Patrick Duffy

Well the Packers game it was said Jackson and Wallace are still competing for CB2. So unless something has changed since Saturday that I somehow missed, I'd say that ship is still at the dock and not quite ready to sail off yet.

We don't know if it paid off or not yet. Jackson and Wallace still competing for CB2. I agree about being a little thin at CB, but can't say Dane Jackson hasn't paid off when it remains to be seen

I can understand the young age excuse has played it's course for some too. For me, as far as last season goes I take the injury into account being a factor and I'm not quite ready to write him off just yet. This season hopefully will be more injury free for most part and hope to see him have a good enough year to put all this to rest.

Yeah dude, I don't know about you, but to me he lost credibility with the "Mariota has been a good starter" comment lol.

Neal. I would say Neil is elite and Taiwan is very good. Ok. Well I can't argue with that. I guess it's just something I haven't took enough notice to clearly see a difference. Both are usually pretty fast getting down there so guess I just never put much thought in it.

I don't know about necessarily being wrong about anything, but I will say a couple players didn't have quite as good of a TC/preseason as I was hoping they would.

In your opinion, who would you say is the best gunner? I honestly don't know if it's enough difference to honestly say one is that much better than another.

I'm sorry, but I chuckled a little bit at this comment.

I think so too. I believe some teams will take that risk obviously due to reasons you stated. Even if he does happen to get suspended and miss some time, or even misses a whole season. A team I think will still take the risk knowing they have a top QB for the following season and so forth

I think I remember seeing some say at times he would hit the wrong gap and not about being bad at hitting the gap in general? I don't know, but I do recall seeing some talk about he hit wrong gap here and there before for what it's worth.

Ok, so you named rookies that are unknowns. Rest of the list in no way I would take over Mitch right now as a QB2.

I agree he's had some struggles and whatnot. Do you think him being as young as he was when drafted to even now still being very young might make him need a little more time ( as far as a learning process goes)? Or do you think he's had plenty of time by now young or not? Wasn't he like one of the youngest LB's in a long time or ever? Or something like that. He was like 19 when drafted right? I don't know, I'm just saying...some say there's a learning curve to the MLB position.

That's a great story. Small world. Can only imagine how low the chances are that 2 ppl as children in same area like that growing up both end up not only making it to the NFL ( which is incredible itself), but on the same team.

I'd like to see Stevenson be the main guy. That way don't have to add that extra risk factor with McKenzie

I kinda get both sides of it. Some feel he hasn't lived up to expectations yet, or at least been more of an "impact MLB" than they feel he has considering he was a high pick at least by now in his career. Some feel he has done enough and for now are satisfied with it due to he's such a young MLB and still has much to learn. I get that too. With all that said, where I stand with it is I'm not ready to write him off just yet. Obviously he had a rough go last season but also acknowledge he was injured for a lot of last season too, which I feel even the ppl that's pretty much done with him can agree that injury played at least a sizable part in that. So in conclusion, for me I want to see a hopefully healthy season this time and also hope he has learned more.

I'm kinda leaning that way but at same time realize it is possible he could in the future. You stated as a "true #1 as commonly understood". Curious as to what you would commonly understand as a true #1. For instance to me a true #1 WR comes to mind, I think of a player that has reliable hands, good route runner that has awareness of not only where he is on the field and makes the tough catches, but also smart enough to take advantage of different defenses. Also has speed, although does not have to be the fastest, and can separate well. With that said, Davis has shown he has alot of that already. I understand he needs work on separation, but I think he will improve that also. If he can keep all that up going forward, I mean he could certainly have a good shot at being a #1 WR sometime in the future. Idk, just my 2 cents

Could use a worse word than horrific lol.

Well one things for sure, as long as Diggs is on this roster Davis won't be the #1 WR, or even competing for #1WR. I think we can all agree on that... so that means it would depend on how some things go between now and then. Whenever the time comes that Diggs leaves (hopefully a good 4 years at least) if Davis is still there and has continued to improve throughout that time to be a #1, or compete for it. imo he's just got to improve the separation part of his game the most, but has to be a pretty clear improvement. Everything else he does is good and can still get even better at that. He is definitely a very good, young, up and coming WR for sure. But if he can get to the point he can separate with the best of em, it is very possible he could be a #1 WR in the future.

Lol, I think he probably can't wait to tear it up. He knows he's going to have a blast on this offense. I look forward to it seeing it.

I don't know about a #1WR. It's possible I guess later in his career. I do think he can be a strong #2 though. In any event, I think Beane got one hell of a WR. I'm sure many didn't expect him to play so well as fast as he did. I mean as a rookie, the kid literally came out the gate making plays last season. He may have trouble with separation at times, but he's got good, reliable hands and also he's always aware where he is on the field which is also important for a WR. That's also impressive as a rookie he already had that type of field awareness and it shows making those mouth dropping tip toe catches on side line in bounds like that. Those type of things kinda makes up for what separation issues he has at times (which I think that will also improve going forward). So with all that said, I guess it would depend if he's still with the Bills after Diggs time is up. If so, by that time it's possible he could compete for the #1WR depending on what WR's are on roster by then.

Agree, have considered Jones a lock myself. I know some don't, but hard for me not to see him on this team

Was actually going to post basically what you did in bold. Didn't see it at first because I kinda just skimmed through it, but yeah anyways, was going to say I won't be surprised to see Hollister become the starting TE and might could be early in the season. Guess we will see how much it may have helped, if any at all, Knox's off-season training with...(think it was ping pong balls or something?) did for him.

Gotcha....I must say though regarding Ford that imo he has been a little disappointing anyway considering where he was drafted. Have just been hoping to see some improvement after some point. At least by now, or before now for that matter. Anyways, will see how it goes.

Well yeah, you can't compare anything to Darnold anyways. And I agree, that staff did him no favors. Curious to see what he does in Carolina with a better staff (which pretty much every teams staff is better than Gase). Anyways, I agree he will struggle at times as expected with rookie QB's. Unless he surprises and has a rookie season similar to Herbert.

I get your point and all, but I mean you're pointing out just 2 plays. Lots of players have a bad play or 2 throughout the course of a game. It happens. With that said, in your opinion, did the plays he did well doing his assignment out number those 2 bad ones that stick out to you?