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Arizona is a joke. Figure it out. Nobody has a clue on that state and it’s 8 am the next day.

It’s not. Feel free to be knee jerk reflexive, but the first election post-Roe where R’s went for the kill shot on abortion is not indicative of where the issue will remain moving forward. Every single poll on this shows public sentiment is heavy on legal access through 15 weeks, and then exceptions thereafter. Northern R’s do have an abortion messaging problem though .. as that’s a big reason why Fetterman won, Hassan cruised and Ron Johnson barely escaped. Meanwhile Kemp, Abbott and DeSantis all signed abortion restrictions and expanded their popularity in state. Can’t just pick and choose… Kemp signed one of the strictest abortion laws in the country and won by 8 points. R’s have to continue their Hispanic outreach to offset the fact the Dem Party is essentially the party of women and blacks. Big story re: Gen Z is not that they voted Dem.. That’s always the case with the youngest voting generation. It’s the turnout that was impressive in certain states. Expecting those people to not grow older, have families etc and do the same progression towards the center/right every other generation does is … strange. Although, maybe culture shifts towards workplace trends and marriage/family do keep a larger majority in a place where they stay progressive for life. All the more reason for R’s to embrace DeSantis/Youngkin types and their vibe shift focus on building the party around the white working class, hispanics, suburban moms and small business owners. The political realignment is going to be interesting.

GOP will flip it and talk about candidate quality (fair) and how they made a lot of inroads towards taking the House in ‘20 which is why tonight isn’t so eye opening on that end (also fair). They’ll also point to the map for Congress being much better for the GOP in ‘24 (again, fair) But the the overarching takeaway from tonight is that Trump is toxic and he, for the second election in a row, completely f***ed over the GOP by pushing his candidates. Abortion messaging needs to be better for R’s, but I don’t see this being a massive issue again in ‘24, given the recency power of this fading. It will be an issue, but not the damaging one that drives northern democrats in their obsession to legalize any/all killing of unborn children. It also doesn’t totally add up given abortion measures are state level policy and DeSantis, Kemp, Dewine, Abbott all did phenomenal…. All signed abortion restrictions.

Ive made my opinion of Trump and his bs very well known in this thread, but I kind of don’t blame her. Hobbs running the election, and it being such a dumpster fire earlier today, ehh… if she loses and wants to wild out, I’ll allow it.

Guttmacher institute (they conduct polling for PP) found that most abortions after the first trimester are elective. Typically due to change in economic status or the father leaving the picture. It’s a fallacy to keep saying nobody is having elective abortions after 12-15 weeks. Most are elective in the second trimester with third trimester elective abortions being much more rare, obviously.

As a conservative, I really want to like our Libertarian cousins, but y’all have to go to stop killing Republicans in key races. The libertarian in the Georgia Senate race has 2%… awesome, hope those voters are happy with themselves.

R’s are horrible at abortion messaging. Media helps D’s like the good lapdogs they are. Reality is the vast majority of Americans, politically, agree with Lindsey Graham. Abortion legal up to 15 weeks, with exceptions after. Poll after poll indicates this. But R’s went for the throat immediately after Roe dropped and got branded the extremists. Damaging especially in the more progressive northern states.

People still love him. I know quite a few that are still defending him and making excuses for him tonight. It’s beyond frustrating. I’ll vote for Trump if he’s the nominee, but tonight finally got me to the point where I am truly starting to dislike him.

Super excited, as someone who spends a lot of time in Atlanta, that Trump’s candidate choices and the dumpster fire state of Pennsylvania is making us sit through another runoff that may decide the Senate. Awesome. Fun times.

Hilariously ridiculous reason to not vote for someone, and I think you’re correct, which just reinforces my view that PA is a wildly low IQ state. I’ve seen enough South Park type characters interviewed about Oz saying they don’t like that he’s from Jersey, to believe this is a real issue for them.

Anyone who votes before any debates is either a partisan voter (which is fine) or an idiot (which is not fine) and judging by narratives coming out of PA, there’s a lot of idiots who regret their vote. PA voted for Trump because he was “one of us”… Fetterman has that same appeal. Policy/Functionality be damned, we just want big goofballs who we’d have a drink with. Don’t really have much respect for that electorate at the moment.

Trump is weird where he has a chance to win the Rust Belt states like PA, MI, WI but also has a high chance of losing states R’s shouldn’t lose in a General like Georgia and Arizona. Regardless.. Tonight should be a wake up call to a lot of people that DeSantis, or even Youngkin, are the future … not a dude who’s all about himself.

New York is a lost cause. Joke of a state. Feel bad for my friends and family still living on Long Island. NYC Dems run the state and y’all get to deal with it if you don’t have the ability to leave.

Anyone still riding with Trump after tonight is a Democrats best friend. Two of his party adversaries beat the **** out of their opponents in DeSantis & Kemp. Meanwhile, his dumpster fire candidates are likely heading to a runoff in GA, getting smoked by a vulnerable Dem in NH and currently running at a 90% chance to lose to a dude who can’t even hold a conversation in PA. Oh, and his first statement of the night is attacking a …. Republican, Joe O’Dea

If he’s out 1-2 games, I could see a VERY motivated “win it for Josh” Bills team out there in front of a home crowd. If he’s out 4-6 games, I’d worry of a bit of a letdown against a good team as they recalibrate and move forward.

NFL Network clip going around stating "Bills are hopeful Allen can practice and play through it".

"I can feel it down in my plums .. getting ready to take em down to the farmers market"

The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking there is zero chance the Bills can let Allen go out there and discuss injury status, regardless of the status, before McDermott sets designations tomorrow. This era of high profile players going on high profile shows is relatively new. Is there any precedent for a player going on a show without anyone knowing their injury status when it's this high profile... or even at all?

This has been addressed a bunch of times in this thread. You can play on a torn ACL. You just can't make quick lateral movements. You can throw with a UCL injury. You just can't launch it 70 yards if there is serious structural damage.

It could just be one game... minor strain and they just want to be cautious. I'd be shocked if he's playing Sunday given the mystery surrounding this now... HOWEVER, they're not going to have Allen self announce he's out Sunday, even if it's just Sunday. Heck, they may not even want him self-announcing he's questionable for Sunday fwiw.

This is where I'm at. If he went on today, I'd be hopeful he may say it was a minor tweak and he's hopeful to get out there on Sunday. Reading the tea leaves, this is to allow McDermott to brief the press that he's out X amount of games and give a timeline/breakdown of what we're dealing with. Maybe we're all way off, but Kyle Brandt and Josh Allen didn't just randomly have a scheduling conflict on a show they do every week.

It's not good or bad, but mysterious happenings aren't exactly what anyone wants when dealing with an injury/player of this magnitude.

Brandt/Allen moved to tomorrow

Ha.. it’s in incredibly important county in Nevada. Jon Ralston just tweeted out those numbers as well, with an ominous tone for Dems. We’ll see though .. Nevada Election Day party affiliations can go from heavy R early to evening up with Dems later in the day. … at least in Clark County that’s been a typical pattern.

I'd put heavy odds on us going 4-2 in division (as long as JA is only out short term) I do not see the Jets or Fins sweeping us, with both games remaining Buffalo, and the Pats are the worst team of the three with two remaining against them.