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I can see where you're coming from, and I agree with you about many fans changing their tunes after the fact. However, my point is that the people who make personnel decisions do so without regard to fans' opinions -- or should make them without to regard to fans' opinions. With the Bills, I'm not sure that's true. Since Russ Brandon was handed control of the team in 2006, the Bills have frequently made personnel decisions based on how those moves would impact ticket sales. I think the signing of Mario Williams and drafting EJ Manuel (from a simply terrible QB draft class from top to bottom) were both examples of that. I think that Brandon's sticky fingerprints remain all over the current Bills team even after he was fired. Neither McDermott nor Beane would have even been considered without having Brandon's prior approval.

Totally agree. I think McDermott is a good game day HC, and his judgement of defensive talent is pretty good. On the offensive side, however, he simply sucks at talent evaluation of both coaches and players. Saying that Daboll is better than Dennison is simply saying one's noxious crap and the other's slightly less noxious smelling crap. That the Bills drafted a first round QB but didn't bother to upgrade the QB coach demonstrates how little McDermott cares about the offensive side or about developing his rookie QB. Hell, the Bills didn't even get around to bringing in a bonafide veteran QB until five weeks into the season when Peterman utterly failed as the starter in the season opener. Essentially, McDermott and his henchman Beane are pretty much expecting Allen to sink or swim on his own. I don't expect the Bills to seriously improve the team around him either because they'll use the excuse that they have so many holes on defense and special teams, which in McDermott's universe, are infinitely more important than the offense. I don't we'll see much on offense in the offseason. McDermott doesn't care about the offense, and even if he decided for some reason to go on an offensive FA spending spree, I don't think that any first rate offensive players (nor many second rate ones, either) will be willing to come to the Bills because of McDermott's Neanderthal offensive philosophy.

Why is it "bizarre" for the Raiders but not for the Bills? McDermott calls the shots while Beane does his bidding.

Do you watch any NFL football games other than the crappy ones the Bills play? Have you bothered to watch Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, or Josh Rosen actually play? Have you even bothered to watch their highlights? Did you bother to watch CJ Beathard, a third round rookie QB drafted in 2017 who has only a few more starts than Allen, play in MNF? He threw 2 -- count 'em, 2! -- TDs to Bills reject Marquise Goodwin, and his team almost beat the Packers in Lambeau. Allen has a long, long way to go to reach the level of his peers, and I doubt that the current Bills regime is even capable of developing a young QB -- or any offensive player actually.

^^^ Of course reddogblitz is serious. According to the Bills faithful cheerleaders, any player that the Bills sent packing or that the Bills passed on in the draft to take another "project" is trash unless his team wins every out, even when the current Bills roster is filled with scrubs like it is this season because we all know that "next year the Bills have X $$$ for FAs and X draft picks" and the Bills will load up on superstars and win the SB.

Absolutely. Woods is not only talented, he's a gamer. Who, exactly, did you consult to determine "everyone said the Rams gave him too much"? The Pegulas? Russ Brandon? Jim Overdorf? Doug Whaley? Sean McDermott? More importantly, why do you care so much about saving the Pegulas a few millions by replacing quality players with trash players just to save some $? It's not like the Bills are giving fans a break on tickets because they put a crappy product on the field. I am so damn sick of seeing players whom the Bills (and their loyal cheerleaders) didn't think were "worth the money" going to other teams and flourishing. This isn't something that just started with McDermott and Beane, but has been going on for decades, especially under Russ Brandon's rule. That's the foundation of the real "Bills culture": money over talent. That's why McDermott is the Bills HC with control over personnel except where various Bills FO bean-counters have a say and Beane is subservient to McDermott. What's there to be positive about with the Bills in 2018? The offense is even more offensively bad than usual even when Allen was healthy. The vaunted defense may be great statistically but it's just as unable to come up with big stops/turnovers late in games when needed to secure wins as the crappy Ds that Rex Ryan fielded. For all the hype about emphasizing ST skills that McDermott spews, the Bills ST are more liabilities than assets. How the hell is any of this all that different than the previous 2 decades of Bills ineptitude? Boring, unwatchable, ineffective offense. Unclutch defense. Crappy ST. Same old Bills.

Wood and Goodwin also didn't buy into "the Process" which they apparently demonstrated by simply wanting to be paid market rate for young veteran WRs with their talent level.

It's NOT about just adding offensive players. It's about evaluating offensive talent so that you pick/pursue the right offensive players to fit your team's offensive philosophy and needs. That presupposes that the people/person in charge have a viable offensive philosophy. McDermott doesn't. He doesn't value or believe in building a good offense, just one that won't lose games for his defense. That's a losing philosophy in the modern NFL where teams need to have at least some kind of passing offense in order to have any real chance of success.

It's actually not even Nate Peterman's fault that he keeps sucking. He would certainly like to be a whole lot better, but he just doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, and the Bills coaches refuse to accept that. He should be a practice squad player or the third QB on the active roster, not the starter or the primary backup. The cluelessness of McDermott and Company about offensive football in general and QBs in particular is simply beyond belief.

Except that you are upset. You may no longer get "upset anymore" by the crappy teams that the Bills continue to put on the field year after year, but you obviously get "upset" with posters who still care enough about the team to complain about it. Why is that? My guess is that you're a "my way or the highway" kind of guy just like McDermott: because you're good with the Bills playing crappy, everybody else should be okay with it, too -- or they should just "shut up".

The Pegulas need to do this, or this team will continue to be a disaster for a whole lot more than just 4 years. They will never become a top echelon team as long as McDermott is HC because of his lack of interest/knowledge of offensive football, but if he's allowed to continue to mismanage player personnel as he has for the last 2 years, it will take 4 or 5 years after he's gone just to bring the team talent, especially on the offensive side, up to the NFL average.

This has always been my take on him, too. I would add Bortles into that same group, and maybe Winston, too. They are just good enough that their teams can not afford to let them walk, but they always come up short in actual games.

Peterman should not have been the Bills backup last season or this one because he was absolutely not ready to play. Maybe he shouldn't have even been drafted as high as he was since he lacks an NFL caliber arm. Maybe if he was afforded time to learn the nuances of pro football and been introduced slowly into game action (as in garbage time), he might have eventually figured out how to compensate for his physical shortcomings and become a modest backup QB. Now, I don't think he has any chance of doing that at all simply because McDermott had the need to "prove" that he was right about whatever stupid point he was trying to make ("football character" trumps talent perhaps?) by throwing Peterman into the fire.

I have questioned McDermott and Beane's competence about anything to do with offensive football since last TC when, after letting Woods and Goodwin walk in FA, they traded away Watkins, too, essentially stripping the offense of all its NFL caliber WRs and all its ability to stretch the field. At this time (even before Sunday's game), I have become convinced that McDermott not only doesn't care about offensive football but that he views it as a necessary evil, most especially that new-fangled invention called the forward pass. He apparently thinks to resurrect the 2005 Bears that went to the playoffs with a great defense, a great running game, and a rookie QB ... or maybe he wants to resurrect the 1973 Bills that rode rookie QB Joe Ferguson feeding OJ Simpson the ball on nearly every play (to the tune of 2003 rushing yards for OJ) to a 9-5 record. Whatever the motivation, McDermott and his henchman Beane are clueless about how to build a modern NFL offense. They don't value offensive football, and moreover, McDermott seems to be more interested in players' character or attitude than in their talent. Sorry, Sean, but work ethic and "buying into" your outmoded offensive philosophy do NOT trump talent.

I'm not shocked. I'm angry that McDermott and Beane spent so much on a first round QB and then set him up to fail by doing just about everything they could possibly do to insure he fails. If you go out and buy a brand new shiny Mustang, are you going to park it out on a narrow side street or are you going to protect your investment by renting a garage?

McDermott took over pretty much total control over personnel since before the 2017 draft. I believe when he was hired, he was supposed to share personnel selection with Whaley (that's sort of how it worked since Whaley was hired). Sometime between his hiring and the draft, McDermott won the power struggle, and Whaley was essentially a lame duck for the 2017 draft, being fired the next day. The FAs the Bills picked up before the 2017 draft generally have the "feel" of Whaley and the "old" Bills scouts ... bargain priced FAs who played pretty well. Think Hyde, Poyer, E Gaines (whom the Bills didn't bother to re-sign but who is playing decently for his new team). Even Ducasse wasn't a bad pick up since he was added to be depth at the G position behind Miller. The 2017 draft was McDermott's with apparently input from some of his pals already on board. The 2018 FAs and draft class belong to McDermott and the new scouts who were mostly refugees from Carolina. Beane is not a personnel guy, so I think he's the one charge with actually making the deals and dotting is and crossing ts for McDermott rather than deciding which players to bring in or send packing.

Minor point, but the Carpies also won that game ...

I never had any faith in the Carolina crew. It's not like Carolina has won 5 Super Bowls in this century ... or any other century, either.

The whole front office and coaching staff don't look really bad. They are really bad ... just like they've been again and again over the decades. In fact, if I didn't know it was 2018, I'd swear it was 2001 or 1985 or 1971 or 1968. 2018 has the feel of being about as bad as any of those.

Given McDermott and Beane and their scouts' wondrous ability to judge offensive talent, I doubt that those "wholesale changes to the offense" will result in significant improvement in offensive performance, especially since McDermott, Daboll, Castillo, Robiskie, and the rest of the current offensive coaches are still here. Swapping out stinky crap for slightly less stinky crap doesn't change any of it into treasure.

To watch a generally non-competitive team get a lucky ugly win once a month if they're lucky? ROTFLMAO. The Sabres used to be the hottest ticket in town, but the Pegulas fixed that pretty well.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. The reason that the Bills "are lacking on the offensive side" is because the HC is clueless about evaluating offensive talent -- both of players and of coaches.

If you don't like what the poster has to say, then put him on "ignore". This isn't a "No criticism of McDermott and Company Zone" no matter how much you and your fellow cheerleaders try to turn it into one.

Since McDermott is really in charge of personnel and Beane just takes care of the details of getting the players he wants (or getting rid of the players he doesn't want), McDermott needs to go before Beane. At first read, this sounds like a joke but McDermott's stubborn insistence on keeping Peterman on the roster and making him the back up when he is clearly not an NFL caliber player raises serious questions about why McDermott drafted him at all, much less in the fifth round, when he simply doesn't have an NFL arm. He's a TC body at best. Why waste a fifth round pick on a QB prospect whose ceiling is maybe career backup when your team has so many other holes? McDermott shouldn't be fired for not drafting Mahomes, but he should be fired for drafting Peterman.

Can I interest you in the purchase of a slightly used but recently rehabbed bridge over Chautauqua Lake? You seem like just the kind of guy who would jump at that opportunity.