Motorin'

He has 4 years of experience not 3, registering 8, 12, 9.5 and 8 sacks in his first four years.

Nope, me either. but I did vote for "The Tackle."

I really liked the way he graphed the route concepts and then provided the video of the full play. I don't necessarily agree with all of the commentary, but the format is interesting and allowed me to see Josh's footwork, vision and read progressions from a view I haven't been privy to before. I guess my take aways are that I'm a little more concerned now that I have been before with the fluidity of Josh's mechanics in terms of being able to adjust and be ready to hit the right route as it comes open in a quick and decisive manner. His footwork never looked "slow" to me until watching the All 22 perspective and having the route concepts charted out at the moment of the snap like Madden play art. I still believe in Josh, and up to this point assumed that all of his improvements would be in the mental processing of the game. Things still need to slow down for him, and he needs to work on his mechanics and become more fluid. From the All 22 perspective it does look like he's putting himself in position to miss some open throws do to his drop back and foot work simply taking too long and being slightly awkward, resulting in him not being in the right "ready" position to make the throw when it needs to come out. Hoping to see better performance next season. Also open to the possibility that he may take a step backwards before it all comes together.

Since we're making up hypothetical guaranteed options, I'll trade Josh Allen for Clark Kent who will score ever time he has the ball and intercept every pass and fly it back into the enzone for a TD.

I think that's right, but he also has to communicate what to do and not do if the play he called isn't going to work.

Still, that's 70 drops vs. 105 drops over 1000 targets.

That, and the helmet to helmet 2 plays earlier. And the no holding on a half dozen plays I saw Jordan Phillips or Jerry Hughes get tackled. And also, how the hell is it possible intentional grounding when 3 defenders have moving Allen back 5 yards and have him vertical falling on his ass. That's an in the grasp sack if one ever existed.

I bet the Bills can save some money by letting Tre walk and coaxing Chris Watson out of retirement for veteran minimum. Cash to cap baby! Ralph is cheap....

I like Duke, and thought he should have been on the field way early in the year. I don't know if DK makes that catch or not, nobody does. But that's like saying a QB who played 2 games and threw 2 picks is turning the ball over at roughly the same rate as a QB who throws 7 picks in 16 games.

No dawg. Though it's a small sample size, Duke's averaging 10.5 drops per 100. 10.5 - 7 = 3.5 So I was wrong. That 50% more drops. 3.5 / 7 = .5

You realize that's a 30% higher drop rate for Duke, right?

It definitely went forward.

A Safety is the correct call. Not because it was recovered. You can not recover an illegal forward pass. It's a dead ball... It's a safety because the illegal forward pass happened in the end zone. SECTION 29 SAFETY It is a Safety if the spot of enforcement for a foul by the offense is behind its own goal line, or if the ball is dead in possession of a team on or behind its own goal line when the impetus (3-17) comes from the team defending that goal line. I didn't think it was either. I assumed a defense could recover a forward lateral like a fumble. But the NFL rule book says that an illegal forward pass is a dead ball if it hits the ground and results in a 5 yard penalty from the spot of the illegal forward pass.

They weren't. The play is dead bc he threw the ball forward. An illegal forward lateral cannot be recovered or advanced. It is a dead play the moment it hits the ground.

I know nobody really want to hear it, but the kickoff was dead the moment he threw the ball forward. The letter of the law says that anytime a running throws the ball forward it is a dead ball when it hits the ground. Turns out a forward lateral can not be recovered or advances. It's treated like an incomplete pass.

It isn't the same, because the South Carolina player passed the ball backwards. That's a live ball. When a runner passes the ball forward, it's a dead ball when it hits the ground. You can't recover it.

Wow, rewatching that in real time, it's maybe even worse. D-Dawk has no one to block so he does a the slowest 360 spin looking for a blocker and completely whiffs. Side Note: Quinton Spain may have hard the surest tackle of the day for the Bills!

We have a very high level defense. And they need a few more player makers to be elite enough to win a Super Bowl. A 2nd shut down CB, and elite Edge Rusher to take over for Jerry Hughes and a run stuffing OLB to take over for Lorenzo.

It oddly worked in our favor. Because of the better field position they had, they chose to go for it on 4th. Had we punted and stopped them, they would have punted in return and then pinned us deeper. Also, the immediate incompletion to Duke saved the time on the clock that would have been consumed by the punt. Kind of like spiking it on 4th and 27 to kill the clock and save 10 seconds. No, I don't think this is what they were thinking.

I was wondering if it was some of the posters in this thread treating them "like they deserve "

Better when the Texans were getting the ball back then what they would have been after onfe of the biggest bone headed touchdowns in playoff history.

Yeah, Tre White went to the ground. Looked at the ref. The ref blew his whistle and made the hand signal for end of play. Tre White got up and celebrated after the play had been whistled dead.

Is there a section in the rules on what exactly happens on a play when a runner throws a forward lateral? And is there a difference between a forward lateral and a forward pass? Because it seems to me that those are two different plays.

There were idiots there. You can hear them sarcasticly cheering Josh in the video that was posted, and yelling "yeah Bills, 4 for 4!" Mocking the four straight super bowl losses.

Won't happen. The league knew the tv ratings would go down the tubes if the game was 23-0 at that point. That's when the black clad officials stepped out from the shadows and put the leagues interests ahead of the rules.