BullBuchanan
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2 hours ago, mannc said:
Tony Romo a close second.
3 Superbowl appearances behind, though.
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11 hours ago, Richard Crickets said:
Who is the greatest undrafted qb of all time?
Kurt Warner.
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4 hours ago, aristocrat said:
John brown has that straight ahead speed. That’s all dk has. Dk is like one of those racing semis. They go fast straight ahead but they can turn.
If you want to be over-simplistic about it, that's all Megatron had too. He wasn't agile at all.-
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They should approach DE next season like they approached OL this season. Bring in 6 of em and draft a couple and see who shakes out. I have a strong feeling Murphy won't be a part of that plan, and at his price, probably not lawson either.
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17 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:
This years Da'Rick, This years "My guy"
Not even close to that.38 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:What’s this guys deal? All I see anywhere are people saying good things about him. Not even just Bills fans. He put up good numbers too. Why didn’t he get drafted? What is he slow or something?
32 minutes ago, SCBills said:He’s got guys like Dez Bryant hyping him and was projected as a Mid-Round Pick.
I dont get it either.
Sills has 2 years of WR experience and put up 33 TDs during that span. Scouts are concerned about his frame at the next level, as well as his lack of experience. He doesn't have top end speed, but he is very crafty as a WR and has a knack for getting open in the sense he positions his body at a high end level. He's got a Stevie Johnson/Chris Hogan quality to him, though I'd argue better athleticism and hands than both. I think he makes the 53 man roster and makes a nice redzone impact out of the gate. He doesn't have strength to block or beat press in the NFL right now.
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Here's Nate Geary's write-up on him: Mechanics and decision making are the two big points he makes: https://www.cover1.net/nate-geary-top-five-qbs-5-tyree-jackson-2019-nfl-draft/
I think it would be reasonable to guess that Jackson hasn't had a lot of quality coaching in his life. His physical abilities probably allowed him to play so far above everyone else at his level, that it wasn't required in HS, and given he played in the MAC, it may not have been available to him in college. The decision making part increases the possibility that he struggled on the whiteboard. If he did get the quality coaching, that means he wasn't able to incorporate it, which is another red flag. -
1 minute ago, Mark92 said:
It's directly comparing the two to try and figure out why they had such different draft grades. It's not just combine and pro day numbers that make draft grades. It's seeing the actual games. Once you do that you get your answer
What's in the games that provides the answer? That's what he wants to know. Just drop the attitude and provide the information if you have it.
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Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:
Tony Romo did too.
And Favre, Aikman, Elway, Eli, and Otto Graham. If I didn't let the kids have their fun, they'd have no fun at all.
1 minute ago, Mark92 said:OP is directly comparing the two players as are you Yes is it's not the purpose of the thread but it is a comparison thread.
He's looking for information on a detailed level what separates them as prospects because they're very similar on paper. A lot of people with '17' avatars can't seem to grasp that.-
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
Wasn't there a QB who threw 5 INTs in a single game who you continually propped up as a starter? So I guess your eyeball test is okay.
Was it Drew Brees or Russel Wilson, I don't remember.
Just now, Rampage said:You’re not a scout. Teams put on the tape and obviously saw Josh Allen had the arm strength, footwork and throwing motion to put it together at the next level. He also obviously nailed his interviews, board work and background checks.
If you draft based on the stat sheet you’re gonna end up like the Raiders. Or us before Beane.
God, no one is saying that. Read slower, it'll do wonders.
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2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
I always find it odd that a throwing motion can be such a problem. You would figure to earn a 100 mil that a dude could learn to improve it.
They can, but NFL teams are risk averse and most of the best coaches work in the NFL, so they aren't available for private tutelage. I'm sure that Jordan Palmer is good at what he does, but is he the best?28 minutes ago, Mark92 said:Then this whole thread is pointless. OP is directly comparing Allen to Jackson. Yes I " Cherry Picked" Allen's best game because it's evidence of the difference between the two
This thread is only pointless for people without reading comprehension that took it as "Ermergerd, He's saying Jackson is as good as Allen!" That's not the point of the post at all. The actual point, which is 2 QBs with the same athletic abilities and similar stats go to the NFL. One never wins in college in a weak conference but gets drafted 7th overall and the other wins a ton in a weak conference but goes undrafted. If those things don't make up the difference, what does? It's not arm talent, speed, size, strength, or winning - which are all things people commonly consider when drafting QBs.
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4 hours ago, Rampage said:
Needs weight or he’ll be bullied by guys five inches shorter than him. Ball skills don’t matter if you can’t break free from the corner. He went undrafted because there are guys closer to a successful NFL receiver in body type. Stats are a bonus.
That's probably the easiest thing to fix if a player cares enough. The good at football bit is the hard part to nail down.
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2 hours ago, StHustle said:
My nephew is good friends with him and says this last incident has totally changed him. Getting cut by an NFL team for behavior and realizing football could be over for life will do that to some.
I heard the same thing from him when he was cut by clemson and then got another shot at Ole Miss.. We'll see if he can lay off the powder once he gets some money again.
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7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
Jackson has an odd and elongated delivery while Allen's is clean and quick. That's a small but huge difference. Also, Jackson had more talent around him while Allen was Wyoming's offense.
I guess he was working with Jordan Palmer on that. Palmer said good progress but still work to do, meaning probably quite a bit. You dont change things like that overnight.
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6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Stats are for Mike Schopp.
Watch the games and you will see.
Yea, numbers are for nerds. Facts just get in the way of the tried and true ol' eyeball test.
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1 hour ago, BigDingus said:
Josh Allen was always said to be a "project" QB, with a raw skillset but the physical attributes and athleticism that made him worth drafting on potential alone. Great size & arm strength were constantly noted, as were accuracy issues.
On the other hand, Tyree Jackson is said to be the liked for the same reasons. Great size and athleticism, fantastic arm strength, but also inaccurate. They both also faced similar criticisms for facing inferior competition throughout their collegiate careers.
Josh Allen is 6'5 and 240 lbs.Tyree Jackson is 6'7 and 249 lbs.
Josh Allen's hand size is 10 & 1/8 inches.
Tyree Jackson's hand size is 10 & 1/4 inches.
Josh Allen's arms measured at 33 & 1/4 inches.Tyree Jackson's arms measured at 34 & 1/4 inches.
Josh Allen ran a 4.75 second 40 yard dash.
Tyree Jackson ran a 4.59 second 40 yard dash.
Josh Allen had a 33.5 inch vertical jump.
Tyree Jackson had a 34.5 inch vertical jump.
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So in terms of physical attributes, size & athleticism, they both are extremely similar in every way. Now to break down stats a bit:
Josh Allen's Completion Percentage his final season - 56.3%Tyree Jackson's Completion Percentage his final season - 55.3%
Josh Allen's YPG his final season - 164.7 yards
Tyree Jackson's YPG his final season - 223.6 yards
Josh Allen had 16 TD's, averaging 1.45 TD's per game his final season. (28 TD's in 14 games the the prior season)
Tyree Jackson had 28 TD's, averaging 2.0 TD's per game his final season. (12 TD's in 8 games the prior season)
Josh Allen threw 6 INT's, averaging 0.54 INT's per game his final season (15 INT's, averaging 1.07 per game the prior season)
Tyree Jackson threw 12 INT's, averaging 0.85 INT's per game his final season (3 INT's, averaging 0.38 per game the prior season)
Josh Allen rushed for 204 yards on 92 carries, averaging 2.2 YPA his final season.
Tyree Jackson rushed for 161 yards on 55 carries, averaging 2.9 YPA his final season.
Josh Allen rushed for 5 TDs his final season (12 TD's in 2 seasons).
Tyree Jackson rushed for 7 TD's his final season (16 TD's in 3 seasons).
Josh Allen was 8-3 as a starter his final season, 8-6 the prior year.
Tyree Jackson was 10-4 as a starter his final season, 5-3 the prior year.
Josh Allen's Passer Rating his final season was 127.8, and 144.9 the prior year.
Tyree Jackson's Passer Rating his final season was 136.7, and 148.8 the prior year.
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Again, awfully similar in most every category. One of the only other factors to consider is whether you value playing in the MW Conference or the MAC more. Wyoming finished with a 4th overall W/L record at 8-5 in the MWC in 2017, with Allen not leading in a single statistical category in the conference.
Buffalo finished with a 1st overall W/L record at 10-4 in the MAC in 2018, with Jackson leading in several major statistical categories in the conference (Ex: Most Passing TD's and Most Passing Yards). He also finished the season as the MAC's Offensive Player of the Year.
Anyway... TL;DR - What differences between them were so huge that it lead to a gap in draft position as massive as A) being a top 10 pick in the 1st round and B) being passed over by everyone & signing as an Undrafted Rookie FA? I'm not saying Tyree is as good as Allen, and I'm not saying he's even worthy of being an NFL starter. I just can't see how one is worth the risk based on physical attributes & flashes of great talent, while the other has equally impressive physical attributes and also shows flashes of great talent.
I mean, at least he should be worth a pick in the 4th round based on where Allen was drafted right? At worst, a 5th or 6th rounder... Can you imagine if Josh Allen fell to the 5th or 6th, or simply went undrafted? "Intangibles" can be thrown around to fill in for whatever explanation that doesn't exist for such a weird difference in draft stock, but that should only cover so much.
On the other hand, I don't know if Jackson had any legal troubles or character doubts that I haven't heard about, but from what I know there wasn't anything noteworthy. So how did one guy profit so much his physical skillset while the other was written off for a very similar one?
Despite everyone giving you a hard time, this is a really interesting question. Oftentimes, I think a lot of situations of players getting a shot comes down to right place right time. How a team with a vet near the end of his prime, say Pittsburgh or the Chargers wouldn't bring this kid in and just have a coahc work with him to the side all season is beyond me. If it's allowed, I'd hire a guy on staff specifically to coach this kid to be a pro over the next couple of years just breaking down mechanics, watching tape and running drills. No one ever seems to do that though. In a league that only ever seems to have 15 competent QBs at a time, you'd think they'd invest more in development.-
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1 minute ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:
JA has to fight for his job?
Barkley may.
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Um NSFW
Guy is a hitter though !
Don't watch videos with sound and no headphones, man. Slacking 101
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15 minutes ago, CuddyDark said:
He's not as shifty as Cooper Kupp?
I don't think he's a very similar player. Kupp was a YAC machine. Despite the similar frame, Sills is more of a jump ball specialist with really good body control. He'll be the classic "he's open when he's covered" kind of guy if everything works out.-
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1 minute ago, CuddyDark said:
Sills, Easley, Beasley. All competing for the slot IMO. Hopefully sure hands in the middle of the field with big speed outside. I love it. It's finally a type. We haven't had a type in 25 years.
No problem with that. I think it's a great idea to grab everyone you can at a position of need and see who rises to the top.
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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Say more, please?
He's a UDFA, so I won't hit him too hard, but if those are his highlights, he doesn't really seem to do anything that jumps off the page. Seems to accelerate slowly after catching the ball, doesn't have much wiggle, don't see much burst anywhere, and most of the passes are in his hands, which isn't his fault but doesn't showcase much. He doesn't seem to have the ability to break tackles either, so more of a catch and go down possession guy.
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21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Nick Easley
https://dearoldgold.com/2019/03/01/iowa-football-nick-easley-combine-snub-2019-nfl-draft/Highlights:
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I also think there's a high chance he's a surprise cut this season.
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2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:
I like Sills a lot more than Easley as a prospect and chance to make the team. Looks a lot like David Nelson pre-injury. We need a tall guy like that.
I love the way Sills positions himself for catches. He seems to have a real knack for going up and getting the football.
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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
YESSSSSSS!!! David Sills V
Boom called it pre draft! Just had Beane and McD written all over him
This is so sick. We can be allies for a day.
The impending question mark/void on our team NEXT offseason
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I don't see us even remotely close to ready to win now, but that's me. I think we're closer to year 2 of a 5 year plan. If this team becomes a consistent winner guys like McCoy. Beasley, Brown, Hughes. Hyde etc won't be a part of those plans. I think this year's goal is to be more respectable, and I expect a similar result from the last few seasons. We simply have too much inexperience and too little top-end talent right now to be thinking about anything other than backing into a wild-card. 6-10/9-7 is my expected range. The only thing that really matters this year is figuring out if Josh Allen can be a good NFL QB, because without that the rest doesn't even matter.