transplantbillsfan

Yes, 61 TDs and 20 turnovers in a Bills uniform.

Lead is greater than leader of the team? What does that even mean? And if you knew what I would say, why did you ask?

We'll see. If he does, I don't think he wins it. And if he does win it, I don't think he keeps it very long when he faces real NFL regular season defenses and not preseason defenses or his own team's TC defense. I don't know what you mean by "lead a team," but yeah Taylor could absolutely be a starting QB for a playoff team. He can't carry a team like Brady, Rodgers or Brees. Give him a top 10-15 defense, an above average OL and a decent running game all in the same season and yes, you get him in the playoffs with a potential playoff win or two. Why does this seem so far fetched to some of you? Is anyone seeing what's happened to Dak Prescott without a running game?

I saw 1, but also saw 1 near pick-6 a defender dropped and a botched snap that was Peterman's fault if we're really keeping track of who's at fault for what. Why doesn't this same backwards logic apply for Taylor who would have just 1 interception to 12 passing TDs if Charles Clay didn't let catchable balls bounce through his hands.

62 total TDs. 20 total turnovers. No 15 interceptions and 5 lost turnovers. 20 total turnovers.

No, what's dumb, dumb dumb dumb is saying Taylor looked bad when you are literally pointing to one out of 40+ snaps he took as a sign he was bad, too. And what's dumb, dumb dumb dumb is deciding he was bad when you didn't even watch most of the snaps he took. And for the record, Taylor was utterly crappy against the Saints. I said when McDermott benched him I completely understood the benching, largely because I thought Peterman would be able to run the offense. Boy was I wrong! So were the coaches But really I think this was the second best outcome for the bills with what transpired last week in terms of the QB position. The best obviously would've been Peterman playing lights out and looking like a great QB and his first start and leading us to victory. That didn't happen. He was spectacularly awful. And this solidifies the fact that he won't be our long-term answer at QB and forces McBeane's hands even more in the draft to go up and get a QB high.

I don't think we will actually. It's funny, what was the biggest positive on Peterman coming out of the draft and the reason everyone thought he was such a steal in the fifth round (bottom of the fifth round, mind you)? He was supposed to be the most NFL ready guy, right? The reality is that we saw a guy who absolutely should not have been on the field on Sunday. I would bet that our starter next year in week one is either our newly drafted first round rookie or Taylor as the rookie sits waiting in the wings. Please don't let it be Jeff Tuel 2.0

No, he didn't. Not under any laws or rules set forth by the NFL he didn't.

Dude, do you get the phrase "historically bad?" Go look up what Joe Flacco did against the Jags 3rd game of THIS YEAR!!! It was worse than Taylor. And I'm not trying to say Taylor's game wasn't utterly crappy because it was. But it wasn't historically crappy. You have to look to before the AFL/NFL merger to find a QB who's thrown 5 interceptions in a half. And there was a 6th he would have thrown if the defender didn't drop it looking at the open space in front of him to the end zone. Historically bad.

Except saying "even Taylor looked bad in that game" is dumb because he didn't. Argue it was in garbage time. Argue it was against backups. Fair arguments to make. But you said and are persisting that "Taylor looked bad, too," when anyone who watched the 2nd half knows how false that statement is considering you're basing it on one play. And before you try saying something about basing Peterman's performance on 5 plays... no let's also include the botched snap that was his fault and the near pick-6 another defender had on the right sideline on a ball he never should've thrown... plus the fact that he had ZERO to do with the TD drive he took snaps for. Taylor was good... sure it was in "garbage time" with some backups in and out of the game for sure... but he was good. Peterman was so historically bad I would honestly rather never have to see him take another meaningful snap for Buffalo again

So you didn't watch most of the half Taylor played? 1 turnover to 5 turnovers that almost turned to 7? Yeah that alone is much better... without even factoring in the positive plays. Happy Thanksgiving!!!

This is exactly right and exactly why McDermott has to start Taylor this week and almost certainly until we're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. It's just disturbing if he actually believed Peterman would somehow be an upgrade for a team in the thick of a playoff hunt when he's seen this obvious downgrade in practice. Oy

No response to the hypocrisy Ry... I mean Fitzy? What a troll... or an idiot... or both "Look at meeeee!!! I'm Maury L Fitzy and I'm so smart I can't hold a username for more than a few months!!!" Are we to assume you're betting under 130 and we lose? So that means if he goes over 130 OR we win you shut up or play nice?

Not a reason to throw significantly worse in the game just because it can get better

Yeah I caught the dig. I wonder if the OP is saying he's taking his own bet...? If he is, what the hell is he going to do if Taylor throws for over and we win? I don't think I've seen that poster say a single positive thing about this team under any of the three usernames I've seen from him And you might not want to poke bears, but paper tigers are okay

Gut feeling says you're right. I also thought he was poised for a big game against the Chargers. Instead he had a big half. Not as confident about a win as Taylor playing well, though.

Wasn't it obvious?

Welp... at least now McDermott knows that for sure, too

I know this is largely tongue in cheek, but there's lots and lots of truth in here

Clear and massive upgrade. Maybe Sunday is the worst week ever see out of Peterman. I think we all agree that the Saints game is the worst will see out of Taylor. Peterman and 1/2 of the Chargers game: 14 passes 6 completions 0 sacks 5 interceptions (1 pick-6) 66 passing yards... even more interception return yards. 4 rushing yards 4 first downs Average starting field position given to opponent while Peterman played: Buffalo's 49 yard line with 49 yard average distance to score. That's obviously without the pick-6. Tyrod Taylor in 3 quarters of the Saints game: 18 passes 9 completions 2 sacks minus 6 yards 1 interception (returned 27 yards) 56 passing yards. 27 rushing yards 4 1st downs Average starting field position given to opponent while Taylor played: Saints own 36 yard line with 64 yards average distance to score. That's with the interception return off Clay's drop, otherwise it was the 28 yard line with an average distance of 72 yards. Both these guys were baaaAAAAaaaad, but Peterman was historically bad. Hell the team practically gave up around him. The D gave up over 300 yards and 37 points in the first half alone! At least it was just a 2 TD game (as opposed to a 30 point game) against the Chargers. I hope Peterman gets better, but I'll be happy if I never see him start another game again.

Ummm... the difference is that Tyrod Taylor is a clear and massive upgrade over the guy who he would remain on the bench for if he were to stay there and every single player knows that. You really can't say the same for any of those positions you just brought up.

Oh man I was totally thinking the same poster. Ironically, that would make this his 3rd username in the brief 7 or 8 months he's been here. Troll away... troll away

No, Taylor had like 170 passing yards and a TD before anything you could classify as "garbage time." Taylor was basically the same effective QB throughout the entire game. And the Jets D really never let up. Go rewatch the game. I did it a long time ago... like right after the Jets game. I want to say I came up with 168 passing yards and 1 passing TD and then the O'Leary fumble, after which I think you could classify the rest of Taylor's stats as "garbage stats" if you want.

Ummm... the Bills with Taylor at QB are 7-11 on the road. Not great, but certainly not bad enough to expect that a "road game" that really is more of a neutral site game is somehow surely or even highly likely a loss.

It's funny you mention this, actually. Because a couple of those interceptions that Peterman had while he was getting hit and throwing were on poor protection wouldn't have been interceptions with Taylor because either he takes a sack or he has the arm strength Peterman doesn't to get it up the field more. Peterman doesn't have the NFL arm to play like the "Nate Favre" Micah Hyde calls him. ooooOOOOOOooooohhhh so you are a previously banned poster. What was your previous username over at BBMB or here?