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If I'm a Patriots assistant and teams are looking for a coach I do everything I can do get one of those jobs. It's amazing how this teams looks without Brady

4th and Goal from the 2. Blitz and make Cam beat you with his arm.

Tells you about the backups. They'll probably draft someone. I also wouldn't be surprised if they took a shot on Wentz or try and trade for Garropollo. The QB spot will be their focus over the offseason

Well at this point I hope the Patriots beat the Dolphins next week now.

When was the last time the Bills were favored over the Steelers? Or a 11 win team at any point of the season? Crazy... and to think they're only going to get better next year too

Browns have had a soft schedule. Don't get me wrong... of all the wild card teams they're the one I don't want the Bills to play but beating up on Cincy, Jags, and the NFC East doesn't strike fear into me. They've played 5 playoff teams. Losses to: Steelers, Ravens, Raiders Wins against: Colts, Titans.

I doubt it. I only see it happening if the Bills draft a stud WR but they have other needs. I know his age is going to be working against him in a few years but there are few defenses that can stack up to Diggs-Beasley-Brown-Davis and not get burned.

It's an option for the team...... that means Team Control. Teams leverage the franchise tag into signing players long term. SO after 5 years when Jefferson is 26 the team will leverage the franchise tag and have him sign for probably between 4-6 years. After 4 years Diggs will be 30; it is less likely the Bills will sign him to a longer term deal; if anything they'll use a franchise tag maybe once due to age or sign him to a shorter deal. This isn't even like a prediction; it's what 99% of the clubs with franchise players do. The only thing that gets in the way of that imo is injury which I'm not going to include in this conversation for either Diggs or Jefferson.

I'm not saying the Vikings have complete control. I'm saying they are more likely to sign Jefferson than the Bills are to signing Diggs. You keep trying to make points as a way to counter me.... they don't. You aren't taking into age. You keep acting like Jefferson is going to walk away and the Vikings will after 5 years (remember Vikings get 5th year option). Also Diggs is only signed for 4 years so once again: you're wrong.

Washington really does a great job of getting thier hands up to deflect balls. Washington made them one dimesion and took away the deep ball. Pittsburgh has been a dink and dunk offense all year and they finally got a team that exposed them for it. I expect them to come out angry after every one in the media is saying how trash they have played in the last month.

I don't really think the Bills needed a veteran presence. They have Beasley and Brown as WRs... you think Diggs provides a veteran presence with that group? He helps Josh because Josh is looks for him often on 3rd down (especially with no John Brown) Jefferson is controlled longer than Diggs because of age. Jefferson will get another contract with the Vikings (or they'll franchise tag him). Diggs isn't getting a Franchise tag at 31 and even if he did he isn't going to get a long term extension like Jefferson. Let's not pretend that Diggs is going to play until he is 38 at a high level

Someone already mentioned it. He said he watched Allen in Oct and Nov and he had 10 TDs to 9 TOs. Didn't mention Total TDs though which would have added 5. It's like saying Lamar Jackson's 2019 was mediocre because he only had 36 TDs and 3k yards... you're kind of missing something. They brought up what they think Allen's contract will look like (around 40m) and he was like "I wouldn't even pay Baker that much!"

I did answer that. 100% he would.

They aren't super unsimilar. And everyone does it: Who is the best WR in football right now? You don't say "depends on if you mean a slot receiver or a deep route" it's all or nothing. Diggs for 5 years isn't as valuable as Jefferson for 10. Yeah yeah, we also didn't trade Mahomes we traded the pick that became Mahomes. The pick was used to select Jefferson so that's the argument. Do I think Jefferson would be a better receiver? Yes, I do. Vikings gave him limited snaps in the first two weeks. Bills have thrown 428 times this year; Vikings 363. And yet Jefferson has put up similar yardage. He is their #1 WR Dumb. This is his rookie season and he will put up a better season that Diggs has ever had in terms of stats. This is the Steven A. Smith award for "he's unproven and therefore not great". Guess Allen sucks because he hasn't won a playoff game? That is a fair point. Very good point. No doubt that Diggs has more knowledge and has contributed to Josh's growth. What you aren't stating is how Jefferson is 5 years younger. He could be a difference make for 10 years. Diggs is probably 5. I don't want short term success. I want long term success.

I would love it to be the Bills vs. Bucs because A. The Bills would be in the Superbowl B. Because the Bucs aren't good and the Bills would avoid the Packers and Saints

My favorite things from the week have been the Baker is better than Josh group. I lol'd. Skip Bayless and Nick Wright. Some people can't get out of their own way. Not sure if I like Nick's cherry picked stats or Skip's reason of liking Baker more as intangibles (leadership). Neither of these two have watched a Bills game that wasn't: Titans, Chiefs, 49ers this year.

Negative. What is means is if you put 100 down right now you'd win 1500 if Allen became MVP. Mahomes is -400. So you have to bet 400 to win 100.

I do think the weather hurt Allen more than Mahomes when they played. I know Allen was playing through an injury but he was missing some wide open WRs. Definitely changes the narrative. If the Steelers had no dropped passes Monday night I think they win that game... I think if it wasn't raining Allen has a better game and who knows? If Buffalo gets out to a lead over KC and Reid gets Pass Happy they could knock them off

I really don't understand why anyone thinks throwing Minnesota's record out there is something! He's won them more games than Diggs has won Buffalo. Ask Vikings fans: http://www.vikingsmessageboard.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38009 Diggs has more targets and catches but Jefferson has more TDs and yardage. Vikings are run first. Bills are pass first. Jefferson and Allen could have been the best QB-WR for the next decade. Lets make sure we bump this thread in a year or two and see how everyone is feeling.

Beasley has more yards and catches than Theilen. This isn't including John Brown. It's very clear many of you haven't watched Justin Jefferson play.

We are taking about individuals not team. Unless you are talking about a QB I doubt a single player changes a 6-6 club into a 9-3 club. The Bills are 9-3 with Diggs not because of Diggs

Of the 3 major WR stats: Yardage, TDs and catches: Jefferson is ahead of Diggs on two of them

Jefferson is already very good at running routes (not as good as Diggs). He is better in the Red Zone. He is cheaper and has more potential than Diggs. I'm not saying Diggs is bad by any means I'm not. This is a rare situation where you traded for a top 10 WR and traded away the pick that went towards a WR that will probably will be a top 5 WR in 2 years (he's that talented). Jefferson is going to finish the season with: 80 catches, 1300 yards and 10 TDs. Those are crazy numbers! Only Boldin and Moss will finish with better rookie seasons.

In one situation? Yes. Who do you want in the red zone? Who stretches the field? Whose contract would you like? They have the same yardage right now. Jefferson has 3 more TDs and he is a rookie, imagine what he will do in the next few years

They are two different types of receivers but Justin Jefferson is going to be a better WR than Diggs and may already be. Contract is better for 5 year. So I don't really know if it silences the trade skeptics honestly.