transplantbillsfan

Weird.... I thought you told me you ignore jm, Crusher and Thurm? Is it an "ignore unless I have an obvious opportunity to belittle" policy you have, instead?

Peterman has one of the weakest throwing arms I've ever seen. I can really see why he fell to the fifth round. Unfortunately, if Taylor can man up this year then our franchise QB is clearly not on the roster. I know that everyone is jumping for joy at quick decisions that Peterman is making, but if you watch the velocity on some of these throws he's just gonna get exposed during the regular season ala Jeff Tuel against the Cleveland Browns. Might not be his first game the way Tuel was, but that ball just takes sooo damn long to get there that defenders will see that at some point. I think he'll be a great long term backup, though

I agree. Peterman might start the 2nd half of the season if the team isn't doing well. No, this year is it for him in terms of proving he's Buffalo's answer at QB, regardless of circumstances or whatever the team may run into. That's the reality I think most understand.

I just see mostly the same Taylor I've seen the last 2 years but in a new offense with new WRs he's trying to gain chemistry with. His worst play of the night was his miss to Clay over the middle of the field that Clay almost grabbed. The first interception really wasn't his fault at all. On the second one I think he was just taking a chance that Boldin might go up and get it. Probably runs or throws it away in the regular season. The other pass to Boldin where Darby almost picked it off again was a play I think you could see an extremely slow receiver who is just being read so easily by the defender. Production is going to be what matters in the regular season. No matter who is mostly at fault (the OL or WRs or Taylor) it will absolutely be Taylor who loses his job... maybe sooner rather than later.

Dude... were you watching? 3 step drop and plant and the defense has already collapsed. No time to read anything. Our OL sucked. Why's it a draw? Peterman wasn't playing against the Eagles 1st string D at any point.

Jesus this thread exploded overnight. Guess Thurm can't try blaming me again for somehow keeping it alive Good job guys! 100 pages here we come! Ummm... what are you trying to imply other than what's obvious: The Eagles 1st string (Schwartz coached) defense is really good and they were going against an OL with crap at LT and RT. Let's just hope Glenn comes back healthy and someone shows up at RT. Objectivity, at last!!!! Pretty concerned with our OL right now. Let's see what happens in a few weeks.

Yep. Just sad. I really don't care who our starter is, I just want the guy who's going to win us the most games. If Taylor sucks for the first... I dunno 4-8 games (depending), I fully expect him to be benched and evaluating the upcoming QB class will be priority #1 along with bundling our picks. That might be what happens, it might not. I just don't think the preseason is much of an indicator of anything particularly for the QB position with a generally very bland and vanilla playbook.

It's the preseason people... who cares? After the way EJ played in preseason games in 2015 I just don't care much about it or think it's very meaningful. Our OL was clearly the biggest problem yesterday. If they can't protect for a short period of time on these 3 and 5 step drops, we're screwed no matter who's under center. We already know Taylor won't get the whole season if he sucks for the beginning of the year, whether it's 4, 6, or 8 games... who knows?

Noooooooo!!!!!! But I'm sure The_Dude will love it!

Jesus... buncha whiny babies. Are people really using the preseason as the significant measure of a player's overall offseason evaluation? Didn't we learn anything from EJ Manuel's preseason just 2 years ago?

Okay. Thanks Dad

Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves.

Yes. Of course it does. It's what I hope they're building and why I'm still hopeful about the season.

Glad I'm completely unawares when it comes to social media

Stats don't mean jack when the bullets start flying? What the hell does that mean? Are you implying that bullets are only flying at certain times during a game? Because teams don't try to knock a QBs head off at all times during a game? Those stats posted were when "the bullets were flying." Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat. If they were a QB stat then Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers would have been cut already.

Yeah... cause that's what I'm saying. Oy Is that an attempt to validate the "anti Tyrod position"? Or is it just a statement of fact? I agree if it's a statement of fact. As far as the validating anything, Beane hasn't really proven anything yet as far as evaluating talent as a GM.

Except that Rogers still has 54 losses in his career. If you add in his 10 comebacks that means that he came back in the fourth quarter in about 16% of the games he could have. In 84% of the games where his team was trailing in the fourth, Rogers did not bring his team back for a victory. Is Taylor's 88% really that much worse than Rodgers's 84%? Another drive-by for Crusher!

Taylor has only 30 NFL starts. 6.7% of those were 4th Quarter comebacks. Aaron Rodgers has come back in the 4th quarter in 7.4% of his career starts. Yeah, but your posts are much more long-winded than mine Plus, my yard stick is longer

WTF??? There's that Alzheimer's kicking in, Thurm. Direct quote from you, not me: "In Young's fifth year he only played three games" What's up with you lately? You're all over the map.

Is this sarcasm?

Boy... if true that's a really interesting wrinkle here... makes me feel a little better about the trade. Maybe McDermott and Beane are just looking for a particular type of team-first player.

First and foremost, we aren't likely going to be bad enough to be in the top 10 in next year's draft unless Beane does more stuff and demonstrates he's actively tanking. If we aren't drafting in the top 10, even with all of our other draft picks, it's not exactly easy to trade up for the best or even the 2nd best prospect in a supposedly strong draft class at QB. I suspect we might get the 3rd or 4th best QB and he'll be a guy who isn't ready to start immediately. Or who shouldn't start immediately. That's the biggest reason. Also, Tyrod Taylor is clearly the best QB on the Bills roster in 2017, so why would you think it'd be so obvious he'd be gone when we have nothing better?

No. If the Browns are so bad they're in the top 3 again it'd be head-scratchingly baffling if the Browns didn't take a QB in the top 3 of this supposedly great class. Of course, it's the Browns

Aren't they basically just trying to go kidnap someone from the army of the undead to provide proof for Cersei? Yeah... I think now that the actual written books are done and the scriptwriters are basically going in their own direction they're struggling a bit with storytelling. Things feel rushed.

I think we have the capital. But teams that don't have a franchise QB and really need one and have the opportunity to draft one are unlikely to give up their opportunity to draft one just for a bunch of draft picks. Remember, the Rams still had hopes for Bradford back in 2012 when the 'Skins came calling. The Titans had Mariota last year when the Rams came calling. The Colts I'm sure refused some absolutely insane offers from other teams in 2012 despite the fact that they already had one of the best QBs in history recovering and coming back to play the next year. The Browns are the Browns... so if they're up there, apparently they don't care much about drafting a QB since they gave their 2nd pick to the Eagles last year. But if we choose to go get one of these Elite guys and aren't one of the worst teams in the league in 2017, it's not going to be easy.