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It's extremely clear that one subset of the population seems to be particularly up in arms about ESPN. I'm curious if there's a corollary here to opinions on bathrooms, water fountains, or voting rights...
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7 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
Again, same argument from Transie, and again, it's dumb. Yeah, Brady's thrown both deep and to the deep middle a lot less frequently than he's thrown short. Same with everyone else.
Folks, pretending that deep throws only affect the defense on plays when the offense actually throws deep is missing the point. They have to defend the deep middle against Brady. Knowing Brady's thrown it there there 15 times out of his 43 deep throws you know you absolutely have to defend it. That affects your safeties on every play and your CBs on every pass play. Whereas with Tyrod throwing there one time out of 29 deep throws and 236 total throws you know you can move your safeties towards the horseshoe area where he actually does throw, short and towards the sides as you get towards the intermediate and deep areas.
When 28 of 29 deep throws are to the outside thirds, the defense says, "Thank you for the tendency, Tyrod."
It also matters that deep middle of the field plays are usually massive plays. We're talking about huge 3rd down pickups: does anyone feel safe when Brady/Rodgers/Wilson/Roethlisberger have 3rd & 16? When taylor has 3rd and 7 I'm already hitting the bathroom to beat the crowds before the punt. Those deep middle plays are also game winning drives, of which Taylor has 2 in his entire career. The aforementioned QBs seem to make these plays weekly, even if the frequency is less. When the chips are down, they have nerves of steel. Taylor just doesn't have what it takes to be anything more than an electric runner that drops down to a game manager mean.
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23 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
So you're saying Taylor's still our starter in 2018?
Interesting... was that a slip? You certainly seem like a poster who thinks he's about to be replaced
I absolutely think he SHOULD be replaced, but this is the Bills we're talking about - the same team that decided a CB was a better pick this year than the best looking QB to come out in a decade. I think it's highly likely the Bills try to have their cake and eat it too next year. I'm fully prepared for a (trade up in the second or 3rd round to grab the 5th best prospect) type of scenario that makes Taylor the guy by default.
Taylor is a virtual lock to be here in 2018, barring a complete implosion. Medicority wins the day - look no further than Miami, Cinci, Minnesota, Chicago, Jacksonville, etc for other prime examples. I don't hate Taylor - I just wish he was a player he can never be. It's not his fault that he'll never be Russel Wilson. Anything less simply isn't good enough. -
4 minutes ago, grb said:
OK, lottery tickets : Your odds of winning the lottery on a single ticket is one in 175 million. Say I'm sitting up on a cloud overhead and decide "That jmc12290 has led a blameless life. I think I'll increase his chance of winning to one in 87.5 million" How much better off do you think you'd be? How much gratitude should I expect? Attached is the passing charts of all quarterbacks. In Week 9 three quarterbacks completed a single pass to the deep middle. You follow quarterbacks like Cousins or Stafford or Prescott and they may have one deep middle completion in five games. Remember, this subject came from Thurman insisting it was a critical flaw in Taylor's game. Given it has almost zero important to anyone's (and everyone's) game, how critical a flaw can it be?
Where are you getting that it has "almost zero importance"? It may be massively critical, but your charts don't designate importance.
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15 minutes ago, grb said:
Really? Then perhaps you'd be interested in this : After the Jets game Taylor was sixth in the NFL in the percent of his throws going for plus-20 yards. The people in front of him were Goff, Watson, Brady, Cousins and Brees (though I forget what order). Immediately behind Taylor was Wilson. Then came everyone else.
Do the 20 yard out of bounds attempts count? Hes good for a few of those every game. Taylor hardly ever puts his WRs in a position to succeed. Jared Goff seems to have no problem dropping 51 points on the board with Watkins and Woods, but somehow they weren't good enough to play here. Jordan Matthews had no problem catching TDs and putting up WR 1/2 numbers With Vick/Foles/Wentz, but here he's an overrated bum getting outperformed by Marquise Goodwin. I wonder what everyone is going to say when Benjamin puts up the two worst seasons of his career...
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Passer rating is the +/- of the NFL. It means completely nothing and is massively weighted towards not throwing picks, which taylor refuses to do. I would expect him to be Top 10 passer rating in every category, because he plays to the design of the formula.
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19 minutes ago, Dr. Fong said:
Arthur Moats parents used to drive around in an SUV with a Cowboys sticker on it when he played for us. I always thought that was a weird thing. To me once my son made an NFL roster that's my new favorite team.
I mean, If YOU made an NFL team, but it was the Browns, would they be your favorite team then? The company I work for isn't my favorite.
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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Not a Bills fan, eh?
Haven't missed a game since '90, and it was a joke, not a ****, don't take it so hard.
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What about cord cutting? What about the type of clientele likely to be interested in letting nielsen spy on them for $150? I watch 8 or more games a week but they cant measure it. TV is down across the board. I think it might have less to do with the NFL and more to do with other ways to watch.
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Matthews is having the worst season of his career by miles and miles under Taylor. He's slated to end up with 480 yards on 42 catches and 2 TDs. If I were him, there would be zero chance I'd re-sign here. Those are TJ Graham numbers on a team with walk on WRs.
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9 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Actually, that's impossible. I hate that saying.
What about when Peyton and Eli played each other?
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7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Tyrod Taylor is OUR QUARTERBACK
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#NotMyQuarterback
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here's the test for me: with 1:30 to go and no timeouts needing a touchdown at your own 20 yard line how much are you willing to bet that TT drives the field and scores? With Brady Rodgers, Wilson I'm betting every dime I have and will ever make for the rest of my life. With 10 or so other QBs I'm laying down a hefty chunk of change. With Taylor, I'm betting everything I've got and taking out loans to bet on the other team.
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QB x2, LB, DE, CB, G, TE, WR
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1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Hilarious. I'm assuming now you're drastically reducing this all to passing TDs instead of total TDs.
Taylor averaged 23.5 TDs in his first 2 years as a starter.
Funny. Most people round up when it's 0.5, yet you couldn't even say 19 passing TDs. You had to round down, which no one ever does.
Talk about an absolutely pathetic agenda:doh:
There's no agenda. Taylor is just bad. I was a big supporter last year, but he's proven that he doesnt have what it takes to be a full-time starter in this league. I hope we trade him to the Browns in the offseason.
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28 minutes ago, Steptide said:
He might demand it, but he hasent put up the production to get it
of course he has, just not in Buffalo, where WRs go to die.
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depends entirely on the draft. I'd like to see an upgrade, but he's a fine WR5/6
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1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...hard to deny this young man's drive, initiative, work ethic, commitment to team despite his shortcomings unless you purely want him to fail for whatever reason.......his failure hurts the TEAM unless that has no bearing on your personal dislike........only to toot your "I told you he sucks horn", repugnant as it is......is he a "franchise guy"?....probably not.......he won't be the guy who takes command and leads the club to numerous come from behind 4th quarter victories......can he be an effective game manager that keeps things close?....probably.....that is my perspective of what you are working with.....pedestrian with nothing flashy or huge upside to dramatically turn the tide when the game is on the line late............
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I pegged us for 10-6 before we traded watkins and darby. After Boldin retired I figured 5-6 wins. After week 8 I figured 10-6 because I assumed a jets win and now I think 10-6 or 9-7 is still the right call. Beat Indy, Chargers, Miami and try to steal one against the Pats, Saints, Chiefs. If we can get our D back, KC makes the most sense to me
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1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Well reading through this thread it's clear most won't budge.
Some previously adamant anTy Taylor guys are demonstrating actual flexibility and objectivity like JaCrispy, which is impressive.
Some clearly didn't even watch the game.
Some are hanging all over Romo's jock as a commentator, which is pretty funny.
This entire discussion is old and stale for many reasons, but some people have a vision of what they need their QB to be and Taylor will never be it, despite the obvious steps forward he's taken in his game.
Oh, what's a Franchise QB?
Are people seriously just equating Franchise QB with an Elite QB?
I remember GoBills808 once defined Franchise QB as a QB who starts for the same team for 5 straight years. That means Dalton and Flacco would be Franchise QBs.
Who here would do a straight up trade of Taylor for Flacco/Dalton?
Flacco is terrible. Dalton is not great. i put him at about even footing with Taylor, but he's such a drastically different player. I think he'd be more successful here because Cinci is toxic, and they've never been able to run the ball. I don't think he'd lead us to a Super Bowl either, but he'd a be a 2-3 win upgrade. But no, I wouldn't want him if he became available.
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@SDS for what it's worth, the page seems to be waiting until all call responses are received. It seems that it takes about 8 seconds to load everything in order, but most of that loading can be happening after the core content is ready
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12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Okay... what about Taylor's turnovers? Like his first interception of the season?
One of Taylor's problems is that he doesn't throw enough picks. He treats the football like money under a mattress.
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2 minutes ago, Foxx said:
seems to be loading fine here. could be on your end?
no, definitely not. 1gb connection that's monitored.
1 minute ago, SDS said:It is definitely slower at times. It will be something I will be addressing throughout the week. Bear with me.
No problem. if you need help let me know. I could crawl through the chrome console and see where maybe some hiccups are.
Tyrod is a franchise QB
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by BullBuchanan
It's like you're deliberately obtuse. Do you actually watch the games or just look up midseason stats? This defense has carried Taylor all season long(besides NYJ), and he continues to lose football games by being unable to turn crucial drives into touchdowns. Taylor boosting his stats in meaningless sections of games doesn't impress me or put digits in the win column. His trash play during clutch time is what matters most, and he's currently this teams weakest link. With this year's version of Josh McCown this team is undefeated.
Here are some real stats that aren't just vanity metrics: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb