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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:
No one deserves to be suspended on the Steelers. Rudolph was taken hard to the ground well after the pass and with 8 seconds to go. He was angry and trying to pry Garrett off of him and got his hands on his helmet. What happened afterwards is the ONLY thing anyone should be focusing on. As for Pouncey, all Steelers should be excused for their actions after what Garrett and the other Browns player did. It was beyond the pale and ineffingexcusable. That was George Atkinson/Jack Tatum-level stuff after a game of cheap shots by Cleveland. Two years of Gregg Williams, the excusing of the fighting and cheap shots (especially by Garrett) all season by Kitchins, the bringing on of a bad guy like Kareem Hunt, the trade for guys like Landry and ro a lesser extent Beckham, and this is what you get. That is a team that should be 7-3 based on talent, and they are 4-6.
The one silver lining is that the rivalry between these two teams is going to be ferocious going forward.
if you are honestly trying to say that Rudolph got his hand stuck in his helmet and was just trying to get up you're kidding yourself. He kicked him in the junk and was trying to twist and yank his helmet while they were still on the ground.
Garrett drug him to the ground a little late but he didn't slam him down like you're saying.
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1 hour ago, DasNootz said:
Rudolph deserves a game off, as does Pouncey and ogunjobi. Garrett deserves the rest of the season off.
rudolph definitely came off as a brat that bit off more than he could chew.
There are pictures now of Rudolph hitting Garrett in the junk twice, once right before the helmet swing.
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3 minutes ago, CommonCents said:
For serious or for fun? Do you imagine Garrett was laying on top of Rudolph and being silent? Or do you imagine he was running his mouth while having a grown man pinned down. In either case, what reaction was he trying to get by doing A or B?
He tried to clown Rudolph who then tried to pull off his helmet and then Garrett went bonkers because he didn’t want to get shown up. If you’re not being a punk you don’t end up in fight. This is the third stupid and borderline violent thing he has done this year. Any incidents of Rudolph losing his mind in the NFL or in college?
Watch Rudolph's press conference. He goes on about Garrett being a coward and then has this little smirk like a little kid who just got away with something.
Rudolph was pissed that he got hit on a play with 8 seconds left but if you don't want to get a hit don't run a play. They weren't going to win, the play clock had more time than the game clock so they could have just kneeled the game out.
Rudolph instigated a fight and Garrett definitely escalated it way beyond where it should have been. Both should be punished with Garrett obviously getting a more severe punishment.
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1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:
Poor Myles Garrett. Poor DE getting pushed around BY A QUARTERBACK. Dude, really? Garrett just committed felony assault out there. He's *****. He should lose a season.
This line of thinking is garbage. Was Garrett wrong in what he did? Absolutely. Should he be suspended? Again, absolutely.
But Rudolph, QB or not, tried to tear off his helmet while twisting his neck AND kicked him in the junk, and then kept after him too. And he's 6'5" and 240lbs. He's not some defenseless and innocent bystander as it seems he's being portrayed as.
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That type of play has become a trend for that exact reason. It's a pass that's basically a run, but if it doesn't connect, it's not a fumble. Every team has some variation of it.
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Step 1. Do NOT make pumpkin soup.
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2 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:
The point is obvious.
Do the bills really suck because their opponents are 12-27 combined?
He shows the bad plays Josh made and could do the same with any QB - what about the good ones?He calls Josh Kyle
Why doesn't he look at the mighty Patriots opponents W-L and come to a similar conclusion? Who have they beat?
The only thing with the Pats is they are on pace of setting the record for points differential right now, so they are playing crap teams but beating them by 20+ points on average.
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Peanut butter and pickle sandwiches. They're amazing.
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8 minutes ago, CajunBillsBacker said:
Yes, exactly? That picture is pointing out that the ball traveled slightly backwards. Which is exactly what I said. What’s your point?
My point is somehow I quoted the wrong person.
My post was intended for Xwnyer.
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1 hour ago, CajunBillsBacker said:
Blaming that loss on that play is as bad as Saints fans blaming the loss to the Rams on no pass interference. So many blown opportunities to put the game away that it shouldn’t have come down to a judgement call.
btw, I think it was ever so slightly backwards. It took years for me to come to that realization and acceptance.
Do you not see the picture 2 posts above yours? And for the 29th time, where the "thrower" is has absolutely no effect on the call. Only where the ball is released.
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35 minutes ago, ricojes said:
let go of it on the 25, caught it closer to the 26.
He was at the 25, the ball was not. All that matters is where the ball is.
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Legal. Leaves his hand at the 26. It is caught at slightly past the 25, but definitely not to the 26. Just barely, but it was legal.
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2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:
Team on field. Ass on bench. Not injured. That is benched.
Mayfield didn't play well, but he wasn't benched and you know it. You're doing a great job trolling though. He also had next to no help either. OBJ dropped at least 2 passes. Callaway drops a pass that turns in to an INT. Mayfield was hit on the early INT to Sherman, causing the throw to be short. Chubb was really the only guy on offense to play well.
If that is the case, by your definition, Tom Brady has been benched. Peyton Manning. Drew Brees. The list goes on.
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3 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:
Browns offense was on the field. mayfield was on the bench. That is benched. benching is not a permanent condition. But it is a simple fact he was benched in the niners game.
If you truly believe that then you don't know football. He got beat around all night, and down 28 with a minute or minute and a half? Preventing injury and benching are 2 very different things.
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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Moving the goalposts again I see
No. Not even a little. Ignore the last sentence if you want. The rest is still valid.
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2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
QBs fumble. Those are facts. No matter how much process you preach.Notice you ignored Mahomes and Watson interesting
Watson has played 27 games. Mahomes is at 21. Allen is at 16.
All are fumbling at a considerably lesser pace than Allen. Add in INT % and it gets worse.
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1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:
so really he has 4 Fumbles. Not 13 thanks. But if you want to use 13 then fine
QBs have Fumbles. Ask Brady and his 52
or Mahomes and his 11Or Watson and his 16
Brady has been playing 20 years. 20! Allen has 25% the fumbles in like 8% of the games played.
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1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:
This doesn't surprise me 1 bit. Just like it doesn't surprise me that the Bills are 3-0 .
I think the biggest issue is teams had plenty of tape on Baker and all the concerns pre draft are starting to appear in Bakers game now.
Obviously, same goes for tape on Allen , but I just feel he's much more talented and giving defenses headaches on how to attack him . Whereas Baker is a little more cut and dry , in terms of defending him.
Look at Lamar , comes out first 2 games and barely runs , something I'm sure defenses heavily planned for and throws a bunch instead , catching them off guard. I still think he's super limited in the pass game and we'll see the running come back .
Lamar ran 16 times for 120 yards in Week 2.
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16 hours ago, CardinalScotts said:
the have a good morning show on the fan 92.3...today they were in calm down people were gonna be fine
does anyone believe in Buffalo at 3-0 ?....both hosts --- No, god no
I'd love to see the Browns finish 4-12, this we 've arrived bull crap - you haven't done anything and if the Jets had a descent qb when you played them you likely lose that one too
They beat the Jets by 20 points. It's "likely" they lose, huh?
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1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said:
He did make history last by calling a draw play on 4 and 9
That team needs some discipline. Most penalties in the league. Thats on the HC
Yes, they need to reduce penalties, obviously. But being 3 games in, and having 18 in the 1st game skews things a bit. I think they had 6 last night, and 6 or 7 in game 2, so they are "balancing" out. Still too many, but improving.
I honestly think Baker is pressing with trying to get OBJ the ball, and the offense in general is trying too hard for the "big play." If they simplify it down and hit the open man, the offense will improve dramatically. Chubb is the real deal and the running game would be even better if the passing game was a little more competent.
Baker needs to get back to what worked last year and stop trying too hard. They need to run more quick passes with a weaker o line and let the receivers make plays like OBJ did against the Jets.
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6 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:
Landry is badly overrated IMO. He was in a scheme designed for him to shine in Miami, ie the same scheme that made Crowder look like a world beater week 1. He can't make any plays down the field and best case is a much more hyped, much worse version of Edelman.
That offense is Odell and Chubb and that's it. They ignored the oline (they cut their LT before the season and no team stepped in to try to sway him while he was free, which says all you need to know). All flash and zero substance with huge personalities the coach won't be able to control if they don't turn it around QUICK.
They cut Robinson for a day, and he knew they would re-sign him. He isn't great, probably average at best, but the league as a whole is short on tackles. Cutting him allowed them to IR a player who otherwise would have had to go through waivers 1st.
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2 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:
I'm not sure about Sam with Gase running the show at the moment, for that matter, Mayfield either. Both have terrible head coaches
3 games in and Kitchens is terrible? Overreact much?
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9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
It was 2004 so without looking it up I’ll guess Kelly Holcomb?
Jeff Garcia
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46 minutes ago, mykidsdad said:
I saw him pancake his guy and stand over him like he ws rubbing it in. It was a great block, and he was pumped. I don't know what he said, but it seemed like a bogus call to me.
I didn't see the play, but standing over an opponent will get a taunting call must of the time.
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Posted · Edited by cle23
This is like teams running up the score. If you don't want hit, don't run a play. That is on Tomlin, not Cleveland. The tackle on Rudolph wasn't hard, at all. There was more than enough time on the play clock to run out the game clock.
Garrett went way too far with the helmet. Rudolph was just as much at fault up to that point.