Stank_Nasty
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11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
if the truth is a cop out so be it.
If it wasn't for the defense with so many take away'' ..... where would the team have finished up? 6 wins maybe?
the truth is one team did enough over 16 games and the other didn't.
again.... should we go back and credit the steelers for our playoff bid? maybe the jags for beating the ravens 40-0 back in the start of the season? it shouldn't matter when it happens. week one or week 16. one team did enough and the other didn't. bottom line. i'm not giving anyone else credit for jack squat.
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5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Taylor "led" the Bills to 9 wins and with the help of the Bengals they made the playoffs. Truth.
here's a hint... never challenge an person with Autistic traits. we're stubborn as hell.
ugh. the ultimate cop out from people trying to discount the season.
should we give credit to the steelers as well? they drove down the field and beat the ravens weeks earlier. how about any teams that beat them in September?
there's a bottom line here. one team did what they needed to over a full 16 games to get in and the other DID NOT.
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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
again my comment was that it was an interesting take --- I wasn't going to argue about his idea
as for your list earlier. I stand by what I said that you live in hypocrisy here.... I don't really disagree with your list I guess....
but if I said taylor "led" the bills to the playoffs you would probably blow a gasket. yet if they are losing he "led" them there.... did taylor lead the bills to the playoffs, shady? you said he's the leader, right?
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14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Oh come on man. You are reaching for Tyrod Hate crap that is not there. You are reading things that don't exist. Like a paranoia
All I said was interesting ...... I never claimed it was good or bad. It was an "option" no one had mentioned before.
So...... No comments on my list? Do I need to add or subtract from it?
(that means I'm joking with you)
That is the idea here .... get a conversation going instead of arguments
IMHO. Jacoby Brissett hasn't done much to prove he's good. (or that he totally sucks even though it's not looking great)
I 'll even say similar for Jimmy G. He hasn't done much to prove he's truly good.
right.... I edited the orginal post and said I was being nit picky.
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1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I like Teddy Bridgewater to the Cardinals. I think he is a nice fit for the intermediate passing game and can get the ball to Larry Fitzgerald. Plus he looks pretty good with a Cardinal on the side of his helmet.
Keenum makes some sense as well but I think he ultimately goes back to Minnesota. In that same vein, I could see Bradford being the quarterback of choice here. I think they go the vet route with Fitz in the twilight of his career. Teddy is still young and gives them a chance to play for now and the future. Lastly, if Andrew Luck is healthy, I could see them trying to make a trade for Jacoby Brissett
Making a play for Tyrod would just completely waste Fitzgerald's last year. It won't happen.
1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:Interesting take of Jacoby Brissett ......
the interesting part is thinking taylor would be wasting a players season but brissett wouldn't..... Hilton had 4 straight 1000 yd seasons and then brissett came into the mix this year.... if i'm fitz i'm not overly enthused with either player
I guess i'm just being nit picky for the sake of it though.... I don't really care too much. lol.... that just struck me as odd.
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29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
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Wrex Ryan then fired Roman 2 games into his second season after TT started and led the team to an 0-2 record.
wait just a damned minute. your hypocrisy is one of the main reason we butt heads so much... the other day you cited a bad passer rating in a handful of games as one of many reasons we need to move on from taylor but all year you narrative was that passer rating means nothing....
and now you state he "led the team" to an 0-2 start but when the team wins and makes the playoffs its in spite of him..... this right here is ridiculous. so its only a team sport if they are winning. apparently when he's losing its on his shoulders... and passer rating means nothing when his are good, but when you need to try and prove a point you say he "led" them to an 0-2 record and use horrific passer ratings to try and push the narrative.
good lord dude. come on man!
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Wrex Ryan then fired Roman 2 games into his second season after TT started and led the team to an 0-2 record.
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1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:
Disagree. He processes the info, but he won't put the ball into tight spaces. He's just too conservative and risk-averse.
well regardless of the reason for it. its a huge issue and likely the one that keeps him from ever being more than what he is.... which will be a stop-gap qb for another one or 2 franchises.
I thought he did a solid job in buffalo considering the circumstances but now its time to move on.... I really hope he goes to team like Arizona. I think they could win 9-11 games with him. heck, they went 5-4 to finish out he season last year with gabbert and Stanton at qb and no david Johnson.
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41 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Which is why after his best season Roman was fired, as well as the two subsequent OC's after. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck it must be a duck.
why do a handful of you guys do this? don't you see how it looks sorta lame when you try and say lynn got fired? the dudes work with the offense is basically what got him a head coaching gig. being overly technical and saying he got fired to prove a point against tyrod is honestly sorta foolish. I dunno how you cant see how lame it is to do that all for the sake of trying confirm an argument against the qb. 16's offense scored points. hands down. it was a good unit. taylor directly impacted that with his arm and legs. they did a good job of scoring points..... and that basically got lynn a HC job. don't pretend that taylor got lynn canned. that's a bit ridiculous wouldn't you say?
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1 hour ago, billsfan11 said:
Seriously? Lol. Against Atlanta they got a defensive TD and they won by 4 points. They had 3 turnovers that game that lead to 10 to 13 points. Easily the difference in the game.
Against Denver they got 3 turnovers which resulted in 6 points and took off points off the board for the Broncos.
TB they literally won the game off a fumble that set up the game winning kick.
Oaklsnd they got 4 turnovers and one was a defensive TD.
You’re actually saying the Bills win at least 2 of those games without those turnovers/not turning the ball over?
Not a chance in hell
100%. I cant believe he’s arguing the TO differential we had wasn’t a direct impact in the season. Honestly... it’s really the only thing the team did really well. They took the ball away and didn’t turn it over and it won them games.
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
He'll be even better when the Bills' DL improves.
imagine the secondary in general if the bills had any semblance of a pass rush..... my GAWWDDDD
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Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
I was being facetious but I can see how you would see that.
stank
My bad.
1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:As I said. One bad game can be overlooked. It happens to the elites from time to time. (Well not 40 bad)
3 in a season should not be ignored.
Right. Apparently you can’t see how flawed it is to use rating in that discussion but yet anytime he’s had a good one you basically discount it. The team wins in spite of him in those occasions right?
Dude... be consistent. If you say rating is overrated then you can’t freaking use it to prove a point. When you do it’s not a good look
ftr those games were enough for me as well.
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2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
passing yards don't matter. accurate passing doesn't matter. bad games don't matter. sustaining drives doesn't matter. reading a defense doesn't matter. scoring more than 3 points doesn't matter.
but hey, keeping those ints down and running around while trying to avoid sacks matter while gaining the occasional first down matters.
some want better, some, it doesn't matter.
Right. That sums it up. Really that simple isn’t it?
This is a joke of a post.
Great job. Keep it up.
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1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:
Easy, bud...you asked a question and I was just responding...if you aren’t interested in what others have to say, maybe you shouldn’t ask.
I didn’t ask that question. Shady did. And then I put in my 2 cents about what you said. If you are gonna lay down blanket statements I’m gonna point out they are missing context.
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4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Once I said I wanted to see TT pass for 300 ypg and it became the biggest meme here.
It’s kind of funny but just yesterday someone posted Jimmy G deserves his $27 mil because he averaged 300 ypg.
If that person is a TT fan is that a double standard?
500 passing yards can be had in a game with a loss and 150 passing yard can win games.
Which stat is better?
All the stats need to be factored in. But it was just funny to me that rating means nothing when it’s good and Taylor is just padding stats and not taking risks but when his rating is bad we’ll go ahead and use it to prove a point.
Believe it or not I actually agree Taylor’s rating has been padded a bit by his tentative play. Which is why I rarely use it in any Taylor argument. But I would like to see some consistency from people with strong opinions on the matter. If you discredit his good rated games naturally you shouldn’t put much stock in the bad ones either. Correct?
There are are double standards around here on both sides. This just happened to be the one I saw this morning as I popped in the forum in my office.
1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:I’m going with 500 yards because it means you can comeback at any time, even when the rest of your team is crappy...sure, you want the win, but when you have that kind of production, you are always confident you can win...150 yards means you had to have everything else go just right for victory...and if it doesnt150 yards probably means your are not going to be able to comeback, and it gives me zero confidence in winning any given game.
It’s never this black and white. But go ahead and take all context out and make a blanket statement like this. Makes sense
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4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:
Americans struggle with Math and Science.
there's some sort of struggle going on here. that's for sure.
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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Not at all.
We need to look at good and bad and see how it balances out.
It is my opinion that the bad does override the good in key situations.
If 15 of 20 and 3 points is a good rating and we lose we by 14 is that really good?
What of 28 of 35 and a 3 to 7 point loss?
(What is it?) 3 or 4 games out of 16 where he passes for over 30 times in 3 seasons and the result is a loss.
Is that good or bad? Or do we blame the defense?
Extending plays is a common attribute given TT but what exactly does that mean?
Scrambling to avoid a sack and a throwaway or a short pass that fails to get a 1st down which may happen more often than a few deeper balls to keep a drive alive?
You’ve seen me compliment TT and commented that it confused you seeing me do so.
Every time I jumped on the TT bandwagon things went south.
I did want to see TT successeed and be the QB of the future but that time has passed.
we need to move on from tyrod..... but its odd that I see you'll use games with a bad rating as an example of that but go on to say that rating/efficiency doesn't mean much of anything when its used in an argument for the positives on taylor.
I mean.... come on man.....
and any minute now teddy is gonna respond to this post with a passing yd ranking..... just wait for it.
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1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:
K, a summary of the games combined in one simple place doesn’t help you ??♂️???.
Morning sweetie.
again... what does it have to do with what I asked shady?
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Just now, Teddy KGB said:
oh look. the worst poster on the board dipped into the passing yard well one more time....... who could have predicted that!
too bad that has nothing to do with what I was asking shady about.... another awful moment in the teddy posting timeline.
at least you are reliable.
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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Of course selecting certain areas to critique or boast on is cherry picking.
Ying and yang. Some boast only good others post only bad.
One bad bad day can be excused.
3 bad days with a QB rating under 45 should be highlighted.
We can blame the lack of a good game plan on the OC but does a bad plan mean the QB rating will be sub 50?
autocorrect edit
so we should care about the games with bad qb ratings is what you are saying correct? am I getting that right?
for some reason this doesn't jive with me when I've been told by you and others that we should pay no mind to all the games where he's had a good rating. I've been told numerous times that rating means nothing... apparently only the games with good ratings mean nothing?
let me get this straight. you'll disregard any game he has a good rating but use the games with bad ratings as examples for your point? that's just really really flawed and 100% agenda driven. but at this point from what ive seen around here, I wouldn't expect anything less.
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but he's got wr's running wide open all game!!!!
I know becuz plenty of posters around here tell me so!
on a serious note. I've already moved on. lets just make it official as soon as possible. the only way i'd be ok with keeping him around is if they still go out and make a huge move in the draft to get their guy.
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4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
ACLs are 8 month injuries now. I fully expect Wentz to be ready by game 1.
from what ive gleaned he should be a go for week 1 but I heard that they shouldn't expect him to be 100%.... I don't think its out of the realm of possibility to see foles for 2 or 3 weeks to give him another month. if ya have that luxury what not use it?
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1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:
This
or you could hop on the jfh theory that passing yards are bad so we can cover up the terrible qb depth chart
accept john just stated he wants to move on from taylor.... you just lack the comprehension skills to understand you can go to bat for a guy when he's getting bagged on everyday but still wanna move on and upgrade from said player.
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46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I would definitely use them to move up and draft a Qb if they determine he’s the guy they want. It’s 5 years of a rookie deal vs an albatross of a contract. Plus 4-5 years younger.
I think jimmy already made it pretty apparent in san fran the rest of the team isn't as big an issue if you have a huge talent at qb. so cap number at that point isn't as big an issue. is it going to surprise you if they give him a huge number and they keep winning like they did to finish out the 17 season?.... and your original rebuttal towards me was not wanting to trade those picks for him based on small sample size... whats a smaller sample size than a rookie having never played a down?
its dumb i'm putting this much effort into this argument anyways becuz its never gonna happen. lol
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
That’s fine, still a small sample size though. He had 7 TDs and 5 INT. 2 firsts?
a team wins 5 straight games after winning one all year and the only major change they made was a qb...... does much more need to be said for that? the guy had multiple 300 yd games, was tossing the ball all over the yard and they were scoring a serious amount of points. he had 1500 freaking yds in 5 starts dude. you left that part out. that's one hell of a sample. it wasn't the pats he was stepping in for again...... the niners had one freaking win. and it was against the giants.
and if we are gonna argue having a small sample size as not wanting to trade those picks then i'm assuming you aren't on board with using them to move up and draft a qb?
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if they can catch a stroke of luck and actually nab a solid bridge while they develop a young guy they could end up doing solid.... they just went 5-4 to end the season with gabbert and Stanton at qb and no david Johnson.....
truth is.... it would suck to be in the nfc in general. there's a big group of real good qb's there. another year or 2 and the afc is gonna be wide open after ben and brady are gone.
this is soooo pointless. dude. the bills won, the ravens lost. one team did what they needed to and the other didn't. hand picking individual games to try and prove a lame point is just..... lame.
whats with you and these dumb "if" scenarios? i'll say it AGAIN. one team did what they needed to over 16 games to get in and the other didn't.... WHAT THE HECK DOES A GAME AGAINST THE BENGALS BACK IN OCTOBER DO TO CHANGE THAT?
all these "if's" and thanking the bengals in the name of tyring to discredit the playoff bid just becuz you don't like who the qb was. its not very becoming.... I think its sorta sad.