ChiGoose

Specific to the Manhattan case (the SOX issue is a different case) multiple people have been charged with felony falsification of business records in connection with an election campaign (what Trump is facing): Clarence Norman was convicted of felony falsification of business records in connection with campaign finance violations. Richard Brega was charged with, and plead guilty to, felony falsification of business records to conceal election law violations Richard Luthmann was charged with, and plead guilty to, felony falsification of business records in furtherance of election law violations. John Dote was charged with, and plead guilty to, felony falsification of business records in connection to election law violations.

This is just incorrect based on the law and previous cases. Multiple politicians have been found guilty for similar acts under this law. Those convictions were not overturned on appeal. Once again, if the goal was a grand conspiracy by everyone to stop Trump, he’d already be behind bars for violating terms of his bail.

Agreed. It’d be a hell of a lot more.

It’s almost as if Obama wasn’t a big LGBTQ ally at first. Ironically, Biden was the one who pushed him towards the right idea on this.

By breaking the law in an attempt to influence the outcome. He should have just paid out of the campaign fund and gotten a slap on the wrist by the FEC (if even that).

Trump violates his gag orders so frequently and routinely that if it were literally anyone else, they’d almost certainly have been locked up for contempt. If this really was some vast organized conspiracy to stop Trump, he’d already be behind bars.

You literally said I was trying to whip up war. You don’t believe that whipping up war is pro-war?

Russia invades Chechnya: surely they won’t do anything like this again Russia invades Chechnya again: surely they won’t do anything like this again Russia invades Georgia: surely they won’t do anything like this again Russia invades Ukraine: surely they won’t do anything like this again Russia invades Ukraine again: surely they won’t do anything like this again Russian leaders say that Latvia is like Ukraine because it doesn’t exist and that other former USSR countries in Europe were actually part of Russia while Russian separatists control land in Moldova: surely they don’t mean it

I guess not wanting broader war is being pro-war now. Advocating to allow a revanchist country to run roughshod over any country they want is anti-war now. Weird world you all live in.

How do you think this ends if we don’t aid Ukraine? What do you think happens if Russia takes over Ukraine?

Josh Allen will never win a Super Bowl. I know this because he hasn’t. Same logic.

That’s it? That’s all you’ve got? Putin wouldn’t have invaded because he didn’t invade before?

Why do you think Putin wouldn’t have invaded under Trump?

Majority of Americans support sending aid to Ukraine, poll says “A majority of Americans (53%) support sending weapons and military aid to Ukraine, according to a new CBS News poll conducted with the market research firm, YouGov.” More Americans Say U.S. Is Not Helping Ukraine Enough “This is the first time that less than 30% of Americans say the U.S. is doing the right amount to support Ukraine, which was the most common view as recently as June, when 43% held this opinion.”

What do you think happens when Russia takes over Ukraine? They just pack up their bags and head back to Moscow and we all live happily ever after? You think you’re making a point but you’re really not. I never supported or voted for Obama. His misplaying of Russia was probably his biggest failure as president.

You’ve really bought into the propaganda, haven’t you? Full on Neville Chamberlain thinking. Russia has already said that they wouldn’t stop the war since Ukraine was running out of ammo. They were winning, why not keep pressing to Kiev, kill the leadership and take over the whole country? They also said that Latvia is a fake country. They said Ukraine isn’t real, and then they invaded it. Now they are saying another country isn’t real. What do you think their plans are? They’ve also claimed that the Baltic states belong to Russia. I don’t want war. I wish Russia hadn’t invaded. But I’m not dumb enough to believe that letting them win in Ukraine ends things. In their minds, Ukraine is just the beginning.

(citation needed)

If you really want to help the military industrial complex, you’d oppose funding for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. That way, Russia can roll into Europe, Iran can spark a full out war in the Middle East, and China can start seizing their neighbors. WWIII would be a much bigger cash grab than a single war in one European country.

Yeah, turns out that Russia is a revanchist anti-democratic country with a desire to destroy the west. Remember when Mitt Romney correctly called Obama out for his Russia reset? Or when McCain and Congress had to push back against the Obama administration to pass the Magnitsky Act?

I actually do read what right wingers say. I generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt instead of saying they believe what I expect them to believe based on how I’ve sorted them in my mind. The projection is actually coming from within your house, buddy.

I do enjoy how the conservatives here constantly talk like they know what liberals think and feel only to reveal that they actually have no idea because they apparently only get information about liberals from right wing sources.

Is being gullible as all hell a requirement to be a conservative these days or does it just make it easier?

I guess you forgot that Russia actually invaded Ukraine. You know that big war thing that caused people to pay attention to Ukraine? Libs by and large don’t care about Hunter Biden.

If your argument is that Trump is a whirling dervish of crime to the point that your can’t not charge the guy, totally agree. Also, thousands of BLM protestors were arrested and hundreds were charged. So maybe look into your “facts” here.

At least a Pinto can go through a carwash without voiding the warranty