MrEpsYtown

I agree with this. The way to beat the Chiefs is to smash them in the face, rushing 4. Beane seems to be trying to get there.

He is wound pretty tightly physically. And this is not a knock on you at all, but many on this board were banging the table for Tez Johnson near the end of the draft, the soon to be 23 year old who goes 5-9, 154 lbs and his 4.51 forty. It's okay to be a bit smaller when you go 4.35 in speed.

I would even add, in last year's vaunted draft class, who really did that aside from Nabers and BTJ both of whom were out of reach? Those guys are hard to come by. Don't grow on trees.

But his argument is going to be that they used a first on Kincaid, a 2nd on a guard, a 2nd on Coleman, a first on Diggs etc. A ton of money on Allen, Palmer, Shakir, Knox and Samuel and a ton of money on the offensive line. The players they have on the offensive side of the ball have a ton of unrealized upside. Drafting Troy Horton is not making this a Super bowl team. The defense was God awful and slow and had zero upside. He changed all that with 1 draft. I am a Beane hater. I am on his side on this one.

But those pass catchers who let us down were big money #1 Diggs and the first-round pick Kincaid. We certainly need people to step up, but just throwing assets at the position isn't going to fix that. I agree, we need some people to step up. Guys like Coleman, who was a high pick, Shakir, who is being paid like a #1, and Palmer and Samuel, who are being paid a lot as well. To to mention first round pick Kincaid and highly paid TE in Knox. Those guys all have to be better.

That's awesome. And he's right.

I agree. Teams do respect his speed as a he runs a ton of deep comebacks. But his deep game is more digs, posts, and post corners, which to me is more in line with Josh's strengths.

See to me 54% is not primarily a slot. Khalil Shakir at 70% slot snaps is primarily slot IMO. 50/50 means moves around in my world. People see Moore's size and assume he is a slot.

I have been pushing for this move. He's 24 years old and has a chip on his shoulder. He is not a gadget player. He makes a ton of plays in that 20-30 yard range in which Josh Allen feasts and while he isn't a go ball guy exclusively, he can do it. Honestly would love this.

McDermott ran a ton of 4-3 under when he was with Carolina. I suppose it’s possible, but he has been pretty exclusively 4-2-5 since he got here. And yes I think Hoecht could play that wide 9 sam. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/1/12/14236950/sean-mcdermott-buffalo-bills-head-coach-4-3-defense-all-22 That article explains what we thought the defense would like when he came over to Buffalo. The double A gap mug and nickel package is essentially all we do here these days.

It’s a dumb prank from a really dumb generation who trash movie theaters etc. however, if the Sanders crew wasn’t documenting every second of every day no one would even know it happened and the embarrassment of situation could have stayed private. All around everyone is stupid here including the coach who did not secure his device. Just all around, old fashioned stupidity.

I just think you have to watch the film yourself. There are some really interesting things he can do. Additionally, I’m gonna probably side with Pete Prisco’s or Trapasso or whomever’s grade literally on the screen behind this guy who is talking in his mom’s basement.

This is your high floor guy and Hairston is the shoot for the moon. I like the double dip. I think Strong will be CB 3. And long term there are some things you can do with Hairston inside if you want to in nickel and dime stuff with Strong outside. I really like this pick adding you and depth to that room. Way too good to pass up in round 6.

This video he is essentially playing the Anderson role, but he has some upside as a receiver. Ton of split zone, H counter, some iso from fullback, some in line Y, and blocking on the perimeter. This is a really fun piece to have. He does a bit in the video above

Yep it’s that old “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” thing. They don’t even take shots unless you count Márquez Stevenson

Well I assume that the Bills feel like they can coach out his deficiencies, and this is a pure upside play. Thats the part of this that knowledgeable scouting community cannot possibly know. They won’t know what kind of worker the guy is in practice, they can’t know the details of the injury situation. They won’t know what the plan is for fixing the issues in his game. So to me that’s the missing piece. Walker is a very rare body type and typically guys like this haven’t been super successful. Doesn’t mean he can’t. To me this is in some ways similar to taking a shot on a Josh Allen…Walker has huge upside if he hits and I have no problem with that in the 4th round. A fire hydrant can’t move nose tackle is a dime a dozen. A guy who is 6-7, 335 with those movement skills is not. Landon Jackson is a similar upside play as is Maxwell Hairston, TJ Sanders and so was Keon Coleman and Cole Bishop. They all have high upside traits. This team is devoid of high upside talent. If this class fails, we are in trouble, but if it hits, it probably goes a long way towards possibly helping us win a Super Bowl. This is a high ceiling shot over a low floor shot. So to me the variance in opinions on Walker are similar to the reasons the scouting community was so split on Josh Allen. It’s risk reward.

Probably unrealistic, but I would try to pry Alec Pierce away from the Colts. He’s what we need, in the last year of his contract and expendable with Adonai Mitchell sitting around. I don’t think it’s likely, especially now that the draft has concluded. But maybe something like that, some guy on a roster who is expendable.

Agreed. I think your best bet to replace Hollins is Tyrell Shavers. He’s big, he blocks, he can be a really good gunner and he is already here. DJ Turner, a FA is a very good gunner, not sure he is really more interesting than Shavers. It will also be interesting to see who gets released from some of these teams who drafted WR this weekend.

its not great…I would sign Elijah Moore. If you want speed it’s: Elijah Moore Nelson Agholor DJ Chark Kadaroious Toney Anthony Schwartz If you want old guys: Amari Cooper Keenan Allen Allen Robinson Robert Woods OBJ If you want a malcontent who can’t catch: Diontae Johnson If you want a small fast guy who can return: Brandon Powell Deonte Harty

Yeah unless he is absolutely awful, he’s a lock imo.

Yeah I hear that. I think they just punted rather than invest in guys they didn’t love. Not saying it’s right or wrong, but that’s how it feels to me. I’m sure they liked some guys, Beane essentially told us he did not like them as much as the guys he took. Whether he was being genuine or not is another story.

And just to add, and sorry to turn your well thought out post into a WR thread… I think it’s likely they wanted Isaiah Bond, he was probably their guy and it all blew up for them. He’s a perfect fit for the roster in terms of what they need. They seem to like to target specific guys in the draft and they probably were not thrilled with the other WRs they met with. JMO

I could see that. Their evaluations have been pretty inconsistent. I think their view is that they spent a ton on Samuel, Shakir, and Palmer and have a high second round draft pick in Coleman, and while he isn’t on the team, a third on Cooper. In their minds, they are going to try to make it work and in their minds they have spent enough resources on the position. They have essential one spot available at the position and that guy has to play special teams ala Hollins, that’s why I think Shavers has the upper hand. I suppose they did admit they want to add some deep speed, and have yet to do that, unless they feel they did so with Palmer. Sometimes they like to be the smartest guys in the room, and I do think they think they have spent enough on the position.

I just assume that they love Hancock. They knew they would miss out on whomever they did when they took him and they did it anyway. Hawes is not really exciting, but seems like the last TE and they valued that over some of the receivers. At the end of the day it seems like they just didn’t value the WRs in this draft the same way some of us do here.

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