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  1. 13 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

    ^^^

     

     

    How is Tre White all that different from Antoine Winfield or Nate Clements or Stephon Gilmore?  Actually, he was a replacement for Gilmore, the Pro Bowl DB the Bills let walk ... just like they let Winfield and Clements walk away.   That's been the Bills personnel pattern over the last twenty years: drafting first round DBs (or RBs), using them for their rookie contracts, and then moving on.

     

    How is Josh Alllen a superior pro QB prospect to JP Losman or EJ Manuel, other than he doesn't go by his initials?   All three had as their biggest pluses their big arms.  All three were considered "projects" who would need work to become pro ready.   All three had questions about their mechanics, including their accuracy.  None of them demonstrated that they had the intellectual skills sets they needed to make them good NFL QBs such as being able to read defenses.

     

    I'll give the current Bills regime credit for being "different" from their predecessors when their actions/selections/results don't bear depressing resemblace to previous regimes.

    you're just so..... OFF, on all of this. first off. the bills traded back, got picks, and STILL got a lockdown corner. a corner that was directly responsible for sealing 2 wins last year. i'm sad for you that you cant see any of this. 

     

    and as for allen. he was regarded as top 5-10 pick by the majority for over a year leading up to the draft. the same cant be said for the other 2 qb's you mentioned. but since you see similarities and you had your mind made up about him you claim its the same ole crap you saw for the last 20 years.

     

    and this staff isn't different? they just made the playoffs with a ton of roster turnover while cleaning up the cap from the prior crap show. literally all of that is different from the previous 17 years. dude you need to take the sh*t colored glass off and open your eyes. WOW. nothing about how this FO has started has been depressing. not even close.

  2. 14 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

     

    While the Bills coaching staff and FO have swapped personnel over the years with some regularity, most of the scouting staff really didn't change all that much until Beane took over last year.  Unfortunately, the 2018 draft has the same "feel" as previous drafts ... another gamble on the proverbial "high risk/high reward" prospect while leaving better prospects on the board.

     

     

    Bringing up 20 years worth of failures in an argument against the new staff that has already NAILED their 2017 pick and then broke the drought with massive roster turnover is really REALLY foolish IMO. 

     

    And make sure not to lump how all the fans “feel” about this draft in with your thoughts. It may have that “feel” to you. But I’m absolutely fine with how things shook out, as are plenty of others with even heads on their shoulders. I see no reason not to give the new staff the benefit of the doubt until they’vd proven they don’t deserve it. 

     

    So far so good. 

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  3. 23 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

    Lamar Jackson has the most potential pal... dont be that much of a Allen trooper to ignore how great Lamar Jackson is. Plus, he might beat out Flacco... it's not like he's going up against Nathan Peterson or AJ McCarron for the starting job. That fact that both Rosen & Jackson might win their starting jobs are telling how good they were coming out. Those 2 are going against legitimate competition... I can't say the same for our guy. 

     

     

     

    I was concerned about Allen coming, I didn't sleep for 48hrs after we drafted him cause it was just a bad pick, I'm still concerned about him now entering camp.

     

    People were afraid of Wilson being great after we took TJ Graham over him... this is probably much worse. 

     

    Every metric, every statistic says... Allen could bust out. I'm of course hoping for the best... if he's Stafford... I will GLADLY accept my wrongness & eat cooked spinach! (I hate cooked spinach...I love it raw more). 

     

    But my energy for Allen is not through the roof. If anything, I'm looking at QB next year cause I feel like we possibly could bottom out, especially if we lose Shady. Allen will have to be DeSean Watson good... to ignite this fanbase.

     

     

    This is all so dramatic. Good lord dude. 

     

    And don’t lump the fan base in with your awful takes. He won’t have to go on a record setting tear to start his career off(watson) as the only way to ignite the fan base. Give me a freaking break. This basically says there is nothing he can do short of putting up numbers no rookie has ever seen for you to buy in. Which means your mind is already made up no matter what happens..... comical stuff here. 

  4. 10 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

    Shady is good, no doubt about it but i’d have a hard time reasoning that he could be better than Gurley in LA. He does it all. If Shady ran like Gurley does inside the 5 the Bills would have scored that touchdown in Jax. Straight ahead, full speed, no hesitation and tons of power. 

    Well I never said that he was better than gurley. And I don’t believe he is. Like I said. I have McCoy in the 4 or 5 range. My point is he most definitely would have an argument for the top 3 if he played in any of the offenses that the consensus top 3 backs play in. 

     

    As I state in my prior post. It’s picking nits. I get that. But I would have him at 4 or 5. 

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  5. I have a hard time putting guys with merely one season of production(Johnson/Kamara)over McCoy. 

     

    6 isn’t insulting thought. I’m picking nits but over the last couple years I’ve had him in that 4 or 5 slot. Can you imagine him in Pittsburgh’s offense, with those weapons, running behind that line? Or behind the line in Dallas? as a part of the offense in LA? It would be sickening. 

  6. 7 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

     

    He does not seem to care other than Bills "backed in".  If there had been a power outage and Bills game had finished after Bengals game then standings would be same but he would have lost his ammo.

    Isn’t it funny how the order of when they finished changes that for some? Lol. 

     

    Theres a bottom line that a handful hate to admit.... one team did what they needed to do over a 16 game season and the other didn’t. 

  7. 1 hour ago, swnybillsfan said:

    i would vote for the seemingly innocent 12-15 yard pass to Brandon Tate (i believe) when the sideline blew up . that was pretty well representative of the season. but between the two choices given, gotta go with Kyle. this past season really solidified his place in the hearts of Bills fans. we have always love to root for him. great guy, great story...but this past season he kinda rounded that corner towards "Buffalo Bills Icon". 

    That was an awesome play by the old qb and Tate on 2nd and 20 vs OAK.  Made a few amazing cuts for the first then got mobbed on the sideline and Coach McD was leading the way. Was definitely a play that stuck with me throughout the season. 

     

    What a fun season. 

  8. 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

    I had thrown a shoe at the wall and cussed out the world before they threw the flag. I had actually left the room. I was questioning why the hell I watch this team. I guess I got my answer. Always get sucked back in!

    hahaha. right? I was legitimately ticked off even after we won becuz of how ridiculous of a game it was. I remember thinking "I cant even enjoy the freaking wins anymore. whats the point".... ive since been able to sit back and watch it on my dvr since then and really enjoy the beautiful s**t show that it was knowing now that all that craziness led to a playoff birth.

     

    so while I LOVE the hand off to meatball. I guess I would have to say still go with the webb throw. it was a miracle toss in awful conditions and it kept the season alive.

  9. 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

    That entire Indy game was a miracle. From the fact it was even played to the Webb throw to the late flag on the colts.

    right..... everything we've grown accustomed to going against us finally came back around for us. 

     

    such a strange game. wasn't really even all that happy afterward. I just was all nerved up and wondering how it all happened for us that way. haha.

  10. 10 minutes ago, Ice bowl 67 said:

    Why do you guys think it will be s slaughterfest?

    becuz most bills fans think the bills will be slightly worse next year and its fairly evident the packers will be.... the packers.

     

    the being said. Lambeau is a bucket list item for me so I don't really care how bad we get beat. there are 5 of us making the journey in an RV. 

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  11. 47 minutes ago, Yav said:

    I have had issues myself with off duty cops who got drunk and started crap. Cops seem to think because they are cops they can get drunk and be jerks to people and cause problems. Sometimes you need to put them in their place with a good ass kicking. Being a cop doesn't give them a right to get drunk and start **** and it should give them the right to break laws. I don't care what someone does for a living, if you're gonna be a jerk and start something you're gonna get cracked in the head.

    I have an officer friend that has invited me out with other officer buddies..... I wont go anywhere with them anymore. they totally reinforce every stereotype I already had about cops.

     

    I have very little doubt the officers in that incident a couple of years ago had it coming to them.

     

    FTR I also train 3 different local state trooper/city police officers here at my gym and they are extremely kind people. so i'm not trying to bundle them all into that catergory. I just know first hand that some can be that "type"

  12. 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

     

    This doesn't seem likely to me given how career conscious he is with regard to his place in NFL history and his pursuit to evict her legally that includes retrieval of "household" property. 

    this is exactly what I've been thinking. it just doesn't line up with all the prior steps he's taken.

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  13. 17 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

    I know you have a hard time looking past your own bs.....but they also gave up countless first downs to Bortles legs.

    I've gone to bat for the former qb way more than i'm actually comfortable with becuz of characters like teddy and you aren't wrong about the defenses weaknesses in that game but 10 points is 10 points. hard to put much of any real blame on them. being there live I really couldn't get a good feel of some of the throws he missed but finally watching it on tv...… there were some seriously important throws that he didn't make by either making an inaccurate pass when a guy had a step or just not throwing it at all. especially in the 4th quarter. there is other blame to go round though. clay not being aware of where he was on the sideline on a crucial first down conversion. thompsons unnecessary hold on shady's massive screen play.... both HUGE errors in crunch time.

     

    the worst thing I could have done was watch that game last night. really got my gears grinding again. such a winnable game. 

  14. 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Maybe a slight upgrade at this point but neither is a needle mover. They are both depth guys. I’d rather have 2 “depth” type guys though that are at least NFL backs. 

     

    Carson is intriguing as well. I don’t see the Bills trading more than a 6th for a RB and a 7th. Guys like Ware/West fall in that tier. 

     

    If the Bills want to get a little more aggressive they should take a shot at Tevin Coleman. He’s entering FA and doubt that he gets paid after that Freeman contract. Maybe you can get him and extend him? He’s the guy that can be a lead back.

    Coleman. Wow. Ya. Now that’s a serious idea right there. 

     

    Bears were rumored to be shopping Howard this spring as well. I think that would take too much. Probably a couple of 2nds. So I think once McCoy has run his course here, whether that’s sooner or later, they have no desire to place a huge emphasis on the position. like you said, it would be somebody for a late pick that can fill a certain role alongside ivory would assume. 

  15. 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Tolbert doesn’t play here.

     

    West and Ware aren’t necessarily an upgrade from Ivory but at least in the same tier. I’d be interested for sure. A trade is a better route than any street FA other than Murray. 

    I’ve been thinking of guys beane might wheel and deal for with a mid round pick if the worst happens with shady.... ware came to mind. He had a real nice 2016 season before he got hurt. I would argue he’d be a slight upgrade over ivory. 

     

    Chris Carson in Seattle is another name that came to mind now that they took a runner early this last spring. 

  16. 3 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said:

    He got to the definition, not on his own, and by the time he got there had forgotten what he said.

    to be fair... who the hell memorizes definitions. why would you hold it against somebody to cite a dictionary to prove a point that what he said makes sense?

     

    do you usually have an arsenal of definitions ready to recite for the words that you use? 

     

    I don't agree or disagree with either one of you. but making fun of somebody for going and getting a definition to strengthen their argument is sorta lame on your part. 

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  17. 9 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

     

    I am sure if you were going to have a party Roseanne Arnold would be first person you would invite and maybe only one. :devil:

    Right? ..... Oh no! The millionaire in his mid 20’s had a party and only invited the hottest women! THE NERVE OF THAT GUY! 

     

     

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  18. 11 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

     

    As I recall, McCoy barely escaped a suspension a couple years ago after his entourage beat the crap out of those cops in Philly. 

     

    The NFL hates players being in the news multiple times, regardless of if anyone presses charges. Ruben Foster just got 2 games even though his girl friend dropped the charges on his alleged domestic abuse because he was a repeat offender. I imagine McCoy is looking at the same type of punishment as a minimum, with the potential that his suspension could be much longer, and if real charges are brought that could lead to a conviction he'll be out of the league altogether. 

    I’m not saying McCoy isn’t gonna see a suspension for this even if he’s not convicted but your remarks on Foster aren’t Accurate. Fosters suspension was becuz of weapons and substance charges prior to the abuse accusations. 

     

    It feels more like a Zeke Elliott sort of suspension. Elliot was never convicted but got NAILED by the nfl. 

  19. 4 minutes ago, Boludo said:

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    Here is proof he named his dog "Henny". No good person would ever do this.

    I can only imagine what his dog "training" looks like :(

     

    2 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

    Dude you sound completely unhinged. My dog is named “Bud” am I a degenerate as well?

    my parents had a corgi they named kegger. they don't even drink...….. such awful people.

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  20. Just now, PastaJoe said:

    If found to be true, Beane needs to stick to his “no controversy” policy and get rid of him. Otherwise he’s a cowardly hypocrite.

    if its true, he'll never have a job with any team ever again..... i'm quite skeptical at this point though.

  21. 14 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

    Gil has forgotten more about football than I'll never know.  But even acknowledging that, I have to say this list is bad.

     

    OJ at #10 is indefensible.  Watching OJ and Jim Brown play was like watching a NFLer play against a JUCO team.  They were men among boys.  Gil rightly has Jim at #1 but then puts 8 other backs ahead of OJ.  This is plain insane - or else Gil is letting OJ's extracurricular exploits shade OJ's ranking.

     

    Because of rule and scheme changes, it's hard to compare backs of different eras.  But let's look at 1973 when OJ nearly doubled the production of the next best back.   No other RB has ever been so dominant.  

     

    Other questionable choices:


    Bo at #4?  No way.

     

    LDT at #5?  Good but not that good.

     

    Dorsett at #9?  When watching Barry Sanders (#7) or Earl Campbell (#8), you knew you were watching a special talent in action.  I never felt that way about Dorsett (#9).  

     

    John Riggins at #18?  3.9 yards per carry in his career.  Oddly better as an old man then a young one.    Not in my top 25 though.  Probably not in my top 50.  

     

    This is an odd list by Gil.  

    I would argue that 11,000 yds and over 100 rush td makes your take on Riggins fairly absurd. It’s been 30 years since he’s played and he’s still 19th all time in rush yds and 6th in rush td’s. 

     

    I agree with you and most others saying OJ at 10 is way too low. I also would have a hard time putting Dorsett over Thurman. 

  22. 6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

    Idk but a TD there changes alot, how do you throw against Ramsey on the 1? Run 3-4 times, can live with that. I'm missing some plays , I watched the full game like a month ago and just felt like we should have won... The 2 biggest weaknesses from that game imo (Tyrod and Dennison) are gone..

    that play has been talked about a ton on this board. especially in the weeks right after the loss. I dunno where you guys were for that. lol

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