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This league has become extremely offense oriented. Last year, of the nine top touchdown leaders in the league onely one (Pittsburgh) did not make the playoffs. Everyone that appeared in the conference championship was in the top 7, and everyone besides New England was in the top 3. That should tell us all something. The minimum bar to get Top 9 is 50 Touchdowns. The Bills were tied for 3rd worst in the league with 29. That means they have to make up an extra 21 Touchdowns to be in the ballpark of wanting to seriously compete.
If you say Brown gets 6, Beasley gets 5, McCoy gets 5, Gore gets 3, Foster gets 3, Kroft gets 3 - which are all completely in line with recent production - where are you picking up another 25 TDS?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2018&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go -
Just now, Pbomb said:
Bell brown and obj would cost over 50 mil a year on top of trading our entire draft to get them
In the Scenario I outlined we would have had 95 million to spend, so ok - I'm fine with that. You still have $40 million to put you right in line with teams that actually have star players. Go get whoever else you need with the $25 million and save $15 for draft picks.
As for the draft, it would have cost us a first round pick for OBJ. Are you expecting to get a better player than OBJ at #9? If you are, I'd llike to know why he's not going #1. AB was traded for a 3rd and a 5th. You wouldn't trade a Backup DT (Phillips) and a backup safety (Neal) for one of the two best WR's in football?Just now, BuffAlone said:We didn't cut those contracts/players to rebuild our team. We cut them to rebuild the organization. We are doing well to that point. No sense in getting all that cap space just to turn around and spend it on similar contracts. In two or three years, we will need that cash to re-sign our own drafted players. We are going to be in good shape for that
Who are you re-signing in 2-3 years? White? Who else? Poyer and Hyde should be gone, Hughes will be gone, McCoy will be gone. What Kind of deal has Dawkins earned? Milano?
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3 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:
You mean the 27th highest paid WR in the league. I actually expect a pretty solid season. 750 and 6-8TDs in the first year. He may exceed that depending on the Offense and the Oline.
I expect 600 yards and 4-5 TDs from Brown (3rd best season of his career) and 900 yards and 4-5 touchdowns from McCoy (Second best season in 5 years). Any more than that is unfair to the players.
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20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
Other than the Pittsburg RB and WR.................who did you want Beane to get?
Well those two would have been high on my list. The WR FA market was extremely weak and I knew that months ago, but once the top 2 receivers were available on the market for pennies on the dollar, I expected our GM to make a more concerted push for one of them. Instead they both play for rivals.
I also expected an upgrade at RB. I wanted them to cut McCoy and go after some combination of Coleman, Ingram, Hyde, or even Ajayi. Bringing in a player like Gore is the exact opposite of what I thought they should do, but is also something so Billsy it had to be expected. As for TE, we got the worse Tyler, and paid him like he was the right one. I don't hate the signing in general but the money they paid to get him is borderline ridiculous.
In general, I don't hate any one of the players the brought in as much as I hate the story they're telling with the culmination of them and the money the spent to get these guys. Every one of them is a filler niche player. We lost guys like Watkins, Woods, Darby, Dareus, Gilmore, etc. so that we could have $80 million dollars in the bank and build a brand new team.
We had the kind of money to go full madden mode if we wanted to. We literally could have got Beckham, Brown, Bell, Morse, and still had roughly the same amount of money left over to go sign depth players. Cutting dead weight like McCoy and Murphy would have paid for Bell, John Brown + Cole Beasley nets you AB's contract. You could have used the draft to fill out line depth, get more LBs and TE's.
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2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:
Yeah, like no attention was given to the offense in free agency and there aren't draft picks after #9? ?
Bare minimum attention was paid to offense. We got vet journeymen, no players with untapped potential or the ability to carry the team on their back. If you want to win you need those players and we have 0 of them.4 hours ago, Doc said:Huh? Did you miss all the FA additions on offense?
As for the first pick, I have faith in the coaching staff to find the best defensive player, be it Oliver or someone else.
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1 hour ago, Gugny said:
Using a Gary Vee gif tells me all I need to know about this conversation.
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Touch goes a long way when you talk about accuracy. Tyree Jackson was putting them on the money at the combine, but he was whipping fastballs on 5 yard routes and he got chewed out for making his WRs drop balls. This is something Allen did consistently his rookie year. To put him in the same class as Mayfield is ridiculous. If the Browns fire Hue before the season they win the division on his shoulders.
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Apparently I'm in the radical minority of folks who don't believe that John Brown and Cole Beasley represent much of an upgrade for this offense. I think to plan on antyhing more than 1000 yards and 8 TDs from the two of them combined is to be unrealistically optimistic. With Shady at the end of his career, and a journeyman tight end we don't have any game breaking talent in my opinion. If we want to actually beat good teams and not just lose with more dignity we need guys that can break the game wide open. The type of players who are a threat to score anytime a ball is in their vicinity, the type of players who are open when they're double covered, the type of player that comes down with a 3rd and 20 jump ball while getting drilled by Earl Thomas. These aren't they.
I''m going Metcalf Rd 1, Best RB or TE available in Rd 2, and David Sills in Rd 3. Draft all the defense you want after that. They aren't winning you any games if you can't score at will. -
Can he score touchdowns or are we just gonna keep playing small ball hoping to win 3-0?
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2 hours ago, Mister Defense said:
Good move, as he had 9.5 sacks just two years ago.
Did not play great last year in New England, but you never know.
Depending on contract could be a good low risk, possible high reward signing.
That 9.5 sack year was his only good performance of his otherwise disappointing career, and if memory serves he got 5-6 sacks in one game. -
On 3/12/2019 at 6:26 PM, Success said:
If someone can tell me the last time splashy, overpaid signings helped a team win the Lombardi, I’m all ears.
This might be one of the most practical, smart FA periods I’ve sent this team have...
Peyton Manning, Marshawn Lynch, and Alshon Jeffrey are just 3 notable acquisitions that teams would not have won a super Bowl without in the last 5 years alone Darrelle Revis, and as much as it pains me to say it, Stephon Gilmore are honorable mentions.. Other teams like the Rams have risen to dominance through liberal use of FA.
This very common take is bad, for a lot of reasons. Winning a championship takes a bit of luck, but getting yourself in position to win a championship year in and year out is what skillful use of FA can and does accomplish. -
We need to draft DK Metcalf and we need him to be the next Megatron if we want to get where we want to go.
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16 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:
OP I love the entusiasm but wow.
Mario Williams was a superstar and played great while with Buffalo. Trent Murphy was a PED suspended guy coming off knee surgery who was severely overpaid and sucks.
Rex was a disaster hired by Pegula not Whaley.
McDermott so far is all talk just more sophisticated than Rex. It is MBA and Toyota Management lingo nothing more. He gets blown out routinely. He played for a tie in OT and started Peterman on the road with the playoffs still in reach.
The OL is still a mess but to be fair is an unknown more than anything now. Morse looks good but he graded as an above average center who was just made the highest paid in the league. The rest of the OL signings are not stars and it is hard to know if they are any better than Mills/Miller.
Beane sounded great defending Buffalo and it felt sincere. But he just said again draft is not for needs after he gave up multiple players and picks to draft the QB and MLB the team needed.
Lastly, none of what the OP or my post includes matters. It is about one player, Josh Allen. Don’t tell me it is a team. Jacksonville has SuperBowl talent destroyed by one terrible QB. Beane’s legacy just as every GM since Polian will be determined by the QB. I wanted Allen over all the other QBs so I’m all in with Beane on this one.
I just dont give him a pass on the rest of his moves.
This is what I didn't want to burn the energy to type. I think some people are impressed by McD and Beane, because they've never heard this schtik before. In my line of work I see niave and inexperienced execs extoll it continuously. They're basically saying, trust us - we know what we're doing and no we don't have key performance metrics to back it up. Spoiler: They don't know what they're doing.
I've seen this movie a dozen times.
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5 minutes ago, The Senator said:
Tom Brady is 41. George Blanda retired at 48.
If Gore and Beasley can play at a high level and help the team win, I sure don’t care how old they are.
Age is just a number.
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Rich Gannon came out of nowhere to put together an MVP season at age 35, so maybe we should re-sign Losman. i hear he looked good slinging the ball at Clemson.
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2 hours ago, Augie said:
That’s what FA is all about, the chance to overpay. Your hope to get to the point where you can do it all (or most of it) through the draft, but we’re not there this year. Most of our deals seem to be structured in a way that we’re not saddled with a bad contract for years. THAT is the key as far as I’m concerned. Hopefully he turns into a pleasant surprise.
Yea, but if you want to overpay at least do it for good players. You could have had Antonio Brown for the same price as John Brown and Cole Beasely. If you think we won that deal, you probably think a Target knife set is better than one proper knife.
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Jordy Nelson: 2 year deal.
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Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about?
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Did he send the GIF when it was reported we were trading for AB?
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8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Please.
May be off the table for you, but for nobody else is trading back gone. Might not happen, but you can bet they still think it's an option.
Trading up? Yeah, not in the first round. Last year they had two massive holes they needed to fill, particularly at QB but also at the Kuechle spot in McD's defence. This year no massive holes. Not unless someone like Bosa falls to sixth or seventh or something wild like that.
No massive holes? We have ZERO skill position players of any significance. I dont think 3rd tier players like Brown, Beasley and Gore are going to do a thing to address the offensive incompetence that's been on display for this team. The AFC continues to get stronger and stronger, and the Bills just stand pat. As of now, we're the 3rd most talented team in our own division, and unless they make significant improvements between now and August, I think we're on pace to be in a similar or worse draft position next April. -
1 minute ago, Scorp83 said:
It's like they got a PS4 for Christmas... & we got an Xbox One ???
What exactly is our Xbox one?
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5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
Cole Bease has been regarded as one of the top slot guys in the league for a while now
John Brown is most known as a speed guy.....
A lot of these signings so far are low risk high reward who are coming off injuries have have shown production in the past.......this I agree with HOWEVER I worry much less about the name of the player then how they would fit our offensive and defensive schemes
And they fit
They're moderate risk moderate reward like all Bills moves. These guys are all on the backside of their career, and now the Bills are asking them to carry the load.
They overpay them enough so that they become the guy.
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2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
Based on the contract numbers, none of these guys appear to have been brought in to be "marquee players"
Trying to hit it on the cheap. Like Spencer Johnson et al.
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1 minute ago, ngbills said:
Yep - feels about right. Or like many of our signings over the past 15-20 years. Andra Davis, Dwan Edwards, Geoff Hangartner, Kawika Mitchell and so forth.
That's exactly it. Seems like Buffalo is always trying to take another team's niche rotational player and pay him to come here and try to be a marquee player.
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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:
^this guy
Did I forget the #championship?
Ed Oliver to visit Buffalo
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yea, and they did, and we didn't.