transplantbillsfan

God I hope we draft Mayfield or Jackson

Mayfield is my #1, but both Darnold and Jackson are right behind him. Staying put at 12 and drafting Jackson while filling a ton of other holes makes a lot of sense

For me, there are 3 QBs I'm getting very excited about: Darnold, Mayfield and Jackson. We should (theoretically) be able to stay put at 12 and land Jackson. We might get Mayfield there, but probably not. We definitely need to trade up to get Darnold. Those 3 guys I think set this team up well at the QB position.

Trade up. If you view the picks we currently have as a result of Beane prioritizing building a team over finding a Franchise QB and getting him, you just haven't been paying attention. When it comes to the draft, get Franchise QB 1st. Build team 2nd.

Please please please please please please please please let this be true!!!

Definitely a well-thought rationale here. I agree with you about Mayfield not being the guy they want... but I really really really hope we're wrong. If we trade up for Josh Allen while Mayfield slides I'm gonna stick a fork in my hand.

First of all, I agree that Beane is going to try like hell to trade up to #2, hence the thread... trying to logically ease the minds of some people weirdly freaking out about the prospect of doing something Beane and McDermott have pretty clearly been preparing to do for nearly a year. Second of all, can you explain what Beane did or said in this presser to lead you to these conclusions? Just curious. Why do you think the Bills would like Allen more than any other QB in this draft? Oh boy I hope for the sake of this fan base we don't end up with a Center and LB in this draft as you're essentially pushing here with your unwillingness to trade up.

No, I don't have zero clue. I have what would probably be considered the average clue of the layman. I don't have the clue of a gambling addict, though. The thread was, I think, pretty straightforward about why we can feel comfortable about Beane giving away those 4 picks to move up for a QB and why those 4 picks he'd quickly give away if they were all it took to get up to #2. You want to get hung up on the term itself because it doesn't exactly match your definition, complain about it with the guys at your meeting later today. Terrible examples. Really terrible analogies, actually. Neither the Colts or the Lions traded up to draft Luck or Stafford at #1. They were just terrible enough teams to earn the #1 pick. And then their GMs were terrible and didn't draft the supporting casts well.

I think we acquired that other 1st last year intending to use it this year as draft capital to trade up and get a QB McBeane really love this year because McDermott didn't really love anyone last year.

Having fun? I don't gamble, so I don't care that you could easily nitpick the analogy as a whole and argue that it's not actual "house money..." We made the playoffs last year with essentially the same roster we're going to have next season already. Some might argue we're better at several positions. We'll find our other positions if we need them: MLB, C, WR, etc... Time to seriously and sternly address the most important position in sports. Come up with an analogy that connects with a GM and HC who had one 1st round pick last year, traded down to acquire a 2nd 1st rounder this year while also drafting a stud in the 1st round, trading a WR they inherited who would have been gone after one year anyway for a 2nd rounder, trading an LT who literally they never even saw in meaningful regularseason action for a move up 9 spots in the 1st round, and trading a QB they also inherited and clearly wanted to upgrade on for the 1st pick in the 3rd round. They acquired a second 1st rounder this year by trading down and still getting a guy who based on his production would have been worthy of the 10th pick in the draft. Then they also added a 2nd rounder, the 1st pick in the 3rd round and moved up 9 spots in the 1st round by trading guys who almost certainly wouldn't even be on this team right now otherwise and may have been let go for nothing or much less. 2 of those guys McBeane never even benefited from and the other was at the position they were clearly trying to upgrade on. 1 1st, one 2nd, one 3rd we have as a result of one shrewd maneuver and getting something in return for 3 players Beane and McDermott inherited and had no long term plans with... 2 of whom they never reaped any on-field benefits from anyway and 1 who a year ago at the draft it was clearly set in motion to draft his replacement... yeah, I'm calling it House Money

Really not understanding the spirit of that term here, are you?

Are you the new neighborhood troll? Here was your question... here's what Jeremiah says directly about his rankings: I always believe it's helpful during the evaluation process to rank the current group of prospects among the players at the position from the previous two drafts. I recently looked up the grades I gave to the quarterbacks in the '16 and '17 draft classes and I slotted them in with this year's crop of talent. Here's the order I have them in based on their draft grade. So according to Jeremiah, who once again was an actual NFL scout, Darnold is a better NFL prospect than Wentz OR Goff was 2 years ago coming out of college and Rosen is a better prospect than Goff was. Now, while there are never any guarantees, I think you'll find yourself on an island all alone if you believe trading up for a QB as good as or better than Wentz OR Goff is a bad idea.

Why 7? The Colts, Broncos and Browns are all in play, too, I'd think.

Oy

Their draft strategy has been one of the most transparent draft strategies in years! I'm sorry... call it a rush to judgement... but I think what I said is accurate.

Sooooo... just completely dismissing Jeremiah now because his grades don't line up with your own??? Agree or disagree, I bet he's watched more actual game tape of these guys than you... ya know... like he's been an NFL scout for a living... but sure bro, tell everyone where these guys should really fall after you tell us how much NFL scouting experience you have

So I'm out of touch with reality, huh? Daniel Jeremiah recently compared his top 10 QB prospects from 2016-2018. His results were as follows: 10) Paxton Lynch 9) Deshone Kiser 8) Mitchell Trubisky 7) Deshaun Watson 6) Josh Allen 5) Baker Mayfield 4) Jared Goff 3) Josh Rosen 2) Carson Wentz 1) Sam Darnold I still argue Darnold, Mayfield and Rosen are worth trading up for... doesn't really look like I'm the one out of touch here

Why this week and not next or the one after that?

It's not nuts at all, actually. You just seem a little out of touch with reality. In order for the Eagles to move up from #8 to #2, it cost them their 1st, 3rd & 4th in 2016 PLUS their 1st in 2017 PLUS their 1st in 2018. And it doesn't appear as though they mortgaged their future either considering... ya know... Super Bowl

Do you seriously think that Beane busted his hump to acquire all those picks in order to pick a Center and an LB in the 1st round of this draft? If Beane and McDermott don't get one of the 2 or 3 QBs they feel strongly about, this draft will be a failure.

God I hope so... this would bode well for the acquisition of Mayfield

Dorsey could almost justify the move if he truly likes a QB other than Darnold like Allen or Mayfield a lot considering he's still got the 4th pick and he'd pick up 2 more 1st rounders this year alone

Ya know I really think this just needs to happen soon. Sweetening the pot for the Giants offering both of our 1sts and both of our 2nds should do it. Or if Darnold is truly the guy we covet, add next year's 1st and this year's 3rd to that pot for the Browns at #1. Though ideally we wait until draft day and watch Mayfield slide out of the top 5 and just throw both of our 1sts to the Colts in a trade up to 6... but damn... this waiting is gonna kill me!!!

God... yes it was... period. We would have had to go 0-16 to beat the Browns out for the #1 choice

Darnold, Mayfield, or Jackson. These are the 3 QBs I believe we should target. The fact that Mayock likes Allen so much is a bit disconcerting.