ShakAttack

Honestly I just want to get an update on Tre’Davious. He’s the only one of these names that has been making an impact. He essentially has made 2 game winning plays for us.... and doesn’t even play on offense. Only great defenders do that. Ray Lewis, ed Reed, Khalil Mack, von Miller... and he’s making less rookie mistakes the more experience he gets. We need him. Even against the colts. And I hope Gronk breaks his leg in 2 weeks

When do we typically find out more about players in concussion protocol if they are likely to play? Wednesday? Thursday?

Maybe I am in the minority but I am at the point where I just want the playoff drought to end and I really do not care about what happens after that. We obviously are not good enough to do anything in the playoffs, but the feeling that would come with ending this insanely long playoff drought would probably the best moment of my life as a Bills fan.

So many possibilities & scenarios in this draft. I can't even decide on the outcome I would like the most (assuming we end up with two first round draft picks in the 12-18 range which is what I think they will be) But I think I'd be with you as far as not wanting to give up all of these picks to get a QB. I think if we only had 1-2 needs outside of QB, I'd go for it, but we need a lot more than that and if we bundled all of our picks to trade up for one of the top 3 QBs, we would just set him up to fail. At the same time, I am torn. We do REALLY need a legit first round talent at QB which we literally have not had since Jim Kelly (or Drew Bledsoe if you include trades). We've spent a 10th overall pick on a 3rd round QB (Rob Johnson), we spent another first round pick on a raw but "high upside" QB that most teams had in the 2nd round or later (JP Losman) and then there was EJ Manuel who definitely would not have been drafted in the first round if not for the Bills being so desperate for a QB in the worst possible draft to NEED a QB. So I would be very excited if we finally got a LEGIT first round QB for the first time since Jim Kelly, but if we are going to start him right away, he is going to need some help and if we have to trade away our abundance of draft picks to get that QB, that could be a serious problem. As usual, when we get to April/May, I'm going to be thinking "I wish we tanked after all"... But at the same time, even if we did a proper tank, Cleveland would still have us beat.

This is just to comment on something I find bizarre. This year, it seems nearly all of our players that get hurt are going down with some minor knee injury. And most of them are receivers, but on Sunday that obviously extended to our QB. Two years ago, the team was plagued by hamstring injuries, and it was all our running backs which is why we started bringing guys in off the street like Boom Herron etc. Seems all our injuries are always stacked at one position each year and then it's the same type of injury... you can't make that stuff up. Speaking of things you can't make up. Is anyone else a bit annoyed that suddenly Watkins & "Glass" Goodwin are able to play a full season?? I know the season is not over yet, but it appears that is going to happen. Not as much surprised about Sammy, as I believe he was genuinely healthy during the off-season and that's a big part of the reason I was completely annoyed by A) not picking up his option and B) trading him away, but HOW IN THE WORLD HAS GOODWIN AVOIDED INJURY!?!? Oh, and one other thing that ALWAYS seems to happen................ Every time we are in the hunt with New England up next, we know they are going to beat us, but they never just beat us; they pretty much finish our season in the process. Seems every time we play the Pats in this scenario we come out of the game with significant injuries. I do not have specific examples before this season, well, except for that other cheap shot on JP Losman courtesy of Vince Wilfork that happened many years ago when he was actually having a decent season and he was coming off a couple encouraging performances.

I don’t know about that. Have seen a lot of players in concussion protocol get cleared by the next game, but knowing our luck you’re probably right. Whether you want to tank or not the injury still pisses me off because white’s rookie season was one of the few positives we’ve had and I wanted to see what he could do in a full 16 game season. not that it matters to the pats (cause they’ll win anyway) but Gronk should have to miss as much time as White does at the VERY least. I’d even say he should be suspended 3-4 weeks because the nfl needs to make it clear that stuff is unacceptable and on a side note what a damn baby. Your team is up 23-3 late in the 4th quarter and you have 150 yards receiving. Disgusting

You don't get it? Are you new to being a Bills fan? But anyway, we have literally been the worst team in the NFL over the past 3 weeks and that is who we are right now (not to mention the utter disarray that we unnecessarily created on top of it all and finding out that our HC is insanely pig headed)

When we were 5-2 i think most of us did not think this season could possibly turn as badly as 2011...... but boy we were wrong.

If only Bills fans would actually stop showing up to the games. How many times is the mgmt going to screw us over. As soon as you think there's nothing more they could do, the next week's surprise is revealed...

Nobody has screwed over Bills fans as much as Mcdermott and Beane. I am disgusted and at a loss for words. How can they keep trotting this kid back out there after every pick? They're even ruining his chances to be a backup in this league. I guess everyone else knew better than the "professionals" we hired and paid to run this team.

Hold on now... they've always treated Shady as "one of their own" at least. O wait...that's probably cause he came from Philly.... the other Mcdermott tie.

When it comes to the LA Rams, the only thing I think about or care about is how they have proven that Woods & watkins (especially Woods) were good picks at receiver that would have been good enough to build a passing offense around as was intended when they were drafted in consecutive years.................... if we ever had a decent QB. Robert Woods was the most polished & well-rounded receiver we had drafted since Eric Moulds and he went to complete waste. Sickening And I've also come to realize that part of the reason our receivers kept getting hurt in Buffalo probably has something to do with how our QBs frequently throw passes to our receivers with a defender positioned to lay the smackdown right after they catch it.

Jets Panthers Broncos Falcons Bengals Bucs Raiders Jets or Saints Chargers Chiefs Pats Colts Dolphins Pats Dolphins There are 4 teams in the second half of our schedule playing better football right now than anyone we played in the first part of our schedule. Had to think a little about Panthers, but they've been more inconsistent over the past 4-5 wks than Saints, KC and NE. So I don't know if that formula is supposed to imply this will be easy, but if 5-3 wasn't surprising enough in the first half, it's going to take an even bigger surprise to do it again in the second half.

This. How many times have we been through this since 2008? It has become a sick joke. When we started to get props from the media during both Rex years and now this year I'm conditioned to think "NO! Please don't start that!" because just as soon as we start getting props and respect... is when the Bills fall apart. It NEVER fails. I was even telling my friend how 90% of the pre-game talk on NFL network was about the Bills, as if the Jets did not exist and were not the home team. Now we are back to where we are every other season at this point. It's going to start with "relax - we're still 5-3" and soon we are going to see the playoff scenario threads with all the homers buying in each week until we are mathmatically eliminated and once again, somewhere between 7-9 and 8-8 when it's all said and done. Until the Bills finally break this trend, I have no reason to believe any different. Sad thing is, this team did feel a bit different, really did.. and they ALMOST had me thinking playoffs were a real possibility. I did not think that way when we were at 4-2 last season or the season before that, but it did seem like this was a Bills team that was finding ways to win, instead of ways to lose, and not beating themselves the ways we are used to seeing them beat themselves. ...and then Thursday night football happened. Hopefully it was just that, Thursday night football.... but I doubt it... it's probably the beginning of our usual collapse after playing jets at 5-2

Well, the silver lining for me is, normally past the midway point we are missing several key players which contributes to our meltdown, but now we go into the Saints game probably getting Gaines and Clay back with a huge bonus in KB. Now, let's see how much that matters. Won't matter at all if Jets just put out the recipe for how to exploit our oline. Just like they gave everyone the formula to beat our spread offense in 2011 (and we never adjusted)

The part that bothers me the most... since 2004 we have had at least a few pretty good teams and post-season opportunities. Along the way we pull off some upsets and then get to the critical but relatively easy game in our schedule and EVERY TIME we lose. We see other hot teams take care of lesser opponents en route to the playoffs all the time, but the Bills can never do it. How did Miami sneak into the playoffs last season? They won every game they were supposed to win down the stretch. Sometimes it was ugly, but they did it. One of many examples. I'd like to see us do this just once! I thought this would be the season because we played as a team and seemed to have a certain discipline that the other Bills teams did not have. Not to mention, we came into this game relatively healthy compared to previous weeks while the Jets were supposedly banged up. But we were annihilated. It wasn't even the 2017 Bills out there today. Hopefully it was a case of another sloppy TNF performance, more than a representation of who we really are as a team.

Hopefully we start to approach away games the same way we do home games. This is a completely different team at home and obviously teams are generally better at home but the difference should not be as significant as it is here

Well it matters towards our record. I know that AFC games are more important but this season 10-6 would probably get us in the playoffs without worrying about tie breakers, as hard as it'll be to get there. Now, if we go 9-7 we will likely be among a few teams fighting for the last playoff spot so yeah those division and conference records will be significant. But the other reason I feel next wk is a must win is because a 2 game losing streak is just bad for the morale of this team especially after what they had been building towards prior to tonights game. Next thing you know we are on a downward spiral just like 2011

That was the "easy" part of our schedule, I'm afraid. Just turned Saints into a must win game.

Up until the jets game nobody really had an answer for gailey's spread offense. Rex Ryan came up with the recipe to shut it down by pressing the receivers and the quick pass game that fitz and gailey relied on to win would never work again. The rest of the NFL forced the bills offense to adjust and they could not. I do not blame that on coaching as much as fitz' limitations and the fact that there was hardly any talent on offense especially when Freddy got hurt. I mean, we talk about a lack of talent now but I would argue that roster was even less talented on offense.

All I know is that I'd feel a LOT better about this team and its chances if our receivers were on par with 90% of the NFL. I'm sure I am not alone on that. Hopefully Zay Jones has a breakthrough after the bye and plays up to his talent, Jordan Matthews stays healthy and one of the other receivers will take advantage of the fact they are getting more of an opportunity in Buffalo than they would anywhere else. There is a lot to like about our defense, but we need to have a passing game and I may be in the minority but I actually believe Tyrod has a chance at being a pretty good QB if he could actually get good play and continuity out of his receivers. Derek Carr has to be the prime example here. He's been throwing to Crabtree and Cooper for 3 years now and they might have missed 1 game between them? This is why he makes those throws into coverage that we all want Tyrod to make. You need to know your receivers and their in-game tendencies first. I don't believe it's Tyrods fault, I believe it is because he has not had the opportunity to establish chemistry with any one receiver on this roster since becoming our starting QB. In 2015, he and Sammy were starting to click and it was a thing of beauty, but they never had a chance to build on that. When Sammy was out, Tyrod and Robert woods finally started to get it going and Woods had the huge game on MNF against Seattle..... and then he gets hurt. But anyway, that is most of the reason behind my pessimism towards the Bills. And I want to believe that playing "weaker" defenses in the coming weeks will benefit our passing game like people are suggesting. But I'll have to see it to believe it. Yes, Starting with Tampa Bay...

Listen, all week I kept hearing about how we are approaching the "easy" part of our schedule, and a lot of folks making that claim put emphasis on the Bucs & Raider games. All I'm saying is that is no longer the case with the Raider game, not at all. With their backs against the wall, they just beat the team that many considered the best in the NFL. Maybe I should have re-phrased it, but my point was this... The Oakland Raider team that most people expected them to be going into 2017.... is back.

Maybe I should have mentioned that I live in Oakland, so I hold the Bills-Raiders matchups a little closer to heart than most probably do and our teams were in the same boat for 10+ years so I am admittedly envious of their franchise turning it around while we remain in mediocrity. But as far as your smart bills fan comment, are you implying that the "smart fans" are all the homers that convince themselves the Bills are going to win every single week? As if they hadn't followed the team once in the past 16 years? Or whatever number we are on; I've honestly lost count. I am a frustrated Bills fan, and that's completely reasonable

Well... looks like Oakland is back to being an L Tonight's game epitomized how raiders kept winning last season. And it also emphasized how important it is to have receivers that actually have talent in the 4th quarter of a game. The Bills are an overachieving team that has to count on their opponents screwing up to win games. The Raiders are back on a mission and the east coast factor is no longer even an advantage for us when they have extreme momentum and extra rest going in their favor Oh and did I mention they have hardly any injuries? Probably biggest advantage of all. Carr might still be "recovering" but he just threw for 400 including a game winning drive so he's fine

I think we did play him when he was with Titans, but I guess I'd have to double check. Thought it was Titans, Texans, Jets... and Bucs would be the 4th if I'm right EDIT- You are right he did not play the Bills while being a titan..bummer the "IF YOU CARE ABOUT ME PLAY HARD FOR ME" pre-game speech in his first appearance against the Bills was indeed as a Texan