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The fact that he worked in Dabol's offense will really help him.

Wow... is Allen the favorite to win the starting job week 1? Dude's got the football acumen... it all seems to be a question of how much he's cleaned up his mechanics. Man, if Allen plays right away and plays well, Jordan Palmer is going to have a busy and lucrative career working as a guru for a position he could never play himself. Impressive.

How I feel, too. I still would have preferred Mayfield or Darnold because I think they're, more sure things, but I'm no longer upset we didn't pick the outspoken spoiled brat, even though I was initially. Rosen really turned me off in his interviews after being drafted. Allen's story looks special and looks like a truly unique case. There hasn't been a Project QB like him drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who's gone onto be a true Franchise QB since Favre. But it really looks like the kid was just a late bloomer and his story tells me he's got the natural chip on his shoulder.

This is awesome! Thanks for posting!!! There was a moment in there you could see Cousins was a bit surprised at Allen's football acumen. My main hope is that the kid can clean up his mechanics and footwork so he can be consistently accurate. That's obviously the biggest worry.

Weird... don't know why the hell someone merged another thread with this one, left my post as the 1st post, gave me moderation privileges but changed the thread title to the one that merged into it.

Bang, I loathed this pick the moment it happened. Then, when it did happen, knowing I would have to either delude myself with hope or legitimately get some, I watched and listened to everything I could with Allen... I watched highlights before the draft, including some "all the throws" stuff from the Boise St game and that, combined with his mediocre numbers combined with history made me despise the idea of drafting him. and then... Well... after imbibing as much as possible on Allen over the last 24 hours, I actually think he's a bit of a unique case and stands a decent, though not great chance to be something special.

Hope not, but we'll see. I feel a lot better about this pick now than I did 24 hours ago, honestly.

Wow... are you SaviorEdwards? I don't think that's what it is. Look into the sources, in particular, of what was said. I'll say this... I'm a teacher. When Allen posted those tweets I was in my 7th or 8th year of teaching. IPhones came out in 2007. Social Media exploded. He was a kid. Kids love pop culture and think virtually anything in pop culture is fair game. I legitimately think the last decade of growing up as a high school student has been the most dangerous decade for teenagers in memory; a time when your brain hasn't fully developed (which doesn't happen til you're 23) and yet, for some reason, parents allow their kids virtual unrestricted access to social media via their smartphones.

Honestly just watching the interview on the Bills app with Allen and Edmunds standing next to each other, I'm a little shocked how much Edmunds actually dwarfs the biggest QB in this draft class. I'm excited!!!

Okay, I'm sorry but I didn't have time to read this til now... I've been absorbing as many interviews and highlights and breakdowns as I could in the last 24 hours. So this is a fantastic breakdown and explanation. Love it. One question regarding the bold: I read he wasn't recruited in HS at all at least as a Junior in HS because he was "small." I heard and found 180 lbs. Where did you hear/find he was only 6 ft at that time? Is this kid really just an extremely late bloomer?

Cardinals were probably the team that released those tweets the night before and expected to be the ones to get Allen after the freefall. They're stuck with the jackass, instead

Interesting comments here by Allen's college coach, who also recruited and coached Carson Wentz

Well, I listened to him and watched him right after the draft. Total jackass. I was really upset the last name Goodell called was "Allen" rather than "Rosen" immediately after at happened. After watching Rosen's interviews, I'm not upset, anymore. That guy wouldn't fit in WNY.

Love? I don't love him. I hated the pick the moment it happened. Hell, I threw my phone. But I've spent the last 24 hours taking in interview after interview and highlight after highlight and breakdown after breakdown. As I've absorbed his story, I think he has a decent chance to be the exception to the rule of the Project QB, which is most often as a bust. I hated Goodell said "Allen," not "Rosen" the moment it happened. Now I'm fine with it. Darnold and Mayfield were out of the picture already. Have you looked into Allen at all? Better yet, since you evidently hate the whole draft, what do you dislike so much about Edmunds and Phillips?

No. You're dumb.

Holy crap!!! Edmunds is gigantic!!! I just watched a video of him getting interviewed next to Josh Allen on the Bills app and Allen looks small next to Edmunds!!!

I'm assuming someone already posted this, but he's #42 on Mayock's top 100 and #43 on Jeremiah's top 50... and just look at Jeremiah's description of him: Phillips is a powerful defensive tackle with excellent production and a non-stop motor. He dominates against the run. He jolts blockers with a quick, explosive punch before locating the football and collecting tackles. He understands blocking schemes, routinely defeating double-teams with his quickness and awareness. His lateral range is exceptional and he never seems to tire out despite rarely coming off the field. As a pass rusher, he generates a steady push with his bull rush and flashes a quick slap/swim move. He needs to improve as a finisher. He has some ankle tightness and struggles to flatten out once he gets upfield. Phillips offers immediate value on run downs and I believe he's going to improve as a pass rusher at the next level. He reminds me ofKyle Williams coming out of LSU.

I listened to him and watched him right after the draft. Total jackass. I was really upset the last name Goodell called was "Allen" rather than "Rosen" immediately after at happened. After watching Rosen's interviews, I'm not upset, anymore.

I don't think there was anyone legitimately projecting Manuel as a 1st round prospect. We took Manuel purely for need in one of the weakest QB draft classes in recent history. Almost every NFL evaluator views Allen as a 1st round prospect. And make no mistake about it, Beane has been accumulating these draft picks primarily in order to get his Franchise QB. It's obvious he had a price because he said in his PC yesterday the cost to get up higher than 7 was too high. So trading away future draft picks combined with picks after the 1st round this year seemed off the table. In the end, we traded 2 2nd round picks away in order to get Allen. We only really have 2 gaping holes on this team: MLB and Franchise QB. We got both and will still manage to have 7 picks in this draft by the end of Saturday, assuming we keep the rest of our picks where they are. And ZERO future picks. We can argue all day about other positions, but WR should be better than last year already, not that that's even very difficult. On OL Groy and Bodine probably aren't huge steps back from Wood and Incognito. Dawkin's got another year experience and Mills was better last year than the year before. Glenn never even saw the field last year. RB we've upgraded. TE's the same DE's the same DL we've upgraded CBs are about the same Safety is the same OLB's are about the same Franchise QB is the most important position, and I'm glad Beane traded up for one, even if he's really the guy I didn't want. Those guys get paid to scout these players and know a helluva lot more about them than I do, and the more I look into Allen's kind of unique history and listen to him speak and watch the way he throws and listen to guys like Trent Dilfer and Jordan Palmer talk about him, I think maybe Allen can break the trend of the 1st round true project QB not evolving into Franchise QB. I'm not utterly confident he will, but he's our QB now and I'm liking the kid and his work ethic and his demeaner and his natural ability, so I very much have hope he will. And I'll also say this, when we traded up and I threw my phone because it was Allen and not Rosen, I'm now kinda happy we didn't draft Rosen. I watched and listened to all his interviews after he fell to 10 and the Cardinals drafted him. Holy crap... what a complete jackass!!! That might be the homer in me talking and maybe if the Bills drafted him and he said the same thing, I'd say "I love his competitive fire!!!" but I don't really think so.... he just sounds like a complete dick, and I don't actually think he would have fit in WNY very well.

Really? Manuel always looked almost like a robot throwing the football. Allen looks natural throwing it, he just needs to tighten things up. But Manuel was definitely one of the reasons I didn't want Allen... not that he's the same player, just the same genre: a Project.

Well... the Bills homer glasses are coming on already... so probably for longer than I should Hell, I'm already kinda hoping he beats out McCarron this summer and is the starting QB from week 1, even though intellectually I think he needs to sit for a year. I am fanatic... can't help it

I get it. I don't disagree, for the most part. But to me, intention is everything in respect to even those tweets, IMO. Based on the background of what he said and when he said it, I view it as a forgivable stupid mistake kids are making all too often nowadays because of the trap that Social Media is. Steven A talks about Allen calling him up at 2 AM last night to explain himself:

Apparently his recall is fantastic and he was excellent at the whiteboard with NFL teams damnit!!! damnit!!! damnit!!!

Seriously... and we've all established I have terrible taste in QBs. I liked Edwards and thought he could have been a legit Franchise QB for waaaaaayyyyy too long... I liked Fitz and thought he could have been our long term answer at QB for waaaaaayyyy too long... I liked Manuel and thought he had a chance to be a legit Franchise QB for waaaaaayyyyy too long... I liked Taylor and thought he could have been a legit Franchise QB for waaaaaayyyyy too long... Well, let me ease all of your minds right now because I seriously loathed this pick the moment Goodell said "Allen" rather than "Rosen." I threw my phone... seriously. Luckily, I have a flip phone and those things are TANKS!!! But I've been harping on Allen all offseason as to why he'd be a bust and why we shouldn't draft him. His tweets that surfaced in the last 24 hours made me dislike him even more. I saw the Buffalo trade up to #7 and soooOOOOOooooo expected it to be Rosen. It wasn't. I was massively wrong. And here was my reaction the moment it happened Some of you know I generally loathe memes/GIFs... had to make an exception here. (and in that same spirit, when I saw the Browns draft Mayfield at #1, I really kinda thought Darnold would fall to #4, so when the Jets drafted him...) Anyway, I have a history of being massively wrong about my overall like of QBs in a Buffalo Bills uniform. I will grow to like Allen because I'm a Bills fan and am purely a fan of my team, secondarily the players on my team. So everyone, take solace. I'm super sick about us drafting Allen today... he's going to be AWESOME for us although... I gotta say that all I've been doing since seeing we drafted him was looking at whatever I could find on YouTube... there's the obvious stuff about the tweets, which were offensive, but when seeing the entire background of what was said, the source of what was said, and when it happened, it seems forgivable... almost something that's a little ridiculous. And then I ran into some just background stuff... this one caught my attention It's worth a watch. The kid himself is driven and is going to have a chip on his shoulder for the rest of his life, most likely. Talk about a late bloomer... guess the main reasons he wasn't recruited was that he played somewhere no one from college really recruited and he was considered "small" up at least til his Junior year in HS. So he's been working his @$$ off ever since. Other clips out there are making me at least start to come around, too... OH CRAP!!!! I jinxed him already!!!!

Seriously... and we've all established I have terrible taste in QBs. I liked Edwards and thought he could have been a legit Franchise QB for waaaaaayyyyy too long... I liked Fitz and thought he could have been our long term answer at QB for waaaaaayyyy too long... I liked Manuel and thought he had a chance to be a legit Franchise QB for waaaaaayyyyy too long... I liked Taylor and thought he could have been a legit Franchise QB for waaaaaayyyyy too long... Well, let me ease all of your minds right now because I seriously loathed this pick the moment Goodell said "Allen" rather than "Rosen." I threw my phone... seriously. Luckily, I have a flip phone and those things are TANKS!!! But I've been harping on Allen all offseason as to why he'd be a bust and why we shouldn't draft him. His tweets that surfaced in the last 24 hours made me dislike him even more. I saw the Buffalo trade up to #7 and soooOOOOOooooo expected it to be Rosen. It wasn't. I was massively wrong. I have a history of being massively wrong about my overall like of QBs in a Buffalo Bills uniform. I will grow to like Allen because I'm a Bills fan and am purely a fan of my team, secondarily the players on my team. So everyone, take solace. I'm super sick about us drafting Allen today... he's going to be AWESOME for us