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  1. 9 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

     

    We have one loss against the #2 in the nation.... USC lost, so yeah, after the committee trying to get two SEC teams in year after year, they can rot.

     

    The main issue I have is OSU is essentially rewarded for NOT making their conference championship.  And I understand this isn't the first year it's happened.  But teams shouldn't be rewarded for sitting at home.

  2. On 11/24/2022 at 8:26 AM, JaCrispy said:

    And soon the Left wing LGBT cult will allow pedo’s to join their membership…Let that sink in…😉

     

    No.  No they will not.  I am sure there are a few fringe people fighting for that, but there are no major LGBTQ groups fighting to include pedophiles.  Just because people (mostly "conservatives") keep repeating the "What's next, pedophiles/animals/etc?" arguments doesn't mean that it is actually happening.

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  3. 47 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

    Well reasoned response. My sole contention is that people in general do in fact use two words to define it. It’s most commonly referred to as ‘gay marriage’ not ‘marriage’. So to show my sincerity to your hypothetical proposition, yes I’m okay with changing traditional marriage to another word. Again, mine is not a primarily religious position. It’s in essence a linguistic one. Trust me when I say I’m not losing sleep over the matter. I just believe it’d be a more accurate (not right or wrong, nor better or worse…as Chef likes to accuse/imply) use of the language. I’m fully aware that my position goes against the common narrative. But I can also assure you that it’s not coming from a position of hate or ridicule. 
    Thanks for the discussion. 

     

    I honestly think for the longest time it was called "gay marriage" because it was not allowed.  At the time, they were different.    Now, in the eyes of the government, they are not, so I feel there is no need for them to be different.  

     

    I was not accusing you of anything hateful either in response.  People can have differing opinions, I just try to show WHY it may be important to people on the other side of the argument.

  4. On 11/23/2022 at 4:25 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    no it is not dangerous,  there are idiots in every walk of life. Plenty of disgusting humans in religious groups, in Republican Party etc. bad acting individuals are everywhere. 

     

    But it is a hard verifiable fact that liberal lgbtq+ groups have been sympathetic to pedophilia institutionally and within that community there are efforts to normalize the behavior as an innate irrepressible attraction. 
     

    sorry that triggers you into naming a bunch of sleeze-balls as if it alters the fact. 

     

    Many pedophilia groups have tried to incorporate themselves into the LGBTQ community, but that does not mean that the LGBTQ community wants them there.  Most of the pedophilia groups try to get themselves closer so that it will become more normalized, but again, that doesn't mean the LGBTQ groups are accepting of it.  

     

    A vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual in their adult relationships, and those that aren't tend to be uninterested in either adult sexes.  There are obviously some homosexual pedophiles as well, but it is a very small percentage.

  5. On 11/29/2022 at 7:29 PM, SoCal Deek said:

    Sure...it's going to be great when every single word in the English language is properly hyphenated so as not to offend anyone. Yep....that'll be FANTASTIC.

    Because using two words to define something is just a lazy use of the English language.

     

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     - the legally or formally recognized union of two people as partners in a personal relationship

    - the state of being united as spouses in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

    -an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected

     especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities

    -an intimate or close union

     

    Who is using 2 words?  You literally have said multiple times in this thread that we should make a new, separate word for "gay marriage,"  and then in turn also say using 2 words to define something is lazy.  The above definitions all meet and describe any "type" of marriage.  It works for everything.  My wife and I are married.  My brother and his husband are also married.  Our marriages, especially in the eyes of the government, mean the same thing.  

     

    Also, if the word means so much to people in "traditional" marriages, why then do people think it wouldn't mean something to everyone else as well?  Everyone gets married, and everyone is happy with that, except the people who want everyone to have to call it something different.  If it means that little, let's change "traditional" marriage to another word.  Does that work for you?

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  6. 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

    This is because they have no values…all their arguments are based in emotion instead of logic…

     

    I mean, to be fair though, the argument could be made for the opposite as well.  "Conservatives" were in a giant uproar over violation of free speech when they felt they were getting their speech violated, but now are all for it if they approve of the guy who is now in charge of who gets censored.  

     

    I don't think people should get censored, but I also don't think people should have free reign to make threats and spread crazy lies and disinformation intentionally wither.  Fine line on how to handle that though.

  7. 53 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said:

    Time for a raise and a promotion. Well deserved. Hope it’s enough to keep him. 
     

     

     

    He would be dumb to not take it that job if offered.  He has been in Ohio for most of his life, and Cincinnati is a decent team.  Not a complete rebuild, and he would be familiar with their system I would assume following Fickel.

  8. 9 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

    Everyone in the tOSU program should be embarrassed. It’s not just the loss. That happens. But getting physically dominated for the second year in a row is inexcusable. I don’t see how Ryan Day survives this with Luke Fickle just down I71 waiting for the call.

     

    Fickell got beat by Tulane yesterday.

  9. 33 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

    How is that different from the nfl getting together and putting in the salary cap? Im not saying this isn’t collusion or wrong to do I just seriously don’t know how it’s different.

     

    I’ve always thought player contracts should be guaranteed. They made a contract with the player. If they cut the player I think they should still be paid. 

     

    It's different because the salary cap is negotiated with the NFLPA.

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  10. 3 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

    How is this any different than Trump getting his name put on the spring 2020 stimulus checks? 

    In either instance no one directly asked for votes, just different tactics to make it clear who was responsible for the "free" money.

     

    Did any of you right wingers get outraged back then?  However tasteless both times, I don't remember any legal repercussions for Trump, should there be some now for Biden?

     

     

    My favorite part of the Trump stimulus checks is now every Republican I know is blaming Biden for the inflation when Trump had more stimulus money than Biden by far.

     

    Also, student loan forgiveness is stupid.  You took the loan, now pay it back.  I am all for loan reform, and believe it needs to happen, but we can't just forgive debt because we feel like it.  Even if they want to go after predatory loans and make more affordable, I am ok with that, but straight up forgiveness is beyond dumb.  The main issue with loans isn't the loan itself, but the fact that people who otherwise wouldn't qualify for an appliance loan are given hundreds of thousands of dollars just so universities can vastly overcharge for their "services."  The value these schools provide isn't worth a tenth of what they charge.

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  11. 7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


    But to think we don’t need to cut the supply is not looking at the whole picture.  This is the same argument I made when people said “the best way to put the cartel out of business is to legalize marijuana.”   The demand will always be there.  Look at the amount of fentanyl that has been crossing our southern border. 

     

    I agree cutting the supply would help, but how do we do that?  Work at the border could help, but the cartels are multibillion dollar corporations at this point, and they will find other ways in.  Not to say you don't try, but they ship via shipping containers, ports, plane, boat, and tons of other ways.  Hell, Chinese fentanyl sellers are mailing drugs using the USPS.  

  12. 11 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


    Let me ask you a question.  If we cleaned up our prescription drug mess do you think the the Cartel will say “oh well. Might as well sell Tupperware now guys!”  

     

    No, but again, the cartels aren't just showing up and forcing people to take their drugs.  The demand is here, and it started mostly because of prescriptions.  Now it has exploded well past just prescriptions at this point, but that is how it started.  

     

    The cartels sell opioids because that is what the demand is there for, and therefore the money and power that comes with it.  In the 80's the cartels sold mostly cocaine.  Now, there is still a demand for that, but now it has shifted in favor of opioids because that is where the demand is.  I am by no means an expert, but my understanding is that opioids are easier and cheaper to make as well.

  13. 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


    Nope.  This is not your typical supply/demand issue.  It needs to be attacked from both sides.  The cartel is not just going to allow the demand for their products to go away.  I assume you have not done a lot of drugs in your life. 

     

    You are right, I have not.  But the cartel doesn't go door to door and force you to take them.  The medical community has pushed opioids for years and then it caught up to us.  I had major ear surgery at 15, and the doctor refused to let me leave without Oxycodone  Obviously there are other ways to help reduce use, but the main thing is to lessen the demand for the use.  If there are huge numbers of buyers as there are now, the drugs will find their way here.

  14. 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


    There is a word in your post that exemplifies YOUR disingenuous behavior.  I was going to make you guess the word but that would be mean.  That word is “caused”.  No one is saying he’s caused it. That would be absurd. But just as I don’t blame him for inflation I do not blame him for this.  However he’s in the big boy chair and it’s is problem to deal with.  Now I am not saying I expect him, and him alone, to fix it.  But for Christ sake.  Let’s open the conversation and admit our porous border is part of the problem.
     

    It’s seems that many of you have never been hired as a manager to clean up the mess left by your predecessor.  Pointing fingers is not the job of the new leader.  It’s his/her job to roll up their sleeves and get to work. 

     

    My issue isn't with people wanting our leaders to do more.  I think we can all agree that they need and should do more.  The opioid crisis has been largely ignored for years now, with steps taken to help correct the crisis largely being a show more than substance.  The wall doesn't and never was going to work.  Looser immigration policy won't work.  The best way to reduce the opioids coming into the country is the lessen the demand that we as a society and medical community have largely created.  

  15. 1 hour ago, Doc said:

     

    It was disingenous to imply, much less outright say, that Trump caused Wuhan virus.  Yet he got the blame and lost an election over it, thanks in large part to a complicit media, which is now doing their best to shield Joke.

     

    I agree that it would be wrong to blame Trump for CAUSING the virus.  I do think he mishandled it once more information was known, but who knows how each President would have handled it.  I also think his personality and constant blame game and administration issues were the cause of him losing the election, with the handling of the virus a part of that.

     

    I am not a Biden fan.  Gun to my head, if I had to pick between he and Trump, I would probably pick Biden, but I did not vote for either in the past election because I did not feel either was worthy of the office.  

  16. 1 hour ago, B-Man said:

     

    Very disingenuous.  They certainly have become an vastly increased problem recently.

     

     

     

    Annnnnnnnnnnnd.  Back to the thread.

     

     

    Hmmm.

     

    REPORT: Paul Pelosi Seen Opening Door for Police on Body Cam Video as Originally Reported. 

     

    “So why would NBC News scrub an awkward story about the husband of a House Speaker representing an embattled majority in the weeks before a midterm election to determine control of the House?”

     

     

    NBC Bay Area reporter Bigad Shaban claimed Wednesday that police body cam footage supports Almaguer’s initial story, “according to a source familiar with the Pelosi investigation who personally viewed the body camera footage.”

     

    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/body-cam-video-paul-pelosi-attack/3076235/

     

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2022/11/17/report-paul-pelosi-seen-opening-door-for-police-on-body-cam-video-as-originally-reported-n1646664

     

     

     

     

     

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    It is disingenuous to imply that Biden has caused our opioid crisis when opioids have been a crisis for 10+ years.  I am not saying Biden is blameless, but opioids have gotten worse under every President, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and now Biden.  Where were you guys blaming Trump as well?

     

    The issue is that opioids are a growing problem, not which President to blame the problem on.

  17. 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

    Democrats vote by mail at disturbingly high numbers, it's disproportionate. If you can't go to a polling location and show ID then you don't get to vote imo

     

    That is just recently though, not the long term data.  The most recent presidential election, yes, it was much higher in democratic percentage, but that is also going along with a lot of the COVID situation, with democratic voters being much more likely to follow the guidelines.  Hell, Trump encouraged people to ignore the guidelines, and obviously his voters were disproportionately Republicans.  Historically the numbers have been much more even, though they do tend to lean Democrat some.

     

    In 2018, 25% of people voted by mail.  Should we just invalidate 25% of votes then?  

    25 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    Yes because then there is no fraud. If you don't care to go vote then you shouldn't care who wins

     

    You do know that mail in voting started in the Civil War era, right?  But somehow only recently it became "fraudulent."

  18. 30 minutes ago, SCBills said:


    Having 9 House Races undecided, over a week after the election, when leadership position jockeying and orientations are going on is absurd. 
     

    Having almost two months of early voting is a joke.  Over 70% of PA’s votes were in before the debate.  Katie Hobbs never even debated Kari Lake once.  Debates should be mandatory in an election, and no votes should be cast before one has occurred.  
     

    Having a substantial percentage of machines fail on Election Day in a razor thin margin state, causing massive lines and confusion is unacceptable. 
     

    If trust in our elections continues to erode, we will no longer have a functioning country.   If no changes are made, R’s will eventually figure out how to match Dems in legal ballot harvesting, and we will have two months of ballot harvest machinery in play by both sides followed by weeks of sorting out of the votes.  That is absolutely opening up the process to fraud and distrust. 
     

    Our system in a handful of states is currently a joke.  Everyone knows it.  Even you. 
     

     

    I agree with most of what you said, except this: 

     

    "Debates should be mandatory in an election, and no votes should be cast before one has occurred.  "

     

    The debates are pointless.  95% of people have already decided well before the debate who they will vote for, mostly by whatever letter is by their name.  Also, the debates are pointless in the sense that it is all just personal attacks on the other candidate and very, very little actual substance.  I wish there was a rule that you can only speak as to what you plan to accomplish, with no attacks on each other at all.  But that'll never happen as it'll drive down ratings.

    19 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    Voter fraud alert:

    I know people that do this for their entire family (1 person filled it all out democrat for their grandma, grandpa, mom, dad, 2 kids). Their kids have the social skills of a rock and I doubt they can spell democrat let alone care who is running. Grandma and grandpa don't know what day it is. Wife apparently wasn't going to vote, didn't like either choice. Then he bragged that the Dems had 6 votes coming in. Now times that by millions of ballots. If you can't be bothered to go down to the polling station to show ID and vote in person then you shouldn't get a vote. Simple as that

     

     

    This isn't just a Democrat issue though.  It happens on both sides.  And the issue there being that there are millions of legitimate votes that wouldn't get counted if that was the case.

  19. 39 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

    First of all, refrain from calling me names. 

     

    Next, your team sucks. Alabama could have lost 5 games this season with their worst team in many years. Instead, they won 3 of those games, including a road win over your Mississppi team :) .  Otoh, a weak OSU lost 48-0 to a so-so team. Not good.  🤣

    Think what you will about the Big 12.  Tell yourself how good they are, despite the parade of teams leaving it. 

    Dream away. 

     

    To be fair, teams aren't leaving because of the quality, they are leaving for money.

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