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The same link I provided in my previous post: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&rank=098&type=Passing&year=2017

Taylor has 107 "passing plays" on 3rd down. Keep in mind, those account for sacks, as well. Tom Brady has 110 passing plays. So no, Taylor's overall attempts on 3rd down really aren't that low, especially given the fact that he sat out roughly the equivalent of an entire game at this point.

I bet we league the league in negative rushes by a RB on 1st and 2nd down. I can't find that stat, anywhere, but there's the biggest reason we have the longest distance to go on 3rd down of probably any other team in the entire NFL.

She wouldn't be wearing that at New Era this Sunday

Just getting easier and easier... like takin candy from a baby

24 points off turnovers... HAS NEVER HAPPENED for Taylor. It was almost 27 if Novak doesn't miss a 46 yard FG. 7 of those points were a gift and 17 of those points the Chargers offense... and again, coulda been 20. Peterman's 4 interceptions gave the Chargers starting field positions in Buffalo territory twice, in our red zone once, and the other one was just on the Chargers' side of midfield. Would Taylor have won that game? I don't know. But saying it's absurd that he might have won is an absurd statement in itself. It was a game we lost almost solely because of Peterman. Because Peterman did something a lot that Taylor rarely does. I was fine with Taylor's benching because his play in the Saints game was terrible and I figured McDermott, having watched Peterman in practice and Training Camp, felt he was ready to take the reins. Instead, we went from terrible to an absolute dumpster fire. And you talk as though most people share your beliefs on that whole situation. I think that's awfully presumptuous of you.

I don't know... I wonder how much the players are in McDermott's ear right now. I'm really going to be intrigued to see who starts Sunday. I wish this little chess game was being played against a better team than the Colts, though. No it's absolutely not even remotely close to "just as credible." That's totally ridiculous. Taylor was the only player in a Buffalo Bills uniform who played well against the Jets, other than Zay Jones. Peterman would've been murdered! Especially in primetime on national TV under those lights. Can I say that 100%? No, obviously not. But it's ridiculously far-fetched and laughable for you to say it's an equal statement that Peterman might have gotten a win in a game where the only good player was our QB and we lost that game BECAUSE of our atrocious Defense vs. Taylor might have gotten a win where FAR AND AWAY the reason we lost that game against the Chargers was because our QB threw 5 picks in one half! It's not just as credible. Not even close.

I think the fans are going to cheer for either one and are going to boo very quickly if/when either one starts to look inadequate. Sure, there are going to be some who boo or don't cheer for one of those QBs and does for the other. You're one of those, apparently. But as a whole I think Bills fans just want to see their team win and go into the beginning of any game with some semblance of optimism. Overall I'd guess fans just know this is likely the farewell tour for Taylor if he starts and that we'll be seeing our future Franchise QB (hopefully) drafted in the 1st round next year. The Jets game was the start and fall (not the end, yet, because we're still "in it") of the WC hopes, yet it was one of Taylor's better games in a Bills uniform. And he followed that up with his worst. Taylor just is what he is, which is not nearly as bad as some make him out to be. And we'll be drafting his replacement and (hopefully) an upgrade over him in the 1st round of the upcoming draft, anyway. What a cat and mouse game. Whoever starts at QB is going to be very telling, I think. If Taylor starts... wow... that's really an indictment of Peterman and I think it also shows that McDermott might be overcompensating for the mistake he made benching Taylor in the Chargers game. I actually kinda think the right move for McDermott here is to start Peterman, largely because this is an open opportunity for him to do that and move on from Taylor, as he (or Dennison... ?) seems to want to. If Peterman starts... this was such a weird little game he played all week against an inferior team. I don't care who's under center, I expect us to win this game. I used to be superstitious about saying that, but now that I have mixed feelings about winning vs. losing, I think we'll win. And if Peterman starts and plays well, I'll be surprised if McDermott sticks to his word and starts Taylor again when he's fully healthy. Why did McDermott even backtrack and say that? Just strange.

Unfortunately, we'll never know. But the reality is that Peterman was the reason we lost that game and it was the worst half the NFL has seen from a QB since ther AFL/NFL merger. Like I said, if we end up one game out, that decision is certainly a pretty big smudge on what was otherwise mostly a positive year for McDermott.

Throwing a game to the Chargers by putting a dumpster fire under center certainly didn't help anything. This team manages to go 9-7 and misses the playoffs by one game because of the tiebreaker, that Chargers game is really going to come back into the fold of this discussion. We lost that game, very simply, because Peterman threw a ton of interceptions. I can already see us missing by one game. That'll be just wonderful

No one's saying he's the long term answer. I'm certainly not. Doesn't mean you're required to stretch the truth in order to only speak negatively about him.

Currently 16/36. http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&rank=098&type=Passing&year=2017 Also, 55% of Taylor's 3rd down plays that have resulted in a ball leaving his hand or a sack have been for 8+ yards. I can't find an exact stat for this, but if we don't average the longest distance to convert on 3rd down, I'd be surprised. But even then, it'll be 2nd or 3rd most. And I have a legitimate question to you: do you actually care about plays that are 3rd down passing plays or do you only care about plays where the ball leaves Taylor's hand or he's sacked, which is the number the NFL tracks? I ask because scrambles are passing plays, too. And Taylor often converts 3rd downs by scrambling. Hell, he was a perfect 3/3 on scramble conversions on 3rd down against the Patriots. Taylor has actually improved as a 3rd down QB, believe it or not. I'm looking forward to all the reasoning about to be thrown at those facts just to try to make Taylor look like the worst QB in the NFL

Good. Gronk's a piece of ****

3-1? We're going 4-0, baby!

How about a single half? Doesn't a messy field typically benefit the offensive player?

Play nice now, Shady

What a friggin joke! Our OL sucks!

Nope. I'm not. It's clear as day we'll be drafting a QB in the 1st round next year. Taylor still could be here in 2018. That's still possible, but we're going to be drafting his replacement in the 2018 draft. Hope it's someone great.

I've moved on. I still think Taylor gives us the best chance to win and still want to make the playoffs, but also realize it's a bit far-fetched. I'm still rooting for it, though. And if we start Peterman this weekend, God I hope he pulls a 180 from the Chargers game. I'd love to see him and Reilly start connecting like they did in preseason. I am not and have never been a fan of individual players. That's a Millennial thing that I have very little respect for. I'm loyal only to the Buffalo Bills. If they ever left Buffalo, I probably wouldn't care about the NFL much at all. In the end, though, I'm a bit numb going into the last quarter of the season. I just want a goddamn QB already and want to know who this regime targets. I know nothing about these college QBs but hope 1 or 2 are worth trading up into the top 5 for because that's what I'm pretty sure we're doing.

It's a contradiction to say that no one believes that Taylor's a Franchise QB despite acknowledging people may have believed it in the past? Why would it be any kind of contradiction whatsoever? Saying "no one believes the world is flat, no one's believed that since the mid 1400s" isn't a contradiction, is it? My point was simply that anyone who ever had the notion that Taylor was our franchise QB or even could be our franchise QB no longer exist, so this thread seems to be pointing fingers at people who have moved on. Seems like a pretty pointless exercise.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. There's a serious loss of translation when typing on a message board and I thought the comment from you was meant to be sarcastic and condescending. It wasn't, so my bad. I'm the guilty party here.

Knew you'd like that comment

First of all, what are those boxes at the top? Whether it's a browser thing or an inside joke I'm not getting, they just look like boxes. Second of all, you don't call posts of mine or really anyone who's ever said anything positive about Taylor stupid or several other negative things? Seriously? That's what you're going with? So now on top of proving you have no integrity because you can't adhere to a bet YOU make yourself and then LOSE, you also prove to be a liar? Third of all, why are you so obsessed with Taylor that you feel you have to talk about him so much?

Boo hoo? Shady, you're being kind of a douche. I apparently bring out the worst in you. Maybe you should put me on your ignore list... that one you claim you have Jm on despite the fact that you'll constantly banter back and forth with him.