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  1. 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


    Cancel game, Bills and Bengals records remain the same....


    *If KC is 13-4, CIN is 12-4, BUF is 12-4:      CIN 1, BUF 2, KC 3
    *If KC is 14-3, BUF is 13-3:             BUF 1, KC 2, CIN 3

    Why? Both BUF and CIN defeated KC
     

     

    Head to head only matters if they are tied though, and they aren't.  You can't penalize KC for a game they weren't even involved in.  There is no great way to fix this, but punishing KC for it isn't the answer either.

     

    They either have to play the game at some point, or figure out an acceptable way to make this as "fair" as possible, which I am not sure there is one.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

    Probably the worst officiated big college game Ive ever seen. Michigan got jobbed on that last call and throughout the game. That was text book targeting by TCU and the officials were too scared to call it.  One question on the TCU 3rd down play  (on their last offensive series) where the receiver caught the slant but missed on getting the first down. If you watch the replay he falls towards the sideline and his hand touches 2 feet into the sideline before the he is down. Doesnt that mean the clock should stop?and he is out of bounds?  and that would mean that Harbaugh doesnt have to take his last TO. Did the officals miss this or is the college rule different from the NFL where this would be out of bounds.

     

    No. His forward progress stopped.

  3. 3 minutes ago, zow2 said:

    Per my son, the only thing that matters in this situation is will Stidham get the ball to Davante Adams for his FF Championship.  Probably a millions other people feel the same.  But yeah, strange move.

     

    They're making sure he doesn't get hurt.  He's a huge liability if they aren't in the playoff hunt.

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  4. Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

    If McDaniels had even a top 15 defense they'd easily be in the playoffs.  This is not Carr's fault. 

     

    Not entirely, but he isn't blameless either.  14 INT's to lead the league, and a $40.5 salary make him very much a liability.  And his worst season besides his rookie year after adding Davante Adams.

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  5. 20 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

     

    Elway is listed as a consultant to the team - you don't have to be in charge to provide advice to the current GM. What position did Elway play ? 

    You don't think it was a group decision to bring Wilson in and sell the farm ? 

     

    And George Patton is not the GM of the Broncos ... 

     

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    The Paton thing was an autocorrect. So yes, George PATON is GM. 

     

    Did they ask Elway? Sure, I'm sure they did.  Your previous article said "Elway would oversee" the trade, and completely left Paton out. He wasn't even mentioned anywhere in the article. 

  6. On 12/26/2022 at 12:08 PM, Roy Hobbs said:

     

    https://twsn.net/2022/12/john-elway-russell-wilson-and-nathaniel-hackett-should-be-all-be-done-in-denver

     

    In section #2 ...

     

    "Elway would oversee a deal that saw quarterback Drew Lock, tight end Noah Fant, 2021 sacks leader Shelby Harris, two first-round, two second-round, and a fifth-round draft pick go to Seattle."

     

    Right. Some random article online, or a reporter who works in the building and has a history of being right. 

     

    George Patton is the GM. He has final roster authority. Per Allbright about 2 hours ago: "John Elway is not in charge, and hasn't been in years."

  7. 52 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

    Kyle Brandt said it best.  He's a poser.  All he cares about is his image.

     

    Which is weird, because he built himself into a superstar QB by being the "chip on the shoulder" style guy.  Short, average build, not super fast, and a guy who was greatly overlooked given his college production. Then lasted until the 3rd round and beat out the next "superstar" QB in Matt Flynn.  

     

    He has completely changed since entering the league, and lost his edge and motivation in the process it seems.

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  8. 16 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said:

     

    Umderstood, but he is still a consultant to the team and had a big influence in bringing in WIlson.

     

    I follow Benjamin Allbright, he is a Broncos reporter and is pretty straight forward.  He said earlier in the season that Elway is rarely even at the facility and has little to no influence on the day to day decisions. 

     

    Several others have reported the same. 

  9. On 12/21/2022 at 1:01 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


    I haven’t been there. But if we are talking about Ohio burgers, not sure how you can beat the Galley Boy from Swenson’s!! 

     

    Blazin Burgers is just 1 location. They had 2 for a couple years but the 2nd location was tiny and apparently they couldn't keep workers. 

     

    I've never tried Swenson's, though it is fairly local. About a half hour drive for me. 

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  10. Local place here in Ohio called Blazin Burgers.  They have one called the Elvis Burger that is on the menu, but only in the restaurant on a marker board "Specials" kind of thing.  Typical burger, but has peanut butter and fried bananas on it with some other things.  Sounds odd, and we went there a dozen times over the years before I worked up the guts to try it, but it's amazing.  They also have a few other burgers that I really enjoy.

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  11. 15 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

    This whole post just has all sorts of wrong going on…

     

    First off, if you aren’t caught up on the concept of ‘intersectionality’, you must have been sleeping under a rock the last 15 years…It’s only the main way that the Left has power in this country- by dividing society up into different groups according to their perceived grievances, and focusing all that bitterness, anger, and resentment at the heart of the civilization…The more the country stays divided, the better for Left- so that they can rebuild a destroyed society in their image and likeness…

     

    Second, there are many different categories of pedo’s/MAPs (Minor Attracted Persons)- just like the Trans community…

     

    Third, the Democrat Party promotes mental illness as part of their platform, so they would love nothing more than to bring more mentally ill people into their ‘big tent’.  One of the main reasons the public schools fail is because the Left believes people are more easy to persuade the less they know how to critically think (ie BillStime).

     

    But, with regards to pedo acceptance in society, you can’t boil a frog by throwing him in a pot of hot water…You have to slowly turn up the heat, over time, like with the Trans agenda…

     

    And you’re wrong about the people who want to put pedo’s in the LGBT community…It’s the organized pedo’s, themselves, lobbying the community…

     

    https://youtu.be/ArOQF4kadHA

     

    Furthermore, everyone has their own opinion for what constitutes harm to others…

     

    And lastly, I never said anything about wanting minority groups to have acceptance…😉

     

     

     

    The "You" at the end of my previous post was more of a general "you" than about you personally.

     

    And to the rest of your post, of course the pedophiles and MAPs or whatever else they want to be called want to be accepted.  They want it to eventually be non criminal, so of course they are trying to lump themselves into other groups that are currently more accepted.  So I should clarify.  The only people that want pedophiles in the LGBTQ community are pedophiles, and people who are against LGBTQ.

     

    Everyone may have an opinion of harm to others, but sexual assault of a minor is a pretty widely accepted version of harm.  No one in any community should be ok with that, and in general people are not.  

     

    As far as the rest of "The Left" garbage you posted, I'm not going down that road.  "The Left" and "The Right" are the same damn thing.  It's as you described, but somehow people don't see it on the larger scale, only on the "opposite" side of themselves.  It is only ever "Them" that causes the problems.

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  12. 9 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

    The best thing about the CFP is knowing that Xichigan will lose. I don't expect the Buckeyes to beat UGA, but I KNOW that UGA can beat Xichigan if TCU can't.

     

    I've run into this a lot lately.  OSU fans are 100% sure that they have a better chance against Georgia.  Like, what has the last 2 seasons shows that says OSU is better than Michigan?  UGA would be favorites against anyone.  What gives OSU a better chance in your mind? 

     

    Also, whereabouts in eastern OH?

  13. 15 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

    First off, not everyone in the LGBT community support eachother…There are many lesbians and gays that don’t support Trans people either, because they might believe it attempts erase woman, or gay people’s sexuality, itself…But they are still part of the same community…They are still an alliance…

     

    And why? Because of the idea of “intersectionality”…This is the concept that says, even if your community disagrees with another, as long as your are both considered marginalized, you are automatically allies against the “oppressors” of society…And because the Cis, white, Christian, male has been deemed the oppressor of society, according to the Left, it makes gays, lesbians, and Trans people automatically allies…

     

    Now, based on that concept of “intersectionality, because Pedo’s (regardless of sexuality) are a marginalized community, too,  I could see Pedo’s eventually added to the LGBT community…It only makes logical sense, based on the Left’s own ideology…😉

     

    No, it doesn't make sense at all.  Should all people with any kind of mental illness be lumped in with psychopathic murderers?  That is the reason pedophiles are different.  They actively hurt other people, and children at that.  There is no consent involved.  Even if you don't agree with gay/bi/trans whatever, you are not forced to accept it.  You can actively choose to not deal with people whom you disagree with for whatever reason.  You can choose to avoid certain people/places/businesses/event, etc if those things promote something you don't like.

     

    Again, the only people wanting to lump pedophiles in with the LGBTQ community are people who are against the LGBTQ community.  It's insane. I am not even some big supporter of LGBTQ, I just feel like people can make their own decisions and should be free to live their life however makes them happy, as long as they don't harm others while doing that.  They should have the same rights as anyone else.  

     

    Just because you want minority groups to have acceptance doesn't mean that ALL groups should have acceptance.  Not ones that actively hurt others.

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  14. 32 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

    Just because most pedo’s are heterosexual doesn’t mean it can’t be added to the LBGT…

     

    29 Years of Fanhood is correct in that the LBGT movement just adds groups that aren’t “traditionally accepted”…So, with pedo’s being a minority movement, all that the LBGT community would have to do is add another letter…

     

    How is it so hard to understand that the LGBTQ community doesn't support pedophilia? You and 29 keep just stating it like inviting a neighbor to the Saturday barbecue.  Just because you invite your 6 closest neighbors doesn't mean you invite the pedophile neighbor too.  I do not know one group that is in the LGBTQ community that in any way shape or form supports pedophilia besides the few fringe groups here and there. 

     

      The only people wanting to include pedophiles in that community are people already against that community.

  15. 6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    Really not shifting any goalposts, just giving other examples of how progressive extremists aren’t going to stop.  Kids aren’t safe either. The slope is quite ***** slippery.

     

    Right, EXTREMISTS.  I can even agree with that.  Extremists won't stop.  But your original comment said "The entire lgbtqia+ movement is about supporting a minority of people, and every time society says… ok fine it’s cool a letter gets added to what needs to be normalized. Sexualization of minors is certainly  next on the roadmap."

     

    That is why I said you keep moving the goalposts.  You went from "The entire movement" to extremists and then are still arguing your point.  The LGBTQ movement does NOT support pedophilia.  A few EXTREMIST groups that want to incorporate themselves into the movement do, such as "MAPS", but they are disgusting and not accepted by the LGBTQ groups.  

     

    Again, this whole thing is simple.  LGBTQ is about accepting and consenting adults.  Any of the other stuff with children is not the same at all because children cannot consent to sexual activities.  

     

    I am all for keeping an eye on the fringe psychos, but it bothers me when people try to lump them in with the everyday normal functioning members of our society.

    4 hours ago, Irv said:

    Dems are pro terror.  Demented Biden traded a murderer for a useless women's basketball player.  What a mess.  

     

    I'll agree that it wasn't a good trade. I think Griner's imprisonment was a sham by Russia, but you don't release a know terrorist back out into the world over it.

     

    What are your thoughts on the 5,000 Taliban released by Trump?

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  16. 17 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    It’s not that much of a stretch. There is this concerted push to redefine civilization in the context of sexuality and attraction as an un-mutable characteristic and gender as amorphous. At the same time there is an effort to redefine the despicable behavior at the center of this as Minor attraction. 
     

     how about instituting laws that require doctors to perform gender reassignment surgery or synthetic hormone therapy on 13 year olds? That’s sick.
     

    Logic has kind of gone by the wayside 

     

    Right, I tend to disagree with children making any life changing decisions when they are CHILDREN.  The same as the with the pedophile situation.  I do not agree with any law that would institute requirements of doctors, and I honestly disagree with performing any such actions while the child is under age.  As an adult, people can do what they want.  But again, the original discussion was that LGBTQ was trying to incorporate pedophiles, and when the discussion shifted to show that by in large that isn't the case, now you keep moving the goalposts.  

     

    I find the whole gender being "fluid" situation very odd and I honestly don't understand it, but if that person is an adult, and wants to be "gendered" as something not of which they were born, more power to them, but they have to live with the consequences that come with it.  I would never attack or discriminate in the sense of their rights, but I honestly probably wouldn't make that person a large part of my personal life either.  

  17. 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    “Progressivism” isn’t about saying ok we finally got there. There is always the next thing to normalize. 

     

    Let's even say that's true.  That doesn't mean people are going to normalize hurting kids.  For whatever reason, people always jump to the "they're going to want to legalize sex with kids and animals" are the 2 I always see, but it's always some made up scenario from people who disagree with LGBTQ, and not anyone that has information to back it up. 

     

    Just because that is somehow your next "logical" step does not mean that would be the next logical step for the people you are talking about. 

  18. 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    Most, many, vast majority… you keep using words that suggest any of these things have anything to do with the majority of people. The entire lgbtqia+ movement is about supporting a minority of people, and every time society says… ok fine it’s cool a letter gets added to what needs to be normalized. Sexualization of minors is certainly  next on the roadmap. 
     

     

    You can't just say " the next thing on the roadmap" anytime you want.  You can literally say that about anything under the sun because it hasn't happened yet.  The next step in protecting QBs in the NFL is putting them in pink tutus on the field.  See how that works?  There will be a very, very tiny portion of the population who does want acceptance for the sexualization of minors, and it won't be accepted, and rightfully so. 

     

    Every single one of the other portions of the LGBTQ groups is between consenting adults.  THAT is the difference.  Sexual activity between adults is fine, and should be fine, however the relation comes to be.  The reason pedophilia is NOT the same is because children cannot, and should not be able to consent to sexual activities.  Again,  most pedophiles AREN'T part of the LGBTQ movement.  They are heterosexual in their adult relationships.  

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