BullBuchanan
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11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
What do yall want? Numbers or Lombardis?
Which QB do people remember more, Bart Starr or Dan Fouts?
I'll take the Lombardis which puts Terry and Bart and Troy and Joe and Roger near the top of the list. QBs job is to win.
That's how little kids judge QBs too. Enjoy Jeff Hostetler. I'll take Marino.
11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:Not for me. Didn't show up in the big games to drive the Bills to championships and his regular season numbers don't blow me away. Great QB who doesn't make the best of the best for me.
The only team Young could beat was maybe the worst team to ever play in the super bowl. The chargers had no one.
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3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
He had great numbers for many seasons consecutively with off the charts completion % and has a Ring. Not sure how you arrive here.
What years? I think he had top 5-10 numbers for a good chunk of his career, but I dont remember him ever scaring a team the way a lot of other QBs have. This is of course completely ignoring his team was stacked to the gills.
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5 hours ago, Irv said:
Young needs to be on that list. So does Rodgers. I would take them both over Elway and Kelly.
Elway was probably the best pure QB in history before Brady and Manning showed up. Young might be one of the top 3 most overrated QBs ever. Im not even certain he deserved the Hall compared to what so many other QBs did, but it's easy for QBs to get in.
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Kelly has no business on that list and Bradshaw and Aikman are extremely overrated. Favre way too high, Brees WAY too low.
11 minutes ago, bobobonators said:No player that played primarily in an all-white league should ever be placed in a top anything list.
The competition today is light years ahead of what it was 50-60yrs ago. Only the best of the best get to play today whereas back then certain groups of people simply werent even allowed to play.
Any player that excels in the modern era is worlds better than a player from 60yrs ago; or even 30-40 years ago. Theyre faster, stronger and more specialized today.
Not even going to address the Aaron Rodgers omission. A QB like Russel Wilson is 10x the player than Otto Graham ever was.
Otto Graham would never even make an NFL roster today much less be among the best QB’s in the league; it’s not even debatable.
The Otto Graham era of the NFL is akin to a bunch of your buddies getting wasted on thanksgiving and playing football in the backyard today.
The level of specialization and competition in today’s NFL is unlike anything from
decades ago. History is awesome and everything has its place in history, but lets not delude ourselves into thinking Otto can sniff the jock strap of even the worst QB’s in the league today.
That's just retarded. Otto Graham went to a championship every single year he was in the league, winning 7. You can't judge him by modern standards any more than you can a '69 stingray. He's one of the most elite QBs of all time because he demolished everyone he played against.
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I will absolutely blame Bean if he fails or is worse than Rosen/Rudolph, and McDermott gets the blame if he isn't better than Watson/Mahomes, which I think is a near certainty based on Watson alone. They gave up a tremendous amount of capital to get this kid going back to last year, and he'll have to be better at the highest level of football than he was at any point in his life.
I think it's far more likely this sets our rebuild back 3-5 years. If Beane doesn't immediately course correct when he flops, it should cost him his job.-
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wouldn't have been any more luck than if we caught a lucky break and won week 1. Then the playoffs would be all buttoned up before week 17 even started. It doesn't matter how you get there.
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I think it's McCarron's job to lose, but I also think Peterman is going to light it up in camp and he'll get a look as a week one starter with McCarron coming in week 2.
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1 hour ago, matter2003 said:
Too much training...its like your car brakes...they only have so much use in them before they need to be replaced...
You only get so many cuts/change of directions before the ACL gives out...these guys have been training year round since they were kids in a lot cases playing the same sport all year round.
My money's on it being the opposite - too little training of ligaments and small muscle groups. These guys tend to hit the weight room like crazy, but if your muscles are far stronger than your tendons and ligaments, it's going to be bad when you start to push those things at full speed.
You bet your ass I'd be doing yoga daily if I was a pro ball player.
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was he giving 110% and just taking it one day at a time?
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When I lived in town, i got all the news I needed from Artvoice.
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13 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
Gary McDermott -the original #32.
also loved Mini Max Anderson (#22), Wray Carlton (#30) and Robb Riddick (#40)
I've got a Robb Riddick game jersey - wasn't around to see him play though.
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Fred. I loved watching Thurman play. He was an elite talent, but there was something special about Fred. He didn't have any elite athletic traits, but his vision, and most notably his balance were elite tier. The guy did it all on a team that gave him nothing in return. He and Stevie could have been modern day heroes if we ever had a QB.
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On 5/4/2018 at 11:33 AM, RoyBatty is alive said:
Smart move by a smart woman.
This hysteria over not being qualified is a joke.
There's no move to be made. She's never been qualified and still isn't. That doesn't mean she has to run around knocking over faberge eggs and lawyering up to rip up contracts.
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On 4/26/2018 at 8:52 PM, Kingston Bills Fan said:
There is no way we would ever get near the value we gave up for Allen. If AJ plays great and he becomes our QB. They would never get a first and 2 seconds back for Allen!
2 firsts is easily in the ballpark for a hot QB prospect. That said, I don't think he has a shot of living up to his draft status, but hopefully I'm wrong.
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On 5/3/2018 at 10:52 AM, BadLandsMeanie said:
But as he said. it IS unusual for Buffalo.
Also it is next to unheard of in the entire NFL for a rookie head coach to come in and do all of that.
Rookie coach comes in, fires the GM (in essence). Can you think of a single example of that ever having happened on any team at any time?
If not, why are you in here saying it is normal?
That's not at all what happened, though. I'm 90% certain that the McDermott hire had next to nothing to do with Whaley being canned. WHaley was done as soon as the previous season ended, but he had years of research and prep done on the draft by that point. You can't bring in a new GM who hasn't picked or established any trust with the scouts and expect them to have any sort of success in the draft. The smart move is always firing the GM right after the draft.
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I would sooner they start AJ & Peterman this year to decide which to keep moving forward. Then next year they can draft a mid/late round QB and let the 3 of them have at it.
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17 hours ago, mead107 said:
Drew Brees has all sorts of yards.
Idont care about the yards I want wins.
5,000 yards mean nothing if you can’t throw the winning TD.
Win baby. 19-0 Baby
Which he also has? Are you trying to say he's not an all-time elite QB?
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2 hours ago, BigPappy said:
Love the one liner 716! Priceless!
I know the clip is a highlight reel, but he doesn't look too bad. I'm no NFL scout so what do i know, but he seems to have good instincts with the ball and can throw on the run. Hopefully our other QB's can also because with our OL they may need to do that a lot. Buffalo716 and BullBuchanan, you both seem to have the skinny on this guy. What is it about him that makes you say he's no more than a camp arm. I don't doubt you....merely curious of your thoughts.
Oh, I don't know him at all. Did some research after this was announced, but mostly came up empty. 3 year college player with a transfer to New Mexico sheet his freshman year, but still never really played. Only has a handful of games played in college. Elway took a look at him after the 2017 draft, but passed. He then proceeded to sign with the Blue Bombers but was released after the first preseason game with a bunch of other players.
Hit 61mph at his pro day, which would have been a combine record if invited, but has around 52% completion percentage over only around 100 college attempts.
My take is that he's never really shown anything to indicate he has any type of pro football future, but who knows?
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On 4/30/2018 at 3:46 PM, Seanbillsfan2206 said:
My favorite pick of the draft.
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Apparently this kid threw 61 MPH at his pro day. BUT, 3 year backup and got cut after his first CFL pre-season game. Not quite sure what Beane thinks could be there. It's pretty clear that they're searching for an Uncle Rico.
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2 hours ago, White Linen said:
I started to respond with actual thought but it's just not worth it. Ok, it's not possible for QB's to improve.
Actually the good ones improve in accuracy often. While throwing more passes.
Rodgers, Ryan, Wilson, Brady, Brees all have. I just picked those in a row, so there wasn't one that didn't that I picked. I'm sure there's more that have and maybe only a few that haven't . It's actually common for the good ones to improve - so absolutely no reason Allen can't, especially since he's already not inaccurate.
Yea, not really. The data shows that the best QBs in the league usually fall 2-3% within their college numbers. I've actually done the research back to the 83 draft and outside of Brees, Favre, Ryan and Moon it holds shockingly consistent. Kelly, Marino, Elway, Roethlisberger, Newton, both Mannings, Rivers, Prescott, all the guys listed below and a ton more follow this exact same phenomenon. Also worth mentioning that only Moon and Favre had numbers below acceptable in college and brought them up to pro-standard. brees and Ryan were already good to go.
Can it happen? Sure. Does it occur with any statistical significance? No, not really. Successful teams pick prospects based on percentages and risk/reward. Hoping for a QB to jump from 55% to 60% is like buying a lottery ticket and expecting to win.
Tom Brady: College 61.9% Pro 63.9%
Aaron Rodgers: College 63.8% Pro 65.1 %
Russel Wilson: College: 57.8%(NC) 72% (WI) 60.1%(Overall) Pro 64%
Drew Brees: College 61.1% Pro 66.9%
Matt Ryan: College 59.9% Pro 64.9%
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Sound Judgement, Accuracy, Confidence.
Montana and Brady built hall of fame careers on those pillars. Hell if Taylor had one of the last 2 he'd have been a great QB.
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Just now, Fadingpain said:
He makes it look easy, which I guess it is, when you remove 20 players from the field and just play catch with a receiver.
Is it possible that we could play some of our games in this manner this year?
We get two of those a year - 4th quarter Patriot games.
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Top 16 All Time QB's According to Gil Brandt of NFL.com
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by BullBuchanan
Yea, except some of the time, the QB has little to do with the team winning. Dilfer, Hostetler, McMahon, Flacco, Rypien, and the king among peasants and worst QB to ever win multiple championships: Terry Bradshaw.