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13 minutes ago, Foxx said:
Giants will not trade with their cross-town rival. never have.
Dropping 1 spot for an extra pick or 2 would be an easy decision, unless the Giants want a QB.
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John Dorsey is regarded as one of the most tight lipped GMs in the NFL. Nothing out there is known for fact. People are just speculating and hoping it sticks.
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5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
It’s fine. You believe your link, I’ll believe mine. And even IF yours is closer to the truth, what a loser Jackson is for “settling” for a 2nd year qb who threw 28 tds to 7 ints for the highest scoring team in the nfl. What an idiot!!!
Browns RG3 was nowhere near Redskins rookie RG3. He had been figured out long before that.
1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:[checks Browns schedule]
hes 0-4 and fired by October
Come on, we play the Jets week 3!
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7 minutes ago, Mr. ChumChums said:
To be fair, it's reported that Hue has multiple media outlets that he leaks info to (which is the whole basis of the tweet in the first post), so it could just be a case of hindsight correction.
I assume Peter King is one of them - the others, harder to guess maybe? At the end of the day, I would take everything (even my own opening post) with a grain of salt. But still, fun to speculate!
Yeah, leading up to the draft it was reported over and over th at Jackson loved Goff but wasn't sold on Wentz. When St. Louis traded up for Goff, Cleveland traded down.
Mike Silver is good buddies with Jackson too and it's rumored Jackson leaks stuff to him and others a lot.
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27 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
As the clock ticks on Thursday night, the Giants pick gets less and less valuable.
5 premium draft picks for Barkley.
3 1st round picks, and probably a 2nd and 3rd as well, or a great RB prospect. That's the question.
The pick gets more valuable as time goes. Once the Giants are on the clock, there are 10 minutes to hammer out a deal. Either teams overpay, or the Giants take Barkley like they want. I'd trade, but they aren't really pressured to, yet Buffalo has made it clear they are all on a QB. Time will tell whether they overpay or not.
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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Hue also wanted to draft Wentz and Watson. Funny that the offensive coach wanted to get a qb.
No, Hue DIDN'T want them. He wanted Goff. That's one of the strikes against him, even though Goff was gone. He didn't want either of the other 2.
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49 minutes ago, Carter said:
Ah yeah. Luck has been injury proned and when heathy he kinda sucks. Talk about over rated.
He averaged over 29 TDs for the years he was healthy, and 14 INT. You're crazy.
Plus, look at Rosen's injury history, in college.
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Rosen' s main issues are personality and health. 1 more concussion could cost him a season, or more. He also has some personality quarks that rub people the wrong way.
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1 hour ago, BuffAlone said:
He's better than Luck. Better than this years crop. He's special.
This is the dumbest statement I've heard in a long, long time. Better than Luck?
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5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
I'm obviously no expert, but I have you guys going tackle at 23, te at 31, and taking lauletta with pick 95
I dont see any way Lauletta makes it to 95. I think he'll go mid 2nd, maybe early 2nd.
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52 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
It is does seem like that, which means the rumor is either legit or just a very effective smoke screen!
We still know nothing.
An analytical metric which scores Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb substantially higher than Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben doesn't seem all that useful to me.
And where's Brady?
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19 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
I think I'm in the opposite boat. Take Williams or McGlinchey at 12 and the best remaining CB (or potentially another EDGE if they slide, like Davenport or Landry) at 22
None of the OT are good enough for that high. Take Ward or Fitz and honestly I'd maybe take OT at 22, but I may wait for 33 or 35 as well. Or take Ward/Fitz at 12, Hughes/Alexander at 22, RB at 33, and OT at 35. Brown has great tape and horrible combine. Could be a steal.
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22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
On that point:
Especially because Cleveland doesn't have a 3rd. I like White, but don't want him as the future. If he lasts to the 4th, I would Kirk Cousins pick him just in case.
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4 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:
I'm not a big fan of Miller would rather have Vander Esch at 22 or trade bk with Cleveland for #33 & #35 . Take Connor Williams and Sony Michel with those pks. Cleveland would make a deal at this pt if Mike Hughes, Jaire Alexander or McGlitchey is still available
33 or 35 and 64 maybe, not 33 and 35.
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If Dorsey doesn't take a QB at 1, I'm driving to Berea and kicking him in the sack before pick 4. I dont even care which one it is. Take your highest rated QB at 1, then make the best out of 4, and whether it be Barkley, Chubb, or trade down.
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2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
The colts have three seconds this year right? Do they really want 5? I’d say a second this year and one next year.
Take the 2 this year and start packaging them to move up back into the 1st.
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11 minutes ago, wppete said:
It worked out with Cleveland this year from last years trade with the Texans. Browns got the #4 pick this year because the Texans were destroyed by injuries last year.
And #35 because Brock Osweiler is that terrible.
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20 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:
I think the Browns will draft Chubb or the OG from ND at 4 even if Barkely is still there. They can get an elite defender or OL and get a running back later.
This scenario then allows Denver to take Barkely and would still leave one of the top 4 quarterbacks on the board at 6.
Cleveland's last need is a guard. They have 2 very good, highly paid guards. It's Chubb, Barkley, or trade down at 4.
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53 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:
Full disclosure. I had to let google refresh my memory on the details after your post. Ditka traded his draft for the 5th pick and the 4th pick was Edgerrin James. WTF? Memory fades and I just had it in my mind that they traded their entire draft for #1.
And then after passing on all the picks, the Browns took Couch over Donovan McNabb. Let's hope the Browns do Brownian things again this year and it benefits the Bills...however it all goes down!
Couch could have been a good QB, he just got no help and a line that couldn't protect him at all. Manning probably would have sucked on that team.
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It was a trade in some official mock draft that guys were live tweeting.
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19 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Hearing Darnold is the Browns preference at 1 (not a stretch) and Chubb at 4 if he makes it there (ditto). The 3 way trade is actually a possibility and would result in the Browns taking Mayfield at 2 (after Darnold going 1). Darnold is also the only QB the NYG would take at 2. Otherwise it’s Chubb or Barkley.
If Darnold is #1, just take him.
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On 4/3/2018 at 7:14 PM, SinceThe70s said:
Good one.
I'll throw out Ditka trading away his draft for Ricky Williams...and rocking the dreads.
How about the Browns turning down Ditka's trade even though they were an expansion team in need of tons of help.
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3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
could be smoke to make other teams believe they're set at QB and may not draft one in the first round?
whadda, whadda, whadda you say?
Hue Jackson all but said the 1st pick is a QB. They aren't trying to convince people they aren't taking a QB.
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16 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Another fine example.
To be honest, I know very little about the QBs and NOTHING about anyone else. Don't know who Chubb is, where's he's from or what position he plays. I at least can answer those questions about Barkely, but nothing beyond that. I just can't get interested. It's enough to know there are possibly four and maybe more good QBs in this draft, along with the usual two or three super-studs at other positions, guys who would be going 1-2-3 if EJ Manuel were the best QB in the draft.
In that kind of a draft, you're going to see exactly what we've seen and will continue to see. Moves to get into position, and speculation about a lot of other moves. The Bills, beginning with the Chiefs deal last season, have put themselves in the mix. The Jets made a great move to 3. The Browns, of course, set themselves up beautifully. The Giants have a tough decision to make. Broncos seem to me to be a big wildcard.
For fans whose teams are in the mix, is interesting, crazy, fascinating and fun.
Now that's a really interesting point. If the Browns win big with their two first-round picks, their cap situation in four years gets very complicated. They'll have a $30 million QB and a $20 million running back to deal with.
That's not how it works though. The 4th year option is based on the 10 highest salaries at your position, not by draft slot. The QB would garner a ton of money but I doubt Barkley would be $20 million. Either way, that 4 years of great play to figure it out.
Allbright: "It's Darnold" UPDATE: He admits he was wrong
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I assume the Browns are trying to cause confusion and try to drive up the price for 4.