Rochesterfan

So let’s challenge this a bit - all drives starting in the first quarter - so close game and lots of time left. On first down the Bills ran the ball 2 times - once for a 9 yard gain on the first play and once for a 1 yard TD by Allen (QB sneak). They passed the ball on first down 6 times (one was a sack) and got a passing TD to Jones. At that point they built a 14 point lead. Then I agree they get an itch and try to run more in the second quarter with the lead - 3 first downs - 3 runs and the half ends tied. 3rd quarter they rebuilt the lead there were 3 first down runs and 4 first down passes with one of those pass attempts ending up as an Allen scramble. They rebuilt the lead to 11 points by the end of the 3 quarter. The 4th quarter - especially early saw the same aggression with 4 out of 5 first down plays as drop backs with one Allen scramble for his 30 yard TD. At that point they were up big and running the clock and ran the ball on 2 of their last 3 first downs. For the game they ran the ball 11 times on first down including a QB sneak for a TD. They dropped back to pass the ball 15 times on first down with one of them being a sack and 2 ending up as Allen scrambles. The passing on first down continued even when they were up 35 to 17 and then the Kyle Williams pass at 42 to 17. I do agree they get conservative at times, but I think they understand the best way to protect a QB is to try and keep them in manageable downs and distances.

It was not just the last game, but keep believing that if it makes you feel better. They have gone for 4th downs over 18 times this year - top half of the league. That number has increased as the offense and Allen has settled in. He has also had (like this week) a few 4th down attempts negated by penalty- like yesterday’s false start or we would be in the upper 3rd of the league. I do not think he is conservative and I do not think he is aggressive- I think he was playing very much into the strength of his team last year and earlier this year - his defense. Once Allen got got his feet wet and showed what he could do (about the last 4 weeks) and they started working things - he has switched focus and been more aggressive. I would never call him Jauron 2.0 because that is just plain wrong.

Guess I would really like a better understanding of the conservative game planning. We go go for it on 4th down - numerous times around the field - yes he has occasionally punted on 4th down around mid-field, but he also goes for it at several places. Once again before the half - he allowed a young rookie QB to throw to try and get points and it cost him a pick, but he still let him throw. What I see is a defensive coach that has some gambler in him, but has a very young and very untalented team and that seems to drive some decisions. Late in the half he likes to run on first down to see what the opponent is going to do. He want to eat some clock and try to ensure that he gets the ball last. I thought this year as the team got experience he has opened things up and taken more risks, but there are some people that have already labeled him a bust and ultra conservative when he has had a very bad team and has made the playoffs once already. Gotta Love it ?

I believe he got to the initial scrum late, but went flying in. There is another flag thrown right after he hits the pile going after Quinn. I believe he was ejected for that and then Quinn swung at his head and grabbed the face mask. I thought the refs did pretty good with the calls to get Alonzo out after his second personal foul and then the two late comers. Glad to see Ike go right at Kiko after the play.

There are other including the CDC - do a search or not - there are cases and there are listed articles out there about deaths. You can choose what side you want to fall on - either way, but there are not just single articles. Plus just do a quick search for Colorado and motor vehicle issues and a ton of marijuana related articles will pop up. As I have said repeatedly - compared to other drugs it is not as bad, but it is still a drug and has all of the same issues every other drug has. To call it 100% safe and say that no one in the history of the world has ever died from overdose was the point of my contention- that is simply not true.

I never said it was not

Do a quick Google search of THC overdose or death. For Example: https://www.transformationstreatment.center/resources/overdose/many-people-died-weed/ http://www.poppot.org/2018/04/18/truth-deaths-by-marijuana-overdose/ These do not include the slew of newer vehicle related issues that are being seen in legal states like Colorado. Again It is nothing compared to other drugs, but to say no one has ever overdosed or that it is impossible is just wrong. It also does not include deaths when weed is laced with other things and people have psychotic effects. The facts are that it has been legal in states for a short time and numbers seem to be rising. Now - I could not care less- legal/illegal, use it or don’t, but to say there has never been an overdose or death is just wrong. It is like the argument that it is non addictive- yet people that smoke pot and are forced to stop have relapses, or can’t stop, and have other withdrawal type psychological symptoms. I think there are a lot of good things to be gained from CBD and other cannabinol substances, but it is still a drug and still has similar issues as other drugs.

This is not correct - there have been numerous cases of children and teens that have died from overdose and the numbers are increasing. It is becoming more common as more edibles are being produced and children are getting their hands on it. Yes it is more rare than alcohol, but as it becomes more widespread- the number of cases have increased. It is also been attributed to an increasing number of deaths associated with motor vehicle accidents. It is not impossible to overdose, but the levels needed are quite high. THC is also becoming the next Vitamin D - the most recent miracle cure. Doctors attributed everything from mood changes to cancer to diabetes cure to Viamin D and because you produced Vitamin D from the sun - the thought was no one could overdose. Then they started doing studies and found it was not much better than placebo. We will see how THC fares. We know that CBD has some positive effects, but does the added THC have any real effect.

I do not see him getting into coaching. I think he wants time with his family and a coach spends even more time than the players away from family teaching and watching film.

I totally disagree about the roster. The roster is squarely on the previous GM that overpayed for guys and then gave stupid contracts. The decisions by McDermott and Beane were made to begin cleaning up the mess - getting rid of underperforming players on larger contracts - Like MD. Using assets that they did not see here long term (Watkins) to get other assets. Yes the lack of talent was because of decisions by this regime, but were made to clear up previous decisions that were poorly made. The rest of the post is mostly hot garbage - great have them draft Mahomes two years ago - what do you think he looks like in a Bills uniform. He was raw and needed time to sit - do you think under TT he learns what he learned with Alex Smith having a career year. Do you think that without all of the talent that KC was getting for years for Smith that Mahomes would be successful throwing to KB, Jones, and the injured Clay. Also how would he have looked starting in the middle of his first season in a Dennison offense rather than getting to sit and learn under a Reid offense. My feeling is we would be sitting here talking about a bust at QB and when do we move on. I have the same issue with JuJu and Vander Esche. Both of them are fits as pieces on their current team. Is JuJu significantly better without Brown, the TEs, and experienced QB getting him the ball in Pittsburgh. Does he have just pedestrian numbers with TT and the motley collection of QBs throwing to him and are we questioning why we did not draft Jones because he ends up on a team like LA or Pittsburgh. Vander Esche is a typical MLB and I think would be a good fit, but I understand the Edmunds pick. They are looking for more of a coverage deep LB and Edmunds fits that better than Vander Esche.

The defense definitely had it moments where it dominated and I think they have a chance if given time, but I think they were surprised to get Rosen and now want a offensive guy to work with the young QB. I do not think that was really the plan, but now they are adjusting. It is sucks for that staff.

Neither Opioids or Marijuana in moderation are an issue, but just like alcohol or other prescription drugs - when abused they cause problems. The issue is that opioids are being abused and people are bringing in tainted drugs like laced Fentanyl and it is killing people. Many people (including NFL players) could use CBD oil for treatment and get many of the same effects - especially with quick absorbing oil under the tongue that gets into the system as fast as smoking weed, but you lose the good feeling associated with weed. The difficult part is why is someone taking or using the weed are they abusing it or taking it for management of illness. What studies are showing in states that have legalized pot use - is that the number of “high” drivers and accidents are up because they are looking for it now and it is becoming a huge issue. Another issue is that until there is good long term benefits versus risks analysis done and the actual rate of addiction is determined- everything is just people’s opinion. I always hear people say well pot is not addicting and that is bull as can be shown by the number of people that continue even when it will cost them their job or livelihood. The drug may not be as addictive as something like opioids, but the feeling created becomes something you crave and that becomes addictive. There are also studies being done looking at how feelings of anxiety and depression initially become better, but after long term use - the feelings get stronger making user crave more drug and faster between use doses.

CBD could be used - it typically has very low levels of other cannabinoids and THC that is in the drug testing. Plus at the NFL level the THC cutoff is quite high as they raised levels. In reality if players wanted to actually treat illness they could do it with CBD oil and most likely never get caught if they are getting the oil from a respectable company that removes as many impurities as possible. The problem is that players are not using it for illness - even if they try to use it as an excuse. They are getting high and that is banned.

Seantrel smoked Weed before he ever had Crones Disease. He was suspended multiple times for weed abuse going back to college. If it was about the disease he could of worked with the NFL for an exemption, but he did not because it was not the CBD to treat the disease he craved - it was the actual pot and the high feeling. There are treatments using CBD that can be helpful without getting the high feeling.

As of this moment - please tell me exactly how many former Panthers are on the roster and active on Sunday? Star is your answer and that is it. You also have Anderson on the roster until the end of the year. It is not like we are some hotbed of Carolina Players.

I think it was a total miscalculation by the FO staff. I do not think they felt there was a shot at one of the top 4 QBs - so they signed Bradford for 2 years and were sort of going to go for it. They hired a rookie HC with a veteran OC and a familiar DC for the HC. I think they felt the defense was good enough and getting a veteran QB to go with Johnson and FITZ - they had a chance to be competitive- especially if they got a playmaker in the early rounds. The issue was when both QBs started to drop the entire mindset of the organization changed - now they have a rookie QB, a veteran QB that was not playing well and it switched to being all about the future. Therefore if you have the young QB they are going to try and switch it up and no they never gave him a chance. I think things would be totally different if they had not taken Rosen - because the Arizona defense was never the issue and they are going to totally change things up on an aging defense.

I would not mind bringing in Wilks - would prefer to see Al Holcomb come in as DC in either case - I like him over Wilks and Frazier.

Of course teams are banged up - this happens every year - later in the season with scores of tape to watch and the ability to game plan and really understand what is being accomplished- the defenses begin to react and we start to see more and more close/low scoring games. As each game becomes more important and as players are slowed down and the weather further impacts teams - defense becomes more important and offenses struggle. The Playoffs ratchet it up even more and to get to the Super Bowl you typically need at least one game where your defense pulls you through. What I find interesting is the Super Bowl can go either way depending on how long between games and how familiar the teams are. If two teams are familiar and there is enough tape - defense is a bit more dominant, but lack of familiarity leads to offensive advantages. For example the switch from Wentz to Foles last year changed the entire Philly offense and Philosophy giving them a bit of an advantage especially being super aggressive. Defenses tend to play more basic coverages and attack less against the unknown. You need both a good offense and a good defense to be successful, but to say as people did early in the year - defense is dead and this staff should be fired for trying to build a defense - that has been proven to be wrong. As to the offense not being turned around - the Bills through their own choices had very limited money to spend and recognized where they were defensively and that the offense would get new life with the QB. Since you do not know who you are getting in the draft - it is very hard to build an offense around an unknown. The WRs, OL, TE, RB needed for JA is very different than Josh Rosen or Sam Darnold. By the time the Bills had drafted Allen - most of the WRs had been signed because free agency comes first. What we saw is that the team recognized what they needed on offense and what they could get and their offense has been getting better with the limited people they could get during the season. Give them a chance now that they have money and knowledge of their QB to build around him. I do not think they will be complete after one off season, but I think they can improve the offense and keep most of the defense - they can be good and then they can keep growing.

Agreed - if they are going to make that change then I think you have to make a bunch of other changes around the goal line. People need to be down in the end zone rather than just break the plain. There are several times guys just barely break the plain and are not down and then fumble because they carelessly reach out the ball. The end end zone has always had different rules for many things than the middle of the field and the turnover aspect of OOB plays is one of them.

The current rule is consistent - if you fumble OOB of your end zone - it s a safety and the defensive team gets the ball. If you fumble OOB in the other end zone - again the defense gets the ball. The rules are actually consistent if the offense fumbles OOB in either end zone they turn the ball over to the defense. The rule is fine for the limited number of times either occur.

I like the current rule - fumbles everywhere else through 90% of the game do not move back to the spot. I think it makes sense to greatly penalize a team for a fumble in the most important area - especially with how the goal line changes other rules for the offense. So the team that fumbled the ball get the ball in the middle of the end Zone? A fumble out of bounds is marked where it goes out of bounds not where the fumble occurs. If they are going to change the rule near the end zone then the rule needs to be updated across the field with all fumbles being moved back to the spot and not advancement - so for example the Zay Jones Fumble into the end zone recovered by Buffalo for a TD gets moved back to the 3 yard line.

The inactive thing as has been stated multiple times in this thread was to balance out rosters on game day and allow injured players to sit without losing them. For example if all 53 men were active for the last game - the Bills had multiple players Ivory, McCoy, Lewis, etc that were hurt and could not play; therefore if Detroit had no injuries and the Bills had 4 or 5 injuries - Detroit could theoretically use 53 Guys, while the Bills would have been more limited to 48 guys. The League and players association decided that 46 for both teams would be the active roster allowing 7 players to sit so that injuries did not unbalance the playing field before the game starts. Both teams can draw on the same number of players. It is smart and makes a ton of sense to allow guys with muscle pulls and strains or a 1 week shoulder injury to miss a game without having to use IR and have teams stash players so they can try to get talent from other teams once their season is over.

Exactly and the 46 active and 53 total is part of player safety- it maintains balance - same number active on each team - while allowing injured and semi-injured players to sit for the week. If the entire 53 man roster was active then a guy like Ivory probably ends up back in the game because others were hurt. I may be in the minority, but I do not care if they expand the rosters - there is too much specialization that goes on as it is. 3rd down LBs, special teams only (gunner) and pass catching backs - eliminate that and have a balanced roster and you would be fine. There are some changes I would be fine with - I do not mind if they up the PS and make some 2 way players and adjust short term IR rules, but it has to be very limited to prevent stashing players and teams taking advantage of the rules. You also would still need inactives or the ability to have 3 or so people inactive due to injuries and have a balanced number of active players on the roster. If you are going to up the roster size - I would also make changes to how teams deal with in game injury. If a player is hurt and trainers come out onto the field - I think they should be required to sit out a specific amount of time or number of plays making sure staff can evaluate them and then stop the players just pretending to be hurt to slow plays down. I would love to see players have to sit out a quarter or 15 plays from their side of the ball rather than just one play. My Opinion.

Exactly. I think it also points to the ownership and leadership of the Bills and the Sabers - Josh is out in front as this was his guy, but that kind of coordination means the entirety of both organizations was on board and willing to help out. I think this points directly to the Pegula family and how they are working to rebuild and rebrand Buffalo - everything from the “One Buffalo” to working and sharing resources to advance both teams screams family and I think this is just a part of that. I also love how it counters the other growing feeling of how scummy the NFL has become filled with abusive players - 99% of the league is filled with great men and women that fly under the radar and the 1% get the coverage - this and the cleats piece show the underlying good these guys do for no recognition or reward - just to give back.

Amazing story! This I believe is what McDermott and Beane meant when they said Josh is Buffalo. Many people thought they were referring to arm strength and weather, but it seems obvious they are building a family and he has heart and character oozing out of him. He was a leader of men - he is becoming a leader of the entire organization. Great job and great video.