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Seems like its either that or he all out blitzes like he chose to do against Russel Wilson that cost us the game on that floater he threw to Jeudy that got the P.I. call on Taron. If he just rushed four and played our normal defense we probably win both the Eagles and Broncos games not to mention the 13 seconds game. McD just got an extended contract, he isn't getting fired. His strength is leadership and creating a strong team brotherhood, but he needs support for his game coaching, he falls short there and it's been proven time and time again. Help the guy, don't fire the guy. Get the quality control/game managers in the booth to call the time outs, manage the plays/clock and end of half end of game strategies. He wasn't good at that BEFORE he had to call a defensive play every down, so instead of giving him less to think about we actually put more on his plate. We pride ourselves on developing and supporting our players, lets do it for McD.

Not only is he elite, he and Lamar are the most fun QB's in the world to watch. I think Josh is averaging 30 a game for three years rolling now. I can't imagine us having anyone else, and I'd take him over any QB in the league in a second.

I still think bringing him back for the Jacksonville game cost us a very important roster spot that hurt us pretty badly. He hasn't impacted anything, lets face it, he's very old for that position. He was drafted with AJ Green, JJ Watt, Dareus, Julio Jones, Aaron Williams etc I don't think anyone from that draft class is still competing at a high level and Von is no exception. Beaner went all in to get a superbowl and squeeze one last season out of Von but the guy just has too many miles on him. Can still be a great leader, motivator, and maybe get home on a few 3rd down rushes this year but I don't expect much production

Yup Key to NFL wins= control the trenches, have a good qb. Cannot go far without both of those things.

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i like all announcers that are bills fans. loved kelso and murph, Van (duh), and Brownie has great enthusiasm and knows the team better than anyone so he's good for me too. Eric Wood is awesome in broadcast and mondays on WGR. now i need to figure out how to synch the radio with the tv so i can listen to these guys instead of the TV weenies

I think we were one McD/Frasier 13 seconds blunder away from winning it all two years ago with basically the same squad. You're forgetting Milano/Poyer/Hyde who are all elite players at their positions, and maybe Tre too. These guys are All Pro level when 100% WR's don't win championships, it's QB's and to a lesser extent coaching/gameplanning.

You mean the rookie OC whose offense scored the second most ppg in the league last year? Yeah he's no good.

You don't have to defend yourself to anyone, this is a great thread idea. I will probably lurk and not offer too much but I have a friend who digs into college as deep as anyone and has had some very big years. One thing I've heard from the ultra experienced gamblers is that if you want to bet on the favorite you should bet early. Line movement can be erratic, but generally, favorites are more popular with the public, and so the line tends to move against them after the betting line is opened. This new world of legalized online betting has created a ton of casual bettors who generally don’t consider odds or the point spread too strongly. They simply bet on the favorite as soon as the line is released. Over time, the line tends to move against the favorite, making them a less attractive bet. Conversely, if you like the road underdog it is often worth waiting a few days after the line is released. Generally, the public bets on favorites which leads to line movement in favor of the underdog. One more technique to use if you know which side you like (Bills): decide on a price that works for you and wait to see if the line moves onto your price. If it doesn’t, don’t bet. Here's another thought: Opening line in the morning: Bills – 6 (-110) Fins+6 (-110) Line in the evening: Bills-9 (-110) Fins +9 (-110) This line movement indicates that a lot of money has been placed on the Bills in a short space of time. Although movement does tend to go against the favorite, it is often quite gradual. A big jump like this suggests that the smartest bettors with the most money (or sharps) think that the original line offered by the sportsbook was very good value. If you spot a situation like this, a good move will be to quickly check other sportsbooks to see if the Bills are available anywhere else at -6. Since sportsbooks react to the bets they receive themselves (as opposed to bets received by other sportsbooks) lines move at different speeds in different books. We've seen some pretty big discrepancies just between draft kings, caesars, fan duel etc Dramatic movement over a short period of time indicates big money from clued-in bettors. Gradual movement in one direction indicates public perception and of course sometimes line movement is orchestrated by sportsbooks to entice people to bet on a specific side of the bet because they're too heavily imbalanced. Last thought: If you and someone you trust completely disagree on a bet but are both going to bet it anyway, leave the sportsbooks out of it and just bet each other then whip out the venmo at the end of the game and square up. No sense letting the fat cats take 10% for doing nothing. Also if you don't think Damar Hamlin isn't winning comeback player of the year you're insane. The dude was clinically dead and a year later he's out there hammering ball carriers. Sure Tua had a concussion or two, but for god's sake man our boy came back from the afterlife to win back his starting job. Bet your grandma's pension on that one and take her to Hawaii when you cash out......

Obviously people who clicked on the link. Like you and me.

Agreed. Roger is definitely a weenie and more of a lawyer pawn than an innovative leader but we're stuck with this guy for awhile longer so might as well embrace it.

I think Basham was our most disruptive pass rusher over the last three or four games. You talk like he's a bust, I don't agree at all. Look at his snap counts and production, he's still developing. Also, drafting heavy for Dline the past few years was obviously the right play considering we couldn't put much pressure on Burrow even with their sub par Oline. Our two best Dlinemen are Von and Daquon, then Ed and the rest. We know Von has a lot of miles on him, but rolling the dice for a superbowl run made perfect sense. He won us the KC game with that last minute sack about 2 seconds before Mahomes was gonna find Kelce for the win. This is why we have training camp, the best guys will rise to the top. Our challenge is we have an injury prone DE, Phillips is great inside but also hurt a lot, gotta deal with Ed's 5th year now, on top of Tremaine's situation. Itll work out, we'll be back.

Top 5 NFL offense averaging over 30pts a week for 3 years now. Laid a 10 pt egg at home vs Bengals, is everyone now saying that the primary reason was our receivers weren't skilled enough to get separation? Because from my perspective our guards and tackles were the ones who weren't skilled enough to stop the Bengals average Dline in pass pro AND run game, and our Dline sorely missed DaQuon and an impactful edge rusher. That and our QB had some issues seeing the underneath stuff. Our receivers are just as good as either team that played in the Superbowl. They each had one stud in Kelce and AJ but that's about it. The Bengals have the best trio of pass catchers in the league and they got held to 20 by a mediocre KC defense because they couldn't win the trench battle. Its all about the big boy play. Keep adding to the trenches, get big nasty agile athletes in there. The fact that we've been doing that with limited success in recent years is all the more reason to keep at it until we get it right.

Yeah I've said this before but the two guys that had the best training camp as pass catchers were Crowder and Morris at TE/Hback. Crowder was limited with that injury but when he was cleared to practice the dude looked like the #1 WR that he was in the past. Honestly Morris with another year can be a huge weapon too if you notice he can fly and catch. I think a lot of the concern about targets isn't that we need another guy, we just need our guys to be healthy and ready to go, and we need Dorsey to get real serious with Josh in the offseason and study the film which will help Josh look to other guys like Shakir, Cook (our only big play YAC guy who never gets thrown to for some reason) etc. We score an average of 30 points a game for 3 years now, and even though we sucked vs Cinci with a lame 10pt effort, I don't think the film will show it was from WR's not getting separation. It's going to be trench players AGAIN being the weak link on both sides of the ball, and a rookie OC who probably was in over his head trying to live up to Daboll's gamecalling success.

I agree but I would ride with Dorsey another year. We scored second highest points in the NFL, he was a rookie coach, give him 1 offseason and year 2 to upgrade his system.