Jrb1979

Its crazy how much its built up around the park. The funny thing is Kings Island is a sister park and its still out in the boonies

If you're in Toronto, Canada's Wonderland is a must do. They just opened a new coaster too.

Maybe I am wording it wrong. You can be a fan of hockey but if you only watch your team you obviously not a big fan of the sport if you don't watch when the important part of the season is going on. A lot of Bills fans seem to be like that too. They are big Bills fans but tune out the rest of the league when the Bills aren't playing. They may like football but not enough to watch the NFL as a whole.

I am only talking about the NHL. In my case I am a fan of the Sabres but I am a fan of hockey and the NHL as a whole. In the U.S. there is not enough fans of the league and hockey as a whole. Thats what I mean when I say a lot aren't fans of hockey. Its one thing to watch your team play. But when some of the best hockey of the season is being played and you aren't watching means you really aren't a fan of the NHL or hockey.

It is not short sighted. There is a big distinction in being a fan of hockey and being a fan of your team. To me its more that you may like the sport of hockey but not enough to watch it other then your team. That will always be a problem the NHL will never be able to solve. Too many Americans will watch their home team but don't like hockey enough to watch any other game in the League. It really is a shame as some of the best played hockey is playoff hockey but most have no interest in watching it.

Ratings for hockey will never be good. Americans either don't like hockey or like a lot of people in this thread, are only fans of their team and not actual fans of hockey. At this point I don't think anything will change that. IMO one of the reasons is I think a lot of Americans find it too fast for them. If you look at the other major sports in the U.S. they are all slow paced and you don't have to be constantly tuned into the action.

Tailgating as most of you know it is going to be going to way of the dinosaur. It may only be a small % that are belligerent and act like idiots but they have ruined it for everyone else. That is why they will move to a downtown stadium with a small tailgating area and higher ticket prices to push those people that just want to get drunk and slam tables out.

That to me is sad. A lot of Americans are missing out on how good hockey is.

Its their fans is the reason I don't like the leafs. I have been to quite a few Leafs Sabres games in Buffalo and the Leafs that go to those games are the worst. I have heard in most visiting rinks Leaf fans are some of the worst. The last Leaf game in Buffalo I went to I had beer dumped on me a couple of times cause I was wearing my Sabres jersey. The worst part is when they lost a lot of the Leaf fans threw their beer on the ice.

I hope the Bruins win the next 2. The quicker the Leafs are out the better. The have some of the most obnoxious fans in the league. The so called fans in the platinum section can't even be in their seats for beginning of each period.

The lack of primetime games could also be a trade off for having less december home games. I think its the league's way of saying get a new stadium.

Non stop action is what makes hockey a better sport. Just wish more Americans would embrace it.

Why do you say the playoff format is the worst in sports? I wish they would get rid of the wild card and make it top 4 in the division make the playoffs.

There is always the NHL playoffs to tie you guys over til the draft. The Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy to win and the hockey is really good.

It amazes me how so many of you want to put lipstick on a pig. A new stadium is inevitable. Ticket prices will for sure go up. It will probably be inline with what the Browns pay. Their PSL start at $250 for upper level to $6500 for field level.

I think being priced out is the biggest reason a lot of people don't want a new stadium. For some that might happen but IMO tickets will eventually rise to be closer to the league average.

I agree with that. It seems you are in the minority. As far as having a domed stadium and upgraded amenities, its cause of the advances in tv. A lot of people find it better to sit at home and watch the game. Teams are finding that they have to make the game more of an experience. Tailgating isn't the draw anymore. A good example of a great stadium is Progressive field in Cleveland. It has a kids play area, lots of craft beer options, a bar area that overlooks the field. When they build the new stadium they should keep those kind of things in mind.

You know that and I know that. It seems that a lot of the posters here are older fans and don't like change.

An indoor stadium would be the best for the Bills. You would get a lot more people coming out to december games. From reading this thread and others it seems its an older fan base that posts here. A lot of you hate change. A downtown domed stadium would be great IMO. With all the bars and restaurants downtown now who needs tailgating. They have better beer at the bars over the Blue and Genny that most seem to love.

I can see them getting rid of private lots with a move downtown. Police their lots heavily to curb the crazy stuff.

I have never seen a fan base that gets so upset over a player bad mouthing their team. Its only a game, if it upsets you this much maybe some of you need to step away from the Bills.

Why does that matter. He doesn't play for the Bills. I am sorry but this mentality that players have to be nice guys is over rated. I would take an elite WR like Antonio Brown over a guy like foster any day. Talent trumps blue collar nice guys.

^this guy. ? A big BILLiever in the hype. A bunch of #2 and #3 WRs isn't going to get it done. It remains to be seen if these moves will work out. Almost all of them have had injuries in the last 2 seasons. But you keep buying what they are selling.

While that is true and I love how downtown has changed for the better, IMO the stadium doesn't help or the fanbase either. IMO the stadium and a lot of the older fans of the Bills scream Blue Collar. A downtown stadium similar to the one in Atlanta would help the Bills get rid of the Blue Collar stigma. As far as the fanbase goes, you really need to drop the whole bring your lunchpail to work type players to play for the Bills. This past week how many of you kept saying that you don't want guys like Odell Beckham or Antonio Brown cause they are Divas and don't fit the Bills mold. Sometimes you need those diva elite WR to get you over the top. Blue Collar doesn't win much in this league and the Bills need to lose that.

I can understand why players don't want to play for Buffalo. A lot of the fanbase gives off this blue collar vibe to the city. If I am a young guy that likes to party, a blue collar city is the last place I want to live. If they ever build a downtown stadium that would help things a lot. They have really built up the night life downtown.