article that is pure speculation. That's her issue. She implies stuff nonstop and then write articles about that as if it is legit.
I am sure Mayfield and Stefankski have some issues as the season didn't go as planned. I think any fan would admit it. But Cabot has been writing crap stories like this for years, not just since Mayfield has been there.
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1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
I thought you couldn’t trade comp picks?
They changed that a couple years ago.
4 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:Don’t laugh at the guy but with Covid, the draft last year was really week after round 4. With the extra year this draft will be deeper than typical ones.
The Bills have 9 picks. If Frazier gets a HC job that’s an extra 3rd. Usually you have to get about 3.5 million now to even qualify in the top 32 lost Free Agents.
Out of those guys that are Free Agents, I suspect if we don’t re sign them that Trubisky, Wallace, Phillips, maybe Hughes on a 1 year, and Neal because of his STs prowess plus position flexibility being the likely guys. I would suspect we end up with 2 comp picks in the later rounds.
It could end up being
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3rd
3rd(Frazier)
4th
5th
5th(Comp)
6th
6th(Johnson)
6th(Comp)
7th
7th(Smith)
Limit of 4 comp picks per team, and also a limit on the total number, so it can vary quite a bit.
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18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
And there are plenty of articles that say he didn't have a say in the hiring. Dorsey himself said Mayfield didn't have a say.
https://www.cleveland.com/sports/g66l-2019/01/85a2a5bc4b7005/baker-mayfields-involvement-in.html
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26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Possibly
But the Kitchens experiment, wasn’t that on Baker?
No. It's on John Dorsey. Dorsey himself said he didn't consult Mayfield about Kitchens.
20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:Yes. An ill advised hire because they let a rookie Qb call the shots. As it stands the only HC he’s ever gotten along with is Lincoln Riley
Mayfield didn't hire Kitchens. It was Dorsey hiring a yes man.
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51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
LOL at every failed Browns QB jumping in to get get shots off at Cabot, as if their horrible performances that ended their careers are HER fault.
Kinda funny, but mostly pathetic. Typical Browns.
It obviously not her fault players fail, but she consistently drums up drama and controversy where there typically is none. It drives clicks. It's how she makes money, so I get it.
Why has Juwan Howard not been fired and charged with assault?
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The difference is Hayes hit an opposing player, completely unprovoked, on the field, during the game.
Howard obviously make a dumb choice in escalating the situation, but the other 2 coaches grabbed him, and also grabbed 2 of his players. So stop comparing the 2. Howard deserved to be punished, and he was.