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My bad. Neglected to look up East Carolina. It is, indeed, a D1 school.

College pedigree? Zay Jones played at a crappy D1 college in East Carolina. Duke Williams played in the SEC at Auburn. And being a 2nd round draft pick going in his 3rd season guarantees absolutely nothings.

Zay was the top WR on the team last season is the reason he earned that 3rd season is disingenuous. Our WR corps sucked last year. Probably the worst WR corps in the NFL up until the 2nd half of the season when Foster really elevated things.

What the hell is up with the Zay lovin poster? Zay has been a disappointment thus far for what he was advertised as. And to remind everyone, he was advertised as sure-handed. He was one of the most sure handed college WRs, if not the most, in his draft class. In the NFL, he's been the opposite. I think he makes the team. But I don't think he deserves to make the team over Duke... or McKenzie, for that matter.

Rogers and Lewis didn't have the preseason Duke is having.

https://theathletic.com/1161883/2019/08/26/projecting-the-bills-53-man-roster-heading-into-the-final-preseason-game/ Projecting the Bills’ 53-man roster heading into the final preseason game Wide Receiver (7) John Brown, Cole Beasley, Zay Jones, Andre Roberts, Robert Foster, Isaiah McKenzie, Duke Williams Through three preseason games, Duke Williams has done enough to make the initial Bills roster. It all began for him right near the end of training camp at St. John Fisher College, where it seemed like something clicked for the receiver. Williams brought in a contested catch in the end zone during practice, and from that point forward, he’s been on a steady incline. He provides something that no other receiver on the roster does with his size, and now he’s starting to figure out how to win on his routes. His effectiveness as a run blocker is a significant factor in the decision, as well. Williams should hang on through the initial 53-man roster, but if the team makes a waiver claim over the weekend, he could end up on the shortlist to be released.

Size and skillset... Great... Duke looks mean and hungry and like he knows this might be his last shot in the NFL... that's why the Bills need to keep him, along with the obvious size and skillset stuff.

It's weak to point to the fact that in game 3 of preseason--the "dress rehearsal"--that Duke had more snaps than any other WR, including a bunch of snaps in the 1st half with the 1s??? Sounds like you went to "many" TC practices, but clearly the coaches are seeing something you didn't in your expert TC observations.

Follow the thread of that conversation please. I never said the Bills aren't playing their starters.

And how much did you focus on what Duke Williams was doing and how much the coaches were interacting with him?

Largest revision downward in 10 years and the revision downward was primarily in the retail, leisure, and hospitality sectors. All closely tied with consumer spending. I don't know how you could possibly spin this as anything other than something negative and I'm a little perplexed that I was the first to mention this considering the news was out a few days ago.

Oh, so you attended all or most preseason practices?

How do you know he was invisible? Do you believe the coaching staff gave him the most WR reps in the 3rd preseason game based solely on 3 catches in the 2nd game? Seems pretty far-fetched.

Guess that shoots down the notion that he's in roster trouble. Hope it's not significant.

But he still gets his gold jacket... right?

They aren’ t playing starters largely to make sure they don’t get hurt. That doesn’t mean they aren’t using preseason games as an assessment tool for the depth players.

Gotta bump this. Interesting take on Foster. I think it's the correct one.

Was it McKenzie with the fumble problems last year or Ray Ray? I think I permanently blocked out the game one of them basically lost us on that fumbled punt. Completely agree. I prefer keeping either Roberts or McKenzie, not both.

Me too. But Beane loves him for some weird reason, so he stays.

Still really think they're playing the long game with Foster. He clearly has some maturity issues and it looks like OBD is in "shape up or ship out" mode but I really don't think they want to cut him. We find out a week from today. If they cut him I probably won't be shocked, but It'll be surprised. Robert Foster did last year.

I believe Foster is on the team. Roberts and McKenzie are interchangeable to me. Keep one.

...and I just don't think he clears wavers. 2 TDs and 6 catches in the last couple games. Both TDs of him high pointing the ball. And anyone notice he was getting some pretty significant #1 reps tonight? I think after Brown and Beasley there's a lot of wiggle room. Zay simply shouldn't be guaranteed the roster spot that I think he is. Neither should Roberts for that matter... McKenzie has played himself onto the roster and can return. I still think Foster is close to a lock and the coaching staff is playing long game mind games with him. So almost guaranteed we keep 6 WRs on the active roster. Add a 7th to keep D'haquille???

Ray Ray isn't worth an active roster spot. I think both McKenzie and Duke have earned active roster spots. I don't know what we do. 7 WRs????