cle23
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Rosen' s main issues are personality and health. 1 more concussion could cost him a season, or more. He also has some personality quarks that rub people the wrong way.
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1 hour ago, BuffAlone said:
He's better than Luck. Better than this years crop. He's special.
This is the dumbest statement I've heard in a long, long time. Better than Luck?
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5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
I'm obviously no expert, but I have you guys going tackle at 23, te at 31, and taking lauletta with pick 95
I dont see any way Lauletta makes it to 95. I think he'll go mid 2nd, maybe early 2nd.
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52 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
It is does seem like that, which means the rumor is either legit or just a very effective smoke screen!
We still know nothing.
An analytical metric which scores Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb substantially higher than Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben doesn't seem all that useful to me.
And where's Brady?
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19 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
I think I'm in the opposite boat. Take Williams or McGlinchey at 12 and the best remaining CB (or potentially another EDGE if they slide, like Davenport or Landry) at 22
None of the OT are good enough for that high. Take Ward or Fitz and honestly I'd maybe take OT at 22, but I may wait for 33 or 35 as well. Or take Ward/Fitz at 12, Hughes/Alexander at 22, RB at 33, and OT at 35. Brown has great tape and horrible combine. Could be a steal.
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22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
On that point:
Especially because Cleveland doesn't have a 3rd. I like White, but don't want him as the future. If he lasts to the 4th, I would Kirk Cousins pick him just in case.
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4 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:
I'm not a big fan of Miller would rather have Vander Esch at 22 or trade bk with Cleveland for #33 & #35 . Take Connor Williams and Sony Michel with those pks. Cleveland would make a deal at this pt if Mike Hughes, Jaire Alexander or McGlitchey is still available
33 or 35 and 64 maybe, not 33 and 35.
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If Dorsey doesn't take a QB at 1, I'm driving to Berea and kicking him in the sack before pick 4. I dont even care which one it is. Take your highest rated QB at 1, then make the best out of 4, and whether it be Barkley, Chubb, or trade down.
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2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
The colts have three seconds this year right? Do they really want 5? I’d say a second this year and one next year.
Take the 2 this year and start packaging them to move up back into the 1st.
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11 minutes ago, wppete said:
It worked out with Cleveland this year from last years trade with the Texans. Browns got the #4 pick this year because the Texans were destroyed by injuries last year.
And #35 because Brock Osweiler is that terrible.
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20 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:
I think the Browns will draft Chubb or the OG from ND at 4 even if Barkely is still there. They can get an elite defender or OL and get a running back later.
This scenario then allows Denver to take Barkely and would still leave one of the top 4 quarterbacks on the board at 6.
Cleveland's last need is a guard. They have 2 very good, highly paid guards. It's Chubb, Barkley, or trade down at 4.
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53 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:
Full disclosure. I had to let google refresh my memory on the details after your post. Ditka traded his draft for the 5th pick and the 4th pick was Edgerrin James. WTF? Memory fades and I just had it in my mind that they traded their entire draft for #1.
And then after passing on all the picks, the Browns took Couch over Donovan McNabb. Let's hope the Browns do Brownian things again this year and it benefits the Bills...however it all goes down!
Couch could have been a good QB, he just got no help and a line that couldn't protect him at all. Manning probably would have sucked on that team.
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It was a trade in some official mock draft that guys were live tweeting.
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19 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Hearing Darnold is the Browns preference at 1 (not a stretch) and Chubb at 4 if he makes it there (ditto). The 3 way trade is actually a possibility and would result in the Browns taking Mayfield at 2 (after Darnold going 1). Darnold is also the only QB the NYG would take at 2. Otherwise it’s Chubb or Barkley.
If Darnold is #1, just take him.
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On 4/3/2018 at 7:14 PM, SinceThe70s said:
Good one.
I'll throw out Ditka trading away his draft for Ricky Williams...and rocking the dreads.
How about the Browns turning down Ditka's trade even though they were an expansion team in need of tons of help.
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3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
could be smoke to make other teams believe they're set at QB and may not draft one in the first round?
whadda, whadda, whadda you say?
Hue Jackson all but said the 1st pick is a QB. They aren't trying to convince people they aren't taking a QB.
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16 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Another fine example.
To be honest, I know very little about the QBs and NOTHING about anyone else. Don't know who Chubb is, where's he's from or what position he plays. I at least can answer those questions about Barkely, but nothing beyond that. I just can't get interested. It's enough to know there are possibly four and maybe more good QBs in this draft, along with the usual two or three super-studs at other positions, guys who would be going 1-2-3 if EJ Manuel were the best QB in the draft.
In that kind of a draft, you're going to see exactly what we've seen and will continue to see. Moves to get into position, and speculation about a lot of other moves. The Bills, beginning with the Chiefs deal last season, have put themselves in the mix. The Jets made a great move to 3. The Browns, of course, set themselves up beautifully. The Giants have a tough decision to make. Broncos seem to me to be a big wildcard.
For fans whose teams are in the mix, is interesting, crazy, fascinating and fun.
Now that's a really interesting point. If the Browns win big with their two first-round picks, their cap situation in four years gets very complicated. They'll have a $30 million QB and a $20 million running back to deal with.
That's not how it works though. The 4th year option is based on the 10 highest salaries at your position, not by draft slot. The QB would garner a ton of money but I doubt Barkley would be $20 million. Either way, that 4 years of great play to figure it out.
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24 minutes ago, Commonsense said:
1.Darnold
2. Barkley
3. Mayfield
4. Nelson
5. Bills (Allen)
thats how i see it right now.
Cleveland has a 0% chance of drafting Nelson with Bitonio and Zeitler. It'll be Barkley or Chubb (whoever falls) or trade down.
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Having Taylor changes absolutely nothing about pick 1.
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Rumor basically the same principle as has been tossed around.
Buffalo gets 1.
NY Giants get 4, 22, and a 5th.
Cleveland gets 2, 12, 53, 65, 2019 1st, and possibly 56.
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3 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:
Bills trade #12 and #22 to Colts for #6
Bills trade #6 and #65th to Browns for #4
Browns-Darnold
Giants-Barkley
Jets-Mayfield
Bills-Rosen
We would still have picks 53, 56, 96 and we keep all our picks next year. This also ensures we jump over Broncos, cut out the Cardinals, Dolphins, Patriots and whoever else wants to trade up because the Giants are not trading out of #2.
It took 3 2nds for the Jets to go from 6 to 3 but it only costs a 3rd to go from 6 to 4?
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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
So for this to work, it's going like this:
-Bills trade 12th pick, 2nd and 4th round pick to Colts in exchange for 6th pick
-Bills trade 6th pick and 22nd pick to Giants in exchange for 2nd pick
-Someone gives Bills a 5th round pick back as change
I'd be surprised that 12th overall, 2nd and 4th round was enough to move up to 6th.
What did the Jets give to move from 6th to 3rd overall?
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2 2nds this year and a 2nd next year.
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21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
It’s a guide too. People get caught up in the numbers. Look at what the Dolphins traded for Dion Jordan vs. what the Redskins traded for RG3. Both teams traded to 2 but at a totally different price.
Right, one was for a quarterback and one wasn't. There are premiums paid when trading up for a QB.
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3 minutes ago, #34fan said:
Fixed, bud.
I think AZ makes an offer, not even CLE would refuse.
From 15? Is it 3 drafts worth of picks? David Johnson and Patrick Peterson?
Bills should trade 4 number 1 picks and move to the 1st pick of the draft
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He averaged over 29 TDs for the years he was healthy, and 14 INT. You're crazy.
Plus, look at Rosen's injury history, in college.