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In the kick off section, his actions do not coint as ending the play and it's a live ball. Not an illegal forward pass, but an illegal forward lateral which can be recovered. But the question is if there is another additional section specifically on "giving yourself up" that would allow them to interpret passing the ball to the ref as giving himself up. Otherwise it's just like creating a tuck rule out of thin air to justify a totally wrong call on the field.

I don't think so, because on a kickoff there's no line of scrimmage. So its not an illegal forward pass, it's an illegal forward lateral. If a running back down field initiates an illegal forward lateral, I believe it would be the defenses ball if they recover. Just may not be able to advance it.

Yeah, the rule stipulates that a kick off is dead if the ball lands in the end zone -- unless it is touched.

The only argument you could make was that by throwing it to the ref it was an act of "giving himself up." Up until that point it could have been a trick play. But throwing it to the ref and walking away from the ball is a pretty clear indication that wasn't faking it.

I mean, they changed the rule a few years ago that if the kickoff lands in the endzone it's not a live ball and an automatic touxhback. I guess the only reason guys are catching it when they intend to take a knee is for practice catching?

Well no, his knee was down, but he got off the ground and leapt for the first down before the contact. He wasn't touched while down. Beasley should have gotten more targets.

They should hire Gregg Williams as HC if the Bills don't make it back to the playoffs next year.

Let us know when you cut him.

Yeah, no. He's a long term project. You either go all in or not at all. If you cut him you absolutely know he'll get a second chance with another team and you wiull be kicking yourself. I agree with doubling down. But it's Josh Allen's passing that needs to be developed. I want him running less, not more. He has the ability to make great throws, let's surround him by guys that get open and catch the ball. He can be a great passer once things slow down a bit more for him and he continues to mature. His brain has to grow into his body.

He did. And I think he has the opportunity to learn from this and grow by leaps and bounds.

Regardless if the ball was batted, three defenders had Josh wrapped up and moving backs, falling on his ass. He that been Singelatary that caught the ball, it certainly would have been ruled "in the grasp." The play should have been ruled a sack. No penalty yards should have been assessed.

McDermott has to commit himself to mastering the offensive side of the ball as well as the defensive side. He needs to develop a killer instinct, and be able to direct the overall management of the Offensive game plan. I'd love to know who called the Frank Gore up the gut play at the end of the first half. If it was Daboll, McD has to veto that in the moment and realize that they have 3 shots at the endzone. Running Gore necessitates spiking the ball, and burns 2 shots. Several other instances where great Head Coaches would instinctively know the strategy needed to go for the jugular. McD needs to grow and learn in that regard.

I think Bills fans are so used to losing that their happy when people get fired. As if that's the best part of the experience.

The exact question was about Allen playing out of character and just throwing the ball up for grabs.

He didn't call out Allen. His quotes are being taking out of context to generate clicks.

An in control player could use that play in in last few seconds of a game. Kind of like the QB throwing it in the dirt. As long as there's a guy "in there area" of the lateral, you could just Chuck the ball out of bounce. Not that I think Josh was thinking that.

No, in a week or two or three they will be training their bodies and trying to improve in order to come back and do it all over again. There's a level of sacrifice that most fans can't comprehend.

Totally disagree. I didn't do squat but sit on my couch watching this game. Those guys have spent their whole lives giving their blood, sweat and tears to play a game that may take decades off of their lives. There's no way you can possible say that a loss means more to you than to them.

Found it on the Bills website. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/sean-mcdermott-we-go-on-in-the-offseason-and-keep-working He was asked if he thought some plays Josh made were out of character from what we've seen since the Patriots game, just throwing it up for grabs ect. I don't find fault with McDermott's answer. I think it was honest, and it didn't come off like he was throwing Josh under the bus. The big headline from his presser that I would have led with is: McDermott says Bills need to convert more TD's and not settle for FG's.

Will do.

Did you watch the comments in context? I haven't yet, but intend to. I have a feeling his words are being taken out of context.

How did the lateral lose the game? It stopped the clock because it prevented him from being tackled in bounds with no time outs.

There's a big difference between criticism and negativity. On the boards, a lot of Bills fan negativity boarders on the extreme.

This is the biggest reason I'm against fan negativity in general. The most emotionaly unbalanced will takes things to such extremes as sending messages to Cody Ford to kill himself after a big loss. It's not ok.

It also stopped the clock and saved 15-20 seconds from running down.