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3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
what time is he on mcafee today?
1 pm I believe.
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2 hours ago, benderbender said:
That is the hill they're dying on hopefully. Nothing would please me more than Rodgers trudging back to GB without a deal done after looking so smug in interviews. He's really acting out his Farve trauma by reliving it.
He'd retire before going back to GB.
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3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
"if" he continues downhill? Father Time is undefeated bro...have you been smoking some of that peyote Rodgers has been hitting up?
Obviously over the course of the next five years he's going to go downhill at some point. That doesn't mean after one down year he's suddenly gonna continue to be what he was last year. That's why I had said in the previous post that long term obviously it's Allen over him but next year could be a toss up.
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8 minutes ago, Rico said:
Exactly, Bengals are much more of a problem.
They just win the Super Bowl and somehow the Bengals are more of a problem than the Chiefs?
Plus, rumor of Tunsil to KC as a possibility. That would keep Taylor at RT.
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1 minute ago, Mark80 said:
Hits a little different when that year comes when you are 39 years old.
I would agree more if it wasn't for the fact that Rodgers has been pissed at GB for a couple years, and last year it seemed to come to a head. I may be wrong, but I don't see much of a chance of him dropping off that much 1 year to the next, 39 or not.
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Just now, buffblue said:
Possibly?
Yes. Rodgers had 1 down year. He had won 2 straight MVPs before that, and 4 total. Obviously long term, Allen > Rodgers. If Rodgers continues downhill, then obviously Allen > Rodgers. But Rodgers was a top 2-3 QB in the NFL for 12+ years. 1 down disgruntled year doesn't guarantee he is suddenly trash.
I could see Rodgers playing lights out next year just to prove the Packers wrong.
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44 minutes ago, Malazan said:
oh no, the Jets upgraded from 8th best QB in the AFC East to 3rd best.
I can give you possibly Allen > Rodgers, with even that being debatable, but who else is better in the East?
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12 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
In theory, if the player retires before the end of his current contract, the team can request the repayment of the amortized bonus.
However, depending upon the circumstances, teams don't do this, and I'm not sure how it is viewed if the team amortizes the bonus beyond the real length of the contract into "void years", or if the player agrees to help the team's cap by converting salary to bonus - pretty sure that becomes the team's problem.
And of course, there's the Eric Wood move where the player doesn't retire but "can no longer be cleared to play football" due to injury (or is cut by the team because they can no longer play) in which case, again, the team eats it.
This is an interesting point, but teams routinely get around this by inserting big roster or "option" bonuses that may get converted to signing bonus and amortized further. Pretty sure you know this, just putting the info out there for those who don't.
Signing bonus, yes, they can ask for the money back. But I am pretty sure salary that was converted to a bonus they can't, especially if it was guaranteed salary.
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1 minute ago, balln said:
My question is - why don’t nfl teams just “extend” a player for like 20 years. Makes the cap hit negligible year to year. Certainly will have dead cap for the last 10 years as player no longer w team or even playing in nfl - but by that time the cap limit will assuredly go up. There has to be some kind of rule
If the player retires, it accelerates any bonus money amount to the immediate year. So yeah, you could add $5M a year for 20 years to spread it out, but when the player retires after 10, you'd get $50M upfront onto your cap.
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6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
Seriously? How do you re-structure a fully guaranteed contract without adding years to the deal? The article says they converted salary into a signing bonus, but if it was already fully guaranteed, why would that matter? I want them to choke on that contract, so I hate seeing that there are loopholes available to them. Anyone get how this works?
https://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-browns-restructure-watson-134639003.html
When you covert salary into a bonus, it spreads the bonus out evenly over the remaining years, plus over any added years. So if you convert $30M into a bonus, and you have 4 years remaining, it would lower the 1st year by $22.5M, but add $7.5M to the other 3 years.
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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Everyone knew the Bears were looking to get rid of #1 .....but That's a massive haul Carolina gave up to pick from one of the more mediocre QB classes in a while.
lol, Panthers.
People keep saying its a mediocre QB class, and I don't disagree fully, but how many truly "great" QB classes are there? 2020, and then maybe 2017. Before 2017, I can't find a "great" class in years. All it takes is for Carolina to now select 1 great QB and it doesn't matter. This year was supposed to be the "great" QB class with Young, Stroud, Levis, etc. coming into the year.
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1 hour ago, Victory Formation said:
You don’t think Richardson has potential to be a good passer? I’m shocked! There’s only one way to handle this, I challenge you to a saxophone battle!
JaMarcus Russell had the potential to be a good passer too.
The mere thought of Richardson going 1st is insanity. The dude was average at best in college, and well below average when they played power 5 competition. He has the potential, but who trades that haul for a guy who MAY be good, or equally could be the worst QB taken in the 1st round.
It has to be Stroud or Young, and Stroud scares me too. He is the best pure QB in the draft but he just doesn't seem to have any fire to him at all.
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3 hours ago, White Linen said:
And there's always that guy that can't comprehend math trying to tell it to others. 2 minus 1 is 1.
The total trade package for the 1st pick was 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and Moore. It's simple.
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6 hours ago, The Red King said:
PSA for the day, yelling and insulting does not in any way make you right. We're all being calm, while you're going on like you pounded a Red Bull after dumping ten Pixie Sticks in. Try to keep it civil, please.
That aside, most, if not all of us think there is nothing wrong with Lamar chasing the $$$. Given the Watson deal he's well within his right.
I think we're looking at it wrong. There may well be collusion, but are they colluding against Jackson, or against contracts like Watson's? In other words were it another QB looking for the same contract, would this still be playing out the same way? I believe so. If Jackson were asking for a normal, reasonable contract, would he still be looking for work? Of course not.
The owners are colluding against contracts like Watson's, not against Lamar.
Just grouping up and agreeing not to have contracts like that are colluding all the same. That's the point. You can't have 32 owners get together to discuss contracts between 1 player and 1 team, no matter the players.
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1 minute ago, teef said:
this picture is so great. i imagine him out of breath by the time he gets to the huddle.
Wheezing during his cadence.
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56 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
That's why I keep saying that I think there is more for Allen.
You look at his physique on this offseason trips verses the competition.
Burrow was back in the gym weeks ago.
Paired with what do we even know about whether Allen lifts or not in the offseason.
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12 hours ago, LEBills said:
You don’t draft a blocking TE at 27. Or even day 2. In fact stay away from TE in round 1 all together. When was the last first round TE that was really good for the team that drafted him?….Heath Miller?Kyle Pitts.
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On 2/22/2023 at 7:08 PM, B-Man said:
Biden sets yet another record
JAZZ SHAW
American household debt has reached a level not seen since the beginning of the arrival of the Obama administration in 2008. The average American household is now carrying more than $142,000 in debt, adding up to a whopping $17 trillion across the country. And this is creating a threatening situation for American families, particularly when (not if) we enter the next period of recession.
U.S. household debt jumped to the highest level since the 2008 financial crisis last year as mortgages surged amid high inflation and rising interest rates, according to a new analysis published by WalletHub.
The findings show that household debt – which increased by $320 billion in the final three months of 2022 – hit a 15-year-high of $17 trillion. On average, a typical household owed a total of $142,680 at the end of the year.
“We’re not quite to the breaking point, but U.S. households can’t afford to take on too much more debt, especially if the economy takes a turn for the worse,” said Jill Gonzalez, a WalletHub analyst. “People should be thinking about how to shed debt and get in shape for a recession, not assuming a bit more debt will make no difference.”
If the economy is supposedly undergoing a robust recovery after the pandemic, as White House officials continue to insist, how are people falling this far behind?
One big piece of the puzzle is seen in mortgage debt. That rose by $290 billion last year. The average household owes more than $100,000 on their mortgage.
Credit card debt set another all-time record as well. The total balance on people’s credit cards climbed by $61 billion to $986 billion. That figure is almost $50 billion higher than the previous record that was set just before the pandemic began. People began saving money and paying down their card balances during the pandemic, but that trend has now reversed. This is happening at the worst possible time because the other record that was set was an increase in the average annual percentage rate being charged by credit card companies to 19.14%, the highest figure seen since 1991.
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/02/22/biden-sets-yet-another-record-but-n532445
With interest rates at record lows, tons of people bought new(er) houses. More than during typical years. So of course mortgage debt rose. That's just common sense.
Not saying everything is rainbows and sunshine because it's not, and inflation IS a major problem. Where exactly did all the "free" money come from?
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18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
This is it. I find it interesting that the social safety net seems to be the size of 36 of the 50 states combined, that the people “leading” us have been in office for decades, have historically used insider information and influence peddling to become quite wealthy, and are looked to as architects of future tax law.
This is a shared problem, borne of people generally out of touch with the problems of regular people, and nothing symbolizes it more clearly than the student loan buyout. Joe says $10k, Warren et al says it’s not enough, $50k is a more equitable number.
Meanwhile, a couple making $200k + is saved, and using sone basics planning tools, should be looking at family savings of $20,000 to $30,000 per year at a minimum.
Unfortunately, ours is a consumption society where many people choose immediate gratification over doing some heavy lifting on their own, which in reality, is very light lifting.
The student loan forgiveness thing is the dumbest course of action I've seen in a long time. Are the loans predatory? Absolutely. So force the loans to be restructured to a reasonable situation, penalize the loan companies who intentionally caused the problem to enrich themselves, and then pay what you borrowed back with a reasonable interest situation. The penalties should also pay back the loans that are paid in full, but that were forced to pay way more than a reasonable amount. No student loan for $50K should take $120K to pay back. I was lucky enough to pay mine and my wife's off within 5-6 years of graduation, but we sacrificed a lot in order to do that.
The loan forgiveness is just students and the loan companies benefitting from their dumb decisions, while the country eats it.
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27 minutes ago, Chris farley said:
Feel the same for local jails and first-time criminals. Put them to work. Wake them up early. make them do manual labor like cleaning or community work to both pay back the community and teach them that a normal life with a job is better than prison. cause the next step is usually for them to go from county, to upstate.. Then its over.
Cle23 has a hell of a point. Many on all sides game these systems to create a lifestyle long term vs a safety net for hard times..
The "career" lifestyle was incentivized as well. It was a cheap way to buy votes. And everyone point fingers at the "welfare queen" Democrats, but it's a problem that both sides have taken advantage of for years. No one has the balls to restructure because it WILL cost them votes. There is no simple answer to solve all the problems, but we have to start heading that direction somehow.
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6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
I think you just did. 😉
But…to set up a bunch of ridiculous government programs and then club people over the head for accepting the money that comes from them, has always seemed a bit odd to me. If you don’t want to give ‘red states’ the money…kill the programs.
I think most "welfare" programs need reigned in, but I don't care who they are benefitting more when saying it. I believe our country should provide some kind of safety net for people who fall on hard times, but it shouldn't be a career, no matter which side of the aisle is taking advantage of it.
These programs have morphed over the years into something they were never intended to be, and both Red and Blue are responsible.
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5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:
And you think we should cut them off? I’m not sure where you’re going with this.
Did you not see the other guy claiming that all the Democratic generations bleeding people dry? Just pointing out that overall, that isn't the case. Ask him where he's going with his false info.
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On 1/19/2023 at 9:50 AM, Westside said:
Don’t you mean urban blue cities? Lots of generations bleeding the public dry.
8 of the top 10 states for federal tax deficit are Red. Kentucky takes in $26.6B more per year in federal aid than they pay in. Alabama. Louisiana. Mississippi. All huge deficits.
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On 2/18/2023 at 11:08 AM, SCBills said:
KC didn’t “handle” the Bengals. That was a good game, and a game that was very clearly highly affected by Chris Jones being a game wrecker.
They don’t win that game without Chris Jones, and I’d be willing to bet a lot of Chiefs fans would admit that.
Frank Clark and George Karlaftis aren’t terrorizing Joe Burrow. Just like Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau couldn’t.
You also seem to have ignored the part in my post that addressed the Chiefs making their own luck and, at some point, our excuses fall flat.
I don't understand the point "without Chris Jones. " He's probably their 2nd best player. Obviously without him it would be tough. Same with most teams.
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