transplantbillsfan

Who's saying he's a lock?

I said entering his prime. You understand I was referring to age, right? Late 20s early 30s are usually considered prime QB years. You seem to be taking the phrase "entering his prime" all wrong. But saying he's not better than when he was drafted is one of the dumbest comment I've ever read about Taylor. With that said, Taylor is playing a lot better than whatever your perception seems to be. I legitimately think Tyrod Taylor's ability and style of play is ideal for a defensive minded coach like McDermott and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the coach is happy with Taylor and is already salivating over all those draft choices we have that we might not be forced to use on a franchise QB because he already feels he's got one. It's a long season and I suspect there will be games that we air it out more, but it's foolish to believe that every head coach wants his QB throwing the football 30+ times per game for 300 yards all the time.

Alex Smith: 33 years old and probably in the late stages of his prime Tyrod Taylor: 28 years old and entering his prime

Yards yards yards yards yards blah blah blah blah blah blah Geez people.

Ummmmm..... nope. That's just an atrocious approach to the draft. I don't think you understood my post. In my scenario, Tyrod Taylor is our Franchise QB.

Here's what I don't like about this conversation for years: with Taylor or any other QB: people feel the need to speak so definitively all the time. "Taylor isn't a franchise QB." At least throw the word that belongs at the end of that sentence... YET. He's still playing and still has every opportunity to prove it. Plus, that statement presumes that Taylor isn't good enough in McDermott's eyes. Why are you so sure about that? Seems like a guy like Taylor who is already implanted on your roster as a veteran QB probably just now entering his prime who protects the ball so well but can make incredible throws, has the respect of all his teammates, has an NFL arm, has Elite athleticism, has incredible character and seems to be improving on aspects of his game folks have criticized him over his first two years as a starter (going through progressions, throwing over the middle, etc.) might actually be a guy that a coach who wants to both win now as well as build for the future views as a Franchise QB right now? I have no idea how this year or the offseason or the draft will play out, but guess what, neither does anyone else. So this constant need to qualify almost every statement about Taylor's play with "well, we're still going to draft a QB in the first" is just a little ridiculous. Who knows what happens? Taylor might very well be our Franchise QB if he keeps playing so efficiently and the team keeps winning. I'm not running out the door to buy a Taylor jersey or anything, but it's very possible that a year or two from now his jersey becomes the first QB jersey since Kelly Bills fans can walk around wearing without wondering whether he'll be on a different team or out of the league the following year.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb Footballoutsiders currently has Taylor at #16 in DYAR and #9 in DVOA. Passer Rating has him tied at #7. Total Qbr has him at #9. You factor all that in with what you see in terms of his play on the field and I think putting Taylor in the top 10 to start the 2017 season is perfectly reasonable.

How about a winning season and a franchise QB... as in Tyrod Taylor continuing to play well this year? A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

WTF?!?! Top upset pick?!?!

I'm just going to repeat this stat. Tyrod Taylor has the 3rd highest Passer Rating in the NFL when trailing the opponent. And before you say that hasn't been very often, I think if you look it up the Bills have trailed 35-40% of the time so far this year and 49 of Taylor's 99 passing attempts have come in that time.

No, this is not correct. Taylor was always under contract with the Bills and the Bills alone. All anyone can do is speculate about what other teams might have offered him on the open market.

link?

Benoit has always had pretty strong negative feelings about Taylor. When his initial reads don’t show open, he quickly assumes a runner’s mentality I feel like there's been pretty obvious progress here this year. Frankly, some of what he writes really makes me question his overall expertise. Buffalo’s secondary has two potential studs: rookie corner Tre’Davious White (his short-area agility is tremendous) and former Packers safety Micah Hyde (he was outstanding in the win at Atlanta). But the rest of the all-new backfield consists of career-long fringe starters and backups: corners E.J. Gaines, Leonard Johnson and Shareece Wright, and safety Jordan Poyer. They’re playing well, but coaches will tell you that any plan that’s contingent on guys continuing to overachieve is unwise. Is it just me, or does it seem like he hasn't really watched the secondary, much? If he had, you would think Poyer would be the stud over Hyde based on all of the first 4 games. At the very least, he should have included him. Same for Gaines, but to a lesser extent.​

Well that's interesting. Rosenthal has changed the way he does these. A lot more thorough.

I'm sure they're going to look for an NFL QB in the draft, but if the guy isn't there in the 1st and Taylor plays as he has been playing, we'll be rolling with Taylor very likely, who is also a true NFL QB Ignore me. Geez dude take your own incessant advice.

Okay... so it was all sarcasm. All good Sarcasm really doesn't translate well on an Internet message board. Just something to consider in the future if you get this upset at people "pulling you into an argument" over comments you don't actually mean seriously.

Dude... what the hell? You literally just said you were being sarcastic about the Ws and Ls. So, you weren't being sarcastic? You put Ws and Ls on the QB that much? If you do (and who knows because the way you post is all over the place a lot of the time), that's just ridiculous. Wow. So Taylor can play like utter crap for the next 9 games, but if our D rises up and plays as good or better than it's played so far and we win 7 or 8 games in our next 9, suddenly Taylor is good enough for you? Shady, you're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is a bad one.

Well, okay. That's only happened once for this team on the final drive in Carolina. In that drive, Taylor was excellent in an otherwise awful game. Barring a nice completion to Holmes called back on a questionable OPI and/or Zay Jones losing the rookie hiccups, we probably would have won and would be 4-0 right now. We didn't. But at a time we had to abandon the run, Taylor had us moving down the field pretty efficiently.

Oh, so you were just trolling. Or joking. Or whatever. Got it

Bang, it should be a silly question, but I'm trying to figure out what the heck Shady is thinking considering he said the notable stat of Taylor's value is "3 wins 1 loss." It's head scratching to me the way people still attribute QB play almost solely to Ws and Ls.

You're constantly all over the place and it's really to follow your thought process regarding Taylor. Simple question, then. If the Bills go, let's say 11-5, make the playoffs, and win a game, is that then absolute validation that Taylor is the guy? Yes? No?

C'mon man... really?

This, I think, is the point.

I don't think McDermott cares much about offensive production or getting first downs when the team is ahead. You can just see how uber conservative he gets at that point, like when Taylor did that little QB sweep on 3rd down just before Hauschka's final 55 yard FG in Atlanta. I was actually screaming at the TV in the bar in terms of how conservative that play call was. But it worked. He looks unbelievable so far this year. He really does. Oh, it has to be 2 scores? I really wonder whether or when or how often this team is even going to be down by 2 scores this season with this defense, but if the team goes down by 10 (2 scores) and he plays well and brings the team back, is it then going to turn into 2 TDs rather than 2 scores? I actually thought to look that up mainly because I kept thinking Taylor has been constantly making plays this year when he needs to.

We've trailed for almost half the time the team has played thus far. I'd have to look up the total amount of minutes, but it's not an insignificant amount of time. He's thrown the ball 49 times when the team is trailing. That's just a hair under 50% of his total passes.