BullBuchanan
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Mayfield will be the cream of the crop. I expect Cleveland to become a powerhouse in very short order if they can get their act together upstairs. After Roethlisberger retires the division is going to open right up. I think Harbaugh gets fired from BAL in the next two years if they don't make a push. The New GM won't have any reason to tie his horse to Flacco or Jackson. Cinci is a mess and will have a new coach.
Rudolph will be very good. If he can improve his arm strength he'll be elite.
Rosen is the second coming of Jay Cutler. I expect him to hang around a long time, barring injury but I don't see him becoming a superstar. That Arizona team is going to look worlds different in the next 2 years.
I expect Darnold to follow a similar path to Rosen. I think he's likely a franchise guy, but the dangerous type like a Dalton. Not good enough to carry the team, not bad enough to ever get rid of.
I expect Allen to be out of the league in 3 years or less. They're going to ask a rocket armed thrower to greatly improve his accuracy, which outside of Favre has never happened in the NFL. Could he put it together and become a Hall of Famer? Sure, why not. I'm laying odds against it and taking all bets. Hopefully he'll become pals with JaMarcus Russel and they can hang out at the park throwing 65 yard bombs to one another on one knee. Everyone needs a friend.
I'm not sure Lamar Jackson ever gets a meaningful shot at starting reps in his career. Expecting him to follow a Paxton Lynch route. If he does get a crack, I doubt he'll put together a winning season in his career. He should try to become the first professional college QB.
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3 hours ago, The Red King said:
Enough with the absolutes. That's why OP catches so much flak, and he's not the only one. All these statements about how we definately overpayed, or how someone will be a bust are grating. If you can see into the future, buy winning lottery tickets, buy the team, and make any personel decisions you want. If you cannot see into the future, stop talking as if you can. Stop posting opinion as foregone conclusion. Start saying things like "In a few years I believe Allen will be revealed as a bust." or "A few years from now I think it will be clear the 2018 draft was a bust."
Isn't that implied? You already know it's an opinion, so why do you need wasted words to clarify it?
7 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:He also went 9 of 13 for 158 yards, with 2 TDs and 0 Ints in the Senior Bowl. Certainly not the be all, end all, but he was playing with (and against) a higher level of talent.
Reads like a Trent Edwards stat line.
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As much as it sickens me to say it, Allen was their guy all along. It should be clear given they were in talks with the Giants/Browns/Broncos and eventually Tampa and they didn't once flinch or change approach. If the Bills had the first overall pick, Allen would have been the guy. I don't know how or why, but it should be painfully clear the way everything played out.
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4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Not really. Chances are, this guy has a chance. Even if it's 1% he has a chance. Peterman has no chance.. 0%. There are some guys that cannot play in regular season NFL games because of their arm. To me, Peterman is one of those guys. I said it before the Chargers game and it was evident in that game. It was even evident in the final game.
The kid started one game. A game in which the only receiver anyone has ever heard of was injured on the very first play and two scrubs let balls bounce off their hands and turn into picks. My confidence would be shot too. Before getting hurt, he was holding his own in that blizzard against Indy too. Peterman's a smart and athletic kid. I'd bet he'll have a chance to be in this league for a long time before I'd bet that he's one and done.
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23 hours ago, wppete said:
Ryan Carter, CB, Clemson. Signed.
How the hell did this kid not get drafted. I know its youtube highlights, but these were more impressive than the kid we drafted.
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I'm really hoping that AJ McCarron pulls a Jimmy G.
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39 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:
And this might make them feel worse.
I would feel better if he stepped up in the massive pocket he had and threw that with both feet on the ground.
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3 hours ago, Logic said:
First, I was only commenting on the notion that Rudolph was somehow a 1st round talent. He clearly wasn't.
Second, I love how people always trot out Brady, Wilson, or Prescott, as if that's the norm. The vast, VAST majority of later round quarterbacks fail or, at best, amount to career backups. Always pointing out the .1% of exceptions doesn't make it any more likely that late round guys are going to succeed.It's a little bit more than 1% 11-12 teams (~35%) this year will have opening day starters that were not first round picks, and that's been pretty much the standard for the last 10 years. Among the better QBS you have Wilson, Cousins, Carr, Garappolo, Brady, Brees. It's not exactly the prescribed route, but it's far from a wing and a prayer.
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Admittedly, I don't know the kid, but his highlights make him look like a Kyle William clone. Super Excited to see this kid on the field. Looks like a day 1 starter to me.
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20 minutes ago, Buff76ers said:
That’s weird, I didn’t hear Rudolph’s name last night. Did you? For him being so much better I would have figured he would be a 1st round pick.
You could say the same thing about Carr, Wilson, and Cousins. Hindsight is weird, right?
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5 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:
Not sure how much Gates has left in the tank, one more season maybe.
he has negative 2 seasons left. He's beyond finished.
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Barkley was the perfect fit for the Giants. They have 1-3 years left in their current window where they could be championship contenders. They haven't been able to run the ball at all since Brandon Jacobs fell apart and an elite RB could take a ton of pressure off their passing game. When they lost their top 3 WRs in one game last year, that was the end of their season.
Barkley gives them another way to win football games, and unlike other positions elite RBs can carry a team out of the gate.
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1 minute ago, dakrider said:
so for all those who are so enamored with college completion percentage.... 2 guys who had great college completion % are Kellen Moore and Tim Tebow. I think both guys are available! Kellen Moore was phenomenal in college, over 70%.
John Elway completion % in college was 58% his Jr year and 64% his Sr year, but his overall NFL completion % was 57%
Brett Farve completion % in college was just over 54% his Jr & Sr years, but his overall NFL completion % was 62%
Trying to say either Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield's college completion percentage will determine their NFL success, is completely ridiculous.
College accuracy is not a solo indicator of pro success. College inaccuracy however is a strong and reliable indicator of failure in the Pros.
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6 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
Boller was actually much worst. He was under 50% Marino was much worst but that is nearly 40 years ago.
Marino was better and he raised his accuracy less than 2% which seems to be the best you can reasonably expect.
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4 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
Farve
I'll be damned. Favre it is. I'm actually really happy to have that. Let's hope on the scale of Boller -> Favre he skews the right way.
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10 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
What is this historical data? Qbr, completion %? Are we only talking recent history or NFL history? Its easy to paint stats in an effort to determine future outcomes that meet pre determined outcomes and biases.
I cant find a single example of a strong armed inaccurate college QB prospect that resolved his accuracy issues in the pros and found success. I'm talking 80's+
In fact nearly all successful NFL QBs posted 60%+ in college. Allen is 2 points or worse below every decent QB I've found at 56%.
I'd love to find an example. Help me change my mind. Help me find a player he could morph into. Ben Roethlisberger completed 65% in college so comparisons between him and Allen are about as accurate as Peyton Manning and Favre.
Of the 30+ good/great QBs I researched, none improved their college accuracy by more than a couple points besides Drew Brees and his numbers were already great.
That's my data - what's yours?
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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:
Your analogy makes no sense. We all know what the odds are of Powerball and we all know the ROI on the market, and we know which is a better choice. Why? Because we know the history of each; we actually have seen performance. You have not seen one guy from this draft perform in the NFL yet.
Your lack of understanding of such a simple concept is somewhat alarming.
Historic data, friendo. You're betting on a thing that's never happened in modern NFL history to happen. Good luck.
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4 minutes ago, Doc said:
The draft is about getting talent, period. If you can get value, it's a bonus.
And the better analogy would be buy 1,000 shares of a stock at $1 when you possibly could have gotten it at $.80, and seeing it go to $100/share. Is the $200 difference worth complaining about when you still have $100K?
When all historical data suggests that something will be a bust, it's usually a bad idea to go all in at a premium price.
I've been scouring NFL history and records for a raw cannon armed inaccurate and unpolished QB that fixed it all and went on to great things and I cant find one. Not a single one.
There are a lot of small accurate, smart players that improved arm strength, though.
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He has everything I want except accuracy, sound mechanics, a winning history, the ability the process a defense, wr progression, the ability to carry a team on his back and a better than 2:1 TD/Into ratio against some of the worst schools in the country.
Other than that though.
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12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
No it's not. The point is that you have no way of knowing whether any guy picked last night or tonight or tomorrow ultimately work out or not. That is why you cannot judge things right now. He could very well be an elite talent. So could Rosen. Or Allen could be and Rosen not. Or vice versa. Or they could both not pan out. As for value, if he leads us to the playoffs and becomes our QB for the next 12 years, that is tremendous value. There are way to many folks arounfd mhere that think they are Nostradamus-like when it comes to players.
Your statement that it doesn't matter if he becomes a star in several years or not, that it would not affect your judgment of the pick, simply defies any sense of logic or defies any idea of what drafts are meant to accomplish.
Go ahead and drop your life savings on powerball tickets then. It will be a brilliant investment strategy if it works.
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5 hours ago, Xwnyer said:
Because we are becoming very polarized and will hate every top pick. This GM and coach seem to be making moves that they think will make this team better. I am ok with it since they made good picks last year and played well above the talent level. But the “fans” will find every reason they can to hate the pick things like the owner liked the guy, he made some stupid tweets (yet they love the ones from the idiot in White House) etc etc etc. as I predicted in. A thread I started months ago This would happen
You know Beane wasn't the GM last year right?
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5 hours ago, greeneblitz said:
As usual at draft time it becomes political, if you like a guy you must therefore must destroy every other possible adversary, can't believe that it's a bunch of actual grown men and women that act this way. Now with social media people get so tied up debating they think they're part of the actual process lol, like mad at the GM for not listening to their hour or two of youtube and WGR "draft research"
...and you are????? I think we should go with the whole room of professional scouts that do this for a living.
Are all the people that work in your profession highly skilled and excellent at their profession beyond rebuke? I know the ones that occupy my space aren't.
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6 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
If it turns out to be a great pick 5 years from now, that's irrelevant.
That is what you just wrote. Do you not understand what the draft is all about?
I would have liked Rosen more, but that kind of critique is just silly.
The draft is about capturing value and getting elite talent otherwise inaccessible via free agency. Allen neither represents value or elite talent.
If you spend your entire life savings on powerball tickets it's a terrible investment even if you get lucky. The guy that makes solid investment moves over a lifetime will always come out ahead. That's the point.
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2 hours ago, akcash said:
I just like the fact that it shows that that number can be improved... even though it's not the most important thing.
Not really. Tyrod has the lowest YAC in the league over his career. He robbed peter to pay paul.
What This Draft Taught Bills Fans
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Chris Brown is hard at work tonight.
You could have just said, "I'm a bills fan, so everything this team does is awesome" or "Our coach talks in mysterious words about a "process" or something, and because I don't know what it is I'm super-excited"