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7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
if white can slow Hopkins, one would think we put an end to this.
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9 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
Our RBs averaged 3.5 ypc with the longest run being 16 yards. I’d hardly call that humming.
The reality is that our offense is forced to be one dimensional and rely on the run again because we simply can’t throw the ball.
I literally typed out there, that I was referencing the final drive. was the run game working or not? did you see any need in the final drive to have the rookie drop back and throw down the field? I didn't, and i'm not gonna fault him or the OC for going with what gameflow dictated at that point.
and again. how about some context as to why they cant throw. i'd like to think you already know its hardly just on the qb there.
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3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
It's what I realized after the game and said in my write up. Young QBs need playing time. They need to be on the field, calling plays, looking over defenses, making changes at the line, managing the whole game. They need to log hours of playing time. What's better than logging those with a run-oriented offense that wins game? Minimize rookie QB mistakes, get rookie QB experience, win games. Can't win a Super Bowl like that, but you can get your QB ready to win one.
reps reps reps… like anything else in life...
as a fitness professional I relate it to what I call "time under the bar".... I don't always have my clients and young athletes going all out with maximal loads to feel like they got an insane workout. we train for the long haul. reps reps reps. we are consistently putting in our "time under the bar" to be ready for the big days.
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1 minute ago, Nihilarian said:
With the current Ravens it's not for lack of trying as they are currently 10th in rushing attempts. My point was that Flacco was developed into a strong pocket passer in a run first scheme and he eventually won a SB.
Josh Allen had his moments yesterday as he threw for two first downs on that game winning drive. Allen loved to throw the Ball at Wyoming and like that team he had a bad line, WR corps. Right now it makes more sense to do it like they did it against the Titans.
ya. I edited my initial response after I reread what you said.... I agree you can still develop a guy while protecting him with the run game and defense. it just eventually has to shift.
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Just now, That's No Moon said:
Yesterday was a one-off at best. You cannot win playing football that way consistently. I think you know that and you are turning a blind eye to it. Allen looks worse as a passer now than EJ Manuel did at any point as a starter.
I agree with that 100%
My point is game situation and flow need to be taken into account. and I was referencing the final drive, primarily. the run game is humming. the short passes are working why in gods name would you go away from it and why in the world would you blame the qb?
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4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:
Like me, I think most Bills fans relishes, loves old school style of football in which you pound the rock and play great defense.
That style of play has worked all throughout the history of the NFL from Lombardi's Packers, to Shula's Dolphins, to Joe Gibbs hogs, to Marv's Bills, to the current Ravens with Joe Flacco. Pounding the rock worked then and it still works in today's game.
And yes, even the K-gun with the no huddle was a run first scheme that relied upon Thurman Thomas being 70% of the offense. The Bills used to run Thurman with his cutbacks and teams were so determined to stop him that Kelly would throw to Reed over the linebackers moving up to stop Thurman.
The Ravens have proven you can pound the rock and still properly develop a QB to compete with the rest of the league. Plus, they have won a super bowl with that QB.
I don't entirely disagree with this. but the ravens havent made the playoffs once since 2012 and this year they aren't winning because of the running game. they are 25th in rush yds per game. the bills need to get the pass game worked out to consistently win games. hands down.
EDIT: I think your actual point flew over my head the first time I read. I do agree we can still develop a guy while primarily running and playing defense.
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1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:
Can we ask for more TD’s than interceptions? Completing 60% of your passes?
I think that's reasonable. I don't think he played great yesterday...… I also think adding in some context like game flow and who's around him should be a reasonable factor as well.
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1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:
Yep, you're right. They were an offensive machine yesterday. It was "working".
ya.... that's what I said... please don't put words in my mouth.
and I was referring to the last drive. did it do the job? was it effective? why drop your young passer back to throw when you are rolling down the field on the ground and short passes. seriously man. use you're freaking brain and don't be so extreme about your views.
I say the last drive worked and you go off on a dumbass tangent on how I said the offense was a machine yesterday.
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1 minute ago, Bangarang said:
We’ve gone back to setting the bar as low as possible with QBs.
He didn’t throw up all over himself and throw a bunch of back breaking interceptions. It wasn’t so bad!
right.... if you take out all context then that's what you get.
SMH.
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1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:
Again, only Bills fans can look at an OC completely taking a game out of the hands of the QB as a plus.
why would any OC of any qb make him drop back and risk to's when they can move the chains with safe runs and passes? most teams don't stray away from the safe stuff if its working. that would be foolish. it was a consistent methodical drive.
smarten up man.
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that play shady made on 3rd down on that game winning drive. my god..... he knew we was gonna stick his foot in the ground and reverse field before the ball even got half way to him I think, and the rest of that play was shear WILL. "I will not be denied!".... I realize his time is winding down and I find myself making sure I really soak in those sort of plays now.
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Lots of money to be had in college ball so I rarely put any action on the parity of the nfl. BUT earlier in the week Bovada had the Broncos/jets as a pick’m. That seemed nuts to me so I decided to put a lil’ wager on the elways.
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Watching qb’s from either team get the snap and repeatedly have time to set up and make confident throws is fairly depressing.
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2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I see the problem there. KB can't play nose tackle.
or WR for that matter.
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this is great! doctsons was great and his summary of KB is sadly spot on. i'm seriously surprised when he comes down with the ball at this point.
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The four of us just parked the RV, in from Erie, at brown co. Fairgrounds/campground about 3 miles out of town. Really convenient location. Get some showers and get settled in and then Uber in into town for awhile this evening!
Have fun everybody!
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3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
If you judge by that standard, then you clearly "knew" Peyton Manning was bad by the end of his first year. "Bad. End of story," in your words, and yet, it really wasn't the end of the story for Peyton, anymore than what we've seen so far is the end of the Bills story.
I'm not spinning anything.
Three games simply isn't enough to know. It just isn't.
Particularly not when you're judging a GM who's been on board for one draft and a half a year more, and a GM who promised his owner to clear up the horrible cap situation he'd been left by the previous GM by the end of this year.
right because judging a couple of vets at the top of our wr lineup that are dropping balls is the same as judging a rookie at the hardest position on the field.... good comparison, bruh.
stop it. the wr group was bad last year. it was bad coming into this year. it'll be sorry at the end of the year too.
and i'm not judging beane soley off of this. I like beane and McDermott quite a bit...…… but the wr's blow. i'm confident they know that(even though you don't) and i'm confident they will go about fixing it for the young qb in the future.
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28 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
Prefer them other way around.
Blue shirts, white pants.But either is much better than the all white look which I really dislike.
I don't dislike it. I just feel like they are beating that uniform into the ground over the last couple of years.
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47 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:
I'm expecting a win now, so watch out everybody. That usually means the Bills will lose!
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One thing that excited me almost as much as the LEAP and the win was McD going for it on 4th and goal up 17. He kept the foot on the pedal instead of "taking the points."
I really didn't think he had that in him, as I've very critical of his game management skills. So that was nice to see.
he went for it on fourth from the 1 while we were up on the raiders last year.....
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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:
Don't know where you got that, but elsewhere, STATS has the Bills in a five-way tie for 10th worst with five drops, behind Cleveland and Denver with 6, Jax and the Bengals with 7 and the Vikes with 9.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?range=NFL&rank=232&type=Receiving
And three games and 88 passes are not a great sample yet.
its not about how big the sample size is. It’s about showing how bad they have been in that time. And it’s bad. End of story. There’s really no way to spin it.
The small sample is trending in the wrong direction.
I cant tell you which link is correct but I give yours no more merit than mine. And neither is a good reflection of the wr group. Other posters provide tons of interesting graphics from the nfl matchup graphics like i provided. It’s not just bogus because you posted one citing something different.
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10 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:
With all due respect, it doesn't seem like you've watched the Chiefs or Mahomes at all. The guy is throwing lasers all over the field, it's not just a stacked team, his arm has defenses scrambling and blowing coverages. Watch the TD scramble / throw against KC, he might be the only QB in the NFL who can make that play. The offense around him certainly helps, but to pretend the guy is just throwing screen passes to Tyreke Hill and watching him do all the work scream you are completely ignorant on the subject.
There isn’t one person on the bills that can go up into a crowd and make the catches hill is making for mahomes right now. I can think of 2 or 3 right off the top of my head that were for chunk yds thrown into double and triple coverage that hill made unreal adjustments to the ball on. One might even call the passes ill advised.
That has nothing to do with a screen pass. So maybe let’s not claim ignorance amongst others so quickly.
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9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
This is my personal favorite.
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THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - Outstanding!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Definitely felt like a make-up call. It was a garbage flag and archuleta said as much.