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12 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:
"The Buffalo Bills managed 9-7 and a first round exit two years in a row, Tyrod Taylor goes on the WoF as the greatest QB in Bills history."
Aim higher.
Hence the statement about the draft.... let’s not pretend any other vet in the free agency crop is a guarantee to come in and do much better. If at all.
Lots of winners in that FA crop right??? Come on man. Again... I don’t really care who the vet is next year. That means little to me. If whomever it is can sneak in another playoff berth I’m ALL for it. The draft is what concerns me. And if you were actually thinking higher and long term it would be the case for you as well.
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Just now, Sweats said:
I can’t handle one more year of “gun shy” Taylor.
My god, he’s just awful.
I could easily deal with another 9-7 season while a prized rookie sits the bench and learns or earns the job in year one.
Dont really care who the qb is that delivers it.
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29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
We needed another thread to discuss this! However many there are, they are NOT ENOUGH! We need MORE! MORE! I tell you!
The worst part is drudged up most of the sludge when he bumped it. Some real “winners” came blazing in Like sharks to blood in the water.
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24 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
Points count the same no matter who scores them or when.
I was at that Steelers game and although the offense didn't do much either, that was the worst exhibition of "tackling" I've ever seen in my entire football watching career.
until the fins game right after that.......
man those were some frustrating games to watch.
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27 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:
But having a head coach be that conservative with the season on the line does not bode well for the future.
having a coach that just ended a 17 year stooper after an offseason with massive roster turnover and inconsistent play from basically every unit makes me not worry too much about his future.
he did just fine. lets go ahead and look at a whole seasons worth of work as opposed to taking a single situation IN A WIN and worrying about the future becuz of it.. geez.
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1 minute ago, Domdab99 said:
But you're missing the very real possibility of going for it on 4th and 1 AND MAKING IT. You're only assuming they don't make it.Then they have the ball in better field position, with more time on the clock, and are not in desperation mode - thean if they had punted.
right. which is why I didn't agree with the call. we are on the same page there..... but at least get the facts right. you didn't.
I, unlike you apparently, understand why he did it and the reasoning behind it. I don't agree with it but it ultimately worked.
1 minute ago, JMF2006 said:All you have to do is look at the 4th down stats.
The Bills 4th down conversions were 2 for 15 on the year.
If that doesn't scream punt then you need to put the pipe down.
I agree. and joe webb doesn't help matters.... I didn't agree with the call. but I get it.
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Just now, Steptide said:
I agree that the bills will get another qb one way or another.
And yes I enjoyed the playoff run just as much as any bills fan, but I put maybe 20% of the reason we got there on Tyrod. The other 80% would be a mix of defense and shady.
which i'm perfectly fine with for another year while the rookie learns or even takes the job.
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8 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:
Punting and needing to stop Indy, then getting the ball back - further away from the goaline than if they had just gone for it - with only 2 minutes and change on the clock - was a retarded move. Why? BECAUSE THE SEASON WAS ON THE LINE! You can't settle for a tie there. You HAVE to win the game, or the Bills are out.
Why can't people understand this?
I get the move if it was just another game...punt, pin the Colts back, wrap up at least a tie. I get that.
But not in this instance. 4th and 1. And they have to win the game to stay alive. It's a no-brainer.
But we have people here who are results oriented thinkers "Hey it worked out, so it was the right decision." And others who miss-apply basic gambling rules.
It's just maddening.
bolded literally isn't true at all. the bills were on the indy 41. had they gone and not gotten it indy, even if they don't move the ball, can pin buffalo DEEP.
the way it shook out indy had to punt from around the 20 or 25 if i'm not mistaken and the bills had very manageable field position. around the their own 35 I believe. not optimal but much better than inside the 10 or 15. I literally just said I didn't like the call to punt but I get his reasoning. he was banking on his punter and defense and playing field position for a final drive. and you need to at least get you facts straight.
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6 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Nope I never said that. What I said is that I'd rather Peterman start all of 2018 rather than having to watch Tyrod play another snap for the bills. Never once said I wouldn't watch. And my point is/was that a 5th round rookie/sophomore probably wouldn't be much worse than our 31st ranked passing attack with Taylor. By the way, this all assuming that we can't get a guy in the draft/free agency
fair enough. you'll still watch. my bad.... i'm assuming you didn't enjoy the playoff season this year just becuz taylor was the qb? yikes. sorry about you're luck. it was the most enjoyable season I've witnessed as an emotionally invested adult.
and the bolded is what you gleaned from watching Peterman? geez man. just becuz he's made a couple throws tyrod wont pull the trigger on.... you are right about that! I saw 5 in one half. you see a couple of flashy throws and all of sudden he's a upgrade.
and i'm perfectly confident that no matter who the vet qb is next year they will be drafting their guy. unless its a high profile vet and I think we can all agree that's a slim chance.
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2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Fine, take the games where he has "legit NFL starters." Just understand a few things:
First, that is totally subjective. What is a "legit NFL starter?"
Second, in order to actually make that assertion we would have to know what "average" is under the conditions he specified actually would be.
So we would need to do the following for EVERY QB we are including in the comparison:
* Figure out some standard for "legit NFL starter"
* Take only games where they have ALL of their "legit NFL starters" in the game over 2 seasons
* Determine a numerical average for the stats we want to compare (TD, INT, completion percentage)
* Figure out what the sample size would be (10 games? 16 games? 20 games?) If the sample sizes are different than raw numbers mean nothing. One guy might have "legit NFL starters" for 10 games over 2 years and one might have them for 16 games.
Then we could have a serious conversation.
the bolded makes me know you are just being difficult for the sake of it now. if you watched the games and who was playing and what they've done in other stints you would know the answer to this as well..... but I hey. I get it. you wanna be difficult for the sake of it becuz ..... tyrod taylor.
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20 hours ago, wagon127 said:
Sean McDermott was quoted saying that he made the call, because he didn't want to lose, and was ok with tying this game. He got lucky that Indy wasn't able to move on the following drive, and that the colts had an incomplete pass, which stopped the clock. Just because they won, doesn't mean it was the right call. When they finally got the ball back, it was 20 yards lost from where the ball previously was, and half the time left on the clock to score.
I actually didn't like the call but the bolded is just a really silly statement.... it was a blizzard. the defense was playing well. the colts not moving it had little to do with luck there and i'm sure that factored into the decision.
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3 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Apologies for the horrendous music in this video, but their are throws we see from this rookie that we never saw from Tyrod in 3 starting seasons. Yes, his completion percentage over all was 50%, but even that is a bit twisted. He never started and finished a full game (including pre season). Yes the Chargers game was horrible, but in almost every game he played, it was either at the very end, part of the middle (pre season) or a half. Give the dude a full off season with camp and a few better recievers, and I bet he's much improved
good lord. quit it.
this doesn't surprise me anymore though. I'm fairly certain that you said earlier in this thread you wouldn't watch a game all year if taylor was back. have fun with that. i'll enjoy another season of them being in the playoff hunt instead of tanking... all while probably having an elite prospect waiting on the bench for 19. sign me up.
i'm perfectly fine with moving on from taylor. but not just for the sake of it. and most definitely not for #2 up there! thankfully I think the bills FO doesn't think like the maniacs on this board and isn't going "we just need anyone but tyrod... and we don't care what that means"
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5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Oh I understood your point perfectly. In fact, you have effectively illustrated how statistics can be both true and totally misleading.
You are falling into a fallacy of reasoning when you say his play was "well above average" because you are comparing this totally subjective time span where he went 27 TD to 6 INT against some standard that you fail to identify. What is the "average" that he is well above in the cases you cited?
I hope you aren't pretending that taking one QBs best games over 2 seasons and comparing them to a typical QB's 16 game season proves anything. Especially with your condescending tone. That would just be embarrassing, although ignorance and arrogance tend to go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Did you do the same thing for all the other NFL starters, only counting games where they had all their WRs healthy? In your reply you mention OL, backups, and scheme. Did you take all of this into account for every other NFL starter, put together a sample size equal to whatever number of games you used for Tyrod, THEN compare them to see what actually IS average and what is "well above" average in that scenario?
Because if you didn't then your numbers and assertion that Tyrod's play was "well above average" means absolutely nothing. There is no significance to your statistics.
Also, taking Tyrod's best games over 2 different seasons and coming up with 27 TD and 6 INT is actually not all that impressive. Good QBs in this league throw 3-4 TD in one game. It happens all the time. Assuming you used 16 games, 27 TD is less than 2 TD a game. And that is with all his targets, and when he is supposedly playing "well above average." Do you watch NFL games outside of the Bills?
he didn't take only his best games. he took the games where he actually had legit nfl starters at the wr position...... why exactly are you having such a hard time separating that for you "best games" theory. the proof was in the pudding. when the guy had his starting talent out there he produced.
and can you actually say without cracking a smile there have been more than a handful of qb's in the last 3 seasons that have routinely dealt with so many injuries and lack of talent at the wr positon as the bills have?
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16 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:
I am ready to jump man. OBD stupid ways of the constant backup QBs does nothing but get all the staffs fired over and over again. If they keep Tyrod another season it wasn't Whaleys QB purgatory it was OBDs.
I hear ya it's early but sadly I have been expecting this stupid garbage to continue the entire time with this new staff when Tyrod was brought back last season. Hey maybe OC#4 or 5. SMH
Massive roster turnover. Brand new coaching staff..... and then playoffs in the first year. And you are “ready to jump”. Good lord.
The stupidity of your posts never gets old. You just keep coming up with new ways of amazing me with how awful it is. I literally care nothing about how harsh or jerkish that may come off. you are just absolutely RIDICULOUS.
It it doesn’t matter who the vet qb is next year as long as they draft their guy this spring. I dunno how you can’t grasp that concept.
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bills figure out a way to bring in an average vet like Bradford, mccown..... or dare I say even keep the one we have if it comes to that....
bills make the move to 5 with the broncos and take Mayfield and he beats out any of the said vets. that's my perfect qb scenario
as for why? if the rookie beats them out it means the bills are winning games immediately and I want it to be Mayfield becuz I get 6 hour Viagra boners every time I see his highlights.
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44 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:
Is this a “get off my lawn” contest or something?
Why is it so impossible to fathom that some people had a fantastic time while experiencing one of the more unique home games in the history of the franchise?
Why is it also so hard to fathom that some people go to the games for the camaraderie, the tailgate routine and the experience of just being there?
Yeah X’s and O’s are cool, but in my opinion not the be all, end all of how I enjoy home games.
I like quirks. I like the unexpected. I like CFL football and classic 1-0 NHL goaltender duels.
You guys still wanna hang
onto and carry on about Joe Webb and botched play call months after the fact, then have at it. Not gonna prevent me from hanging onto a great memory that I shared with a some of my closest friends.
well if this is directed at me you totally got the wrong feel off of what I said...... as I also said i'm gonna dvr it and probably be able to enjoy it more knowing now it got us into the playoffs and we won. as a spectator on a couch watching it unfold live that doesn't mean it wasn't horribly frustrating. it friggin was, man.
believe me. I thoroughly enjoyed the season from start to finish. 15 hour drive after a loss in j-ville be damned. LOL. I bought in at 5-2. I held on hope going into arrowhead when McDermott made the switch back and then again going into week 17 and all the way down to duval county. I live in the moment. I don't do the whole "i'm not buying in yet" BS... and that made this season the most enjoyable one ive ever had as an invested adult in the franchise.
I made 5 games this year. that one didn't happen to be one of them and its bittersweet because 2 of my best buddies basically sum it up as saying it was totally awesome but they really don't care to ever deal with it again.
for me i'd have to say the most perfect experience I've had weather-wise so far was in 16 vs the steelers. obviously the outcome sucked but it was just the most awesome dry snowfall all day to tailgate and watch a game in. the stadium looked so crisp that day. really cool.
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1 hour ago, 4_kidd_4 said:
Agree so much with this. It was a unique event, something people will never forget.
People griping about X’s and O’s should probably loosen up a little bit.
i'm definitely gonna dvr it and add it to the list of games I watch buzzed up on random Friday nights this offseason. right along with the week 17 fins/end of bengals game that I remembered to dvr.
that being said.... my god I was frustrated during that game. defense buckled late. freaking joe webb at qb. the punt in OT that seemed to doom us to a tie.... I just remember sitting there after the W having to tell myself to relax and remember that we won and to enjoy it. LOL. I think i'll be able to do that better now that I know the outcome.
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1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:
What if the results for the Bengals and Ravens games were the same, but the order of the games played was different? Would you say that they relied upon the Bengals beating the Ravens in week 8 to "back into the playoffs"? Of course not. The standings are the same. The Bills made the playoffs.
He’s having a hard time grasping that concept. But you are right. One team did what it needed to over 16 games and finished the season strong. The other didn’t.
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9 minutes ago, Gugny said:
http://www.yourdictionary.com/back-into
(idiomatic) To rely upon another team's loss in order to advance to the post-season.
Night, night, sweetheart.
Well there ya have it. The site that lets people add their thoughts to what definitions are proves it for you. Definitely legit... silly me. Obviously when you are playing well and finish the season 4-2 you are still apparently “limping backwards” into the playoffs. Seems legit. Off to get another beer.
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6 minutes ago, Gugny said:
And if your Uncle Cletus had a vagina, he'd be your aunt. You're being silly. Have one more beer and go to bed.
Dude. Winning more than you lose is the EXACT opposite of limping backward into the playoffs. And the hilarious part of all of this how sure you are that you are right and can’t see how flawed the reasoning is.
What team has ever gone 4-2 over a stretch and people said they were backing into anything. Think about it for a second. Let it sink in. Good lord. I’m not drinking any I can assure you that but trying to explain this failry simple concept to you may take me in that direction!
Have a nice night, friend.
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8 minutes ago, Gugny said:
What's absurd is that you can't see that the Bills backed into the playoffs. If the Bills clinched the playoffs with ONLY a win over Miami, then they wouldn't have backed in. But since they beat Miami AND they needed to wait for another game to end in order to determine whether they got in .... that is backing in.
There's really no argument, here. They backed in. And they got lucky to even do that.
Lol. You wouldn’t be 100% wrong if the bills hadn’t finished the season 4-2 and just won. But they did. So you are.
The ravens game had nothing to do with how the bills were playing. To say a team is limping backwards into the playoffs imply they weren’t playing well or had been losing. That’s 100% not the case. This is really simple. I’m not sure why it’s not registering.
And again. One team handled there business week 17 and the other didn’t. How on earth can we say a team backed in after doing what they needed to do and the other didn’t. That literally makes NO SENSE.
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4 minutes ago, Gugny said:
So the fact that after their last regular season game, they were all huddled around a TV rooting for Cincy to win .... that doesn't mean they backed in?
That, my friend, is the textbook definition of backing in.
That’s absolutely ridiculous. They finished the season with a win and 4-2. Let’s go ahead and thank the Steelers for their win against the ravens weeks early or maybe any team that beat them in sept too. There’s a bottom line here. One team did what they needed to over 16 games(while finishing strong) and the other didn’t. Another team losing a game they needed to win has nothing to do with how the bills were playing. They 100% didn’t back in. That’s absurd to me.
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11 hours ago, Gugny said:
I don't think Beane wants to build a team that has to rely on 50+ yard field goals, lucky INTs and limps backwards into the playoffs every year.
While I agree with some of the early points here they most definitely didn’t limp backwards in the playoffs. Finishing the season 4-2 after “the benching” while handling their business week 17. Is the absolute opposite of limping or backing in.
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3 minutes ago, dneveu said:
Hey - He played pretty well in a few games this year. Both Jets games, the TB game, the ATL game, the DEN game, KC game, both Miami games.
Stats don't jump out but I don't really care about stats when I watch the game though. I watched those games, and I can recognize that he played well.
right.... and do we really care about the October letdown in cincy? or the NO game where they laid an egg? week 17 came around and they did what they needed to do. the ravens didn't. at that point NONE of those games matter....... unless you are annoyed by who's under center and want to find any means necessary to downgrade the playoff birth.
Hate to say it...Tyrod will be back
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It’s a Horse a piece. Whatever. Why all the fuss over marginal differences?
If the bills go 9-7 with mccown what’s the difference? They aren’t going anywhere either. And be honest. They wouldn’t do any better than that record most likely. I get it.... anyone but Tyrod right? Sorry. That’s dumb. Other than cousins all the others are just a jumble of mediocrity. None of them are taking buffalo through the playoffs. Get real.
Its all about how fast the rookie develops. If it’s 18 that’s freaking awesome. It’s probably all about 2019 though. People are just pissy becuz they don’t wanna see Tyrod again and apparently don’t realize that no other vet, other than cousins, has any legitimate shot at taking them any further.
Im fine with moving on from Tyrod. But not just for the sake of it. Thankfully I think the FO has some common sense and doesn’t think like the “anyone but Tyrod” maniacs around here. They’ll either land a viable qb to keep them competitive or they’ll keep him. If he stays I’m perfectly fine with a team that will be contending for a playoff spot again while the rookie either takes the job by the end of the season or 2019.