BullBuchanan
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I guess they're only good if they parrot what you want to hear? I don't always agree with their takes, but I think the complaints are way overblown unless you need validation of your opinions.
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5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
we just kept passing the dollar back and forth. after the 3rd season the point was made that Vegas knew what it was doing.
or you could say Vegas was wrong 50% of the time
Vegas knows what it's doing in order to make the money even. Saying X team is going to have Y Wins, just means they want 50% on the over and the other 50% on the under, including payouts.
It's more about public perception than being accurate, but yeah the books know their stuff.
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6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
But you are sold on a QB that:
- Cant effectively use 30% of the field consistently or effectively because he doesn't have the arm strength to consistently and safely use the sidelines.
- Has 6 INTs, and 3 Fumbles in 52 career pass attempts.
- Has a sub 50% career comp percentage.
- Is the only QB to turn the ball over this year, and should have thrown another pick 6 on his first pass but the DB dropped it.
- Has been atrocious under pressure in the NFL
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And the only positive things you can say about him are:
- He had one good drive week 1 (before he threw another pick the next drive) on the first series of the entire preseason against partial starters and a vanilla D with no game plan. A defensive scheme he will never ever even one time face in a meaningful game.
- And then he threw another TD in week 2 that his pass was so poorly thrown it almost lost us a gimme TD on broken coverage.
This is the guy you are so SOLD on over Allen??? Its one thing to be optimistic, its another to be irrational. Allen's chances of succeeding are immensely better than NP's, not to mention he has a tremendously better arm and overall physical tool set. Does it mean NP can't beat the odds and succeed...no, but its beyond puzzling how much faith you have in a guy based on stats compiled against a Vanilla D he will never once ever see in an actual game and against 3rd string scrubs who won't be in the NFL. Not to mention, the stat box doesn't show just how weak he was against the 3rd string scrubs.
Yup. All of that.
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7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
LMAO...thanks for clarifying (as if we really needed you to) that you prefer Allen to fail so NP can make all your wet dreams come true
Not sure where you kids come up with this stuff. I'd far prefer Allen be successful. I just think it's highly unlikely.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
But you cheer for dropped pick sixes and blown coverages? This is definitely the weirdest set of opinions I've seen this year. The number of times you've brought up Josh Allen's first ever pass in a preseason game is very odd.
Is it kind of reminiscent of Nate Peterman's first ever half of professional football?
I don't cheer for busted plays, Bills fans in the stadium literally cheered for an out of bounds pass just because it was deep.
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6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
No, the guy we traded up to #7 for is our Franchise QB, something that Nate Peterman isn't and will never be.
You're full of nothing but hot air. You're going to change usernames before you start supporting Allen, who has clearly already made great strides from college to the draft process to OTAs to Minicamp to Training Camp to Preseason, you're just too foolish to notice.
The coaching staff of McDermott and Dabol clearly also feel the same considering Allen wasn't legitimately thought to be part of this QB competition until a week or 2 ago, but now for the first time during the preseason we know who our QB is going into the next game...
at the beginning of the week...
...for the dress rehearsal for the season opener.
If this isn't obvious to you yet SaviorPete... I mean, BurpleBu... I mean BullBuchanon... you should just change your username, get rid of all your old ones, and start fresh.
I've had the same handle for 17 years. Pay attention. I saw all of your nonsense on BBMB and it didn't fly there either. The Taylor threads were gold. Enjoy your time in the majority camp.
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2 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said:
I think you are lying to yourself if you can't admit that JA and NP are neck and neck in the competition. I feel like he is showing just as much promise as Dak and Russel did in the pre season. And I think Mcd/Beane have shown starting last year that draft status has nothing to do with playing time (IE Watkins/Darby being traded).
Not their picks/not in their club.
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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:
You don't care about Josh Allen... the Franchise QB your favorite team?
Then you must have been a fan of Peterman at Pitt in college and just naturally rolled your fandom to the Bills in the NFL.
I'm going to assume this is the case and at least go from zero respect for you to some respect.
So, you stick with your guy even if he's the backup
So a kid that's played 2 preseason games is now a "franchise QB". You're incorrigible. I'll be interested when he shows me something to be interested in, but just like EJ Manuel, I'm not counting on it. I'm not even that big of a Nate Peterman fan. I just see one guy doing everything that could possibly be expected of him, and a deeply flawed shiny toy who seems to be the same player he was in college, so far. I have no interest in cheering for 60 yard out of bounds passes, or talking about whatever "ceiling" means. If he shows consistent growth, I'll support him.
It's still a long way off from week 1.23 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said:This thread is hilarious. I can't wrap my head around people not being happy that our rookie QB is progressing fast enough to be considered starting week 1.
99% of this thread existed before that news came out a couple hours ago. My issue is that McDermott has always talked about accountability, earning your spot, and "The Process". If he ends up starting a kid week 1 that has underperfomed his competition, then what he's essentially saying as that as long as they have an investment in you, those things matter less, or not at all.
If I was in NP's shoes I'd be asking what else, precisely, I'd need to do to meet that standard. I'd be extremely curious what other young guys without draft status pedigrees on the team/around the league felt about it too. It just seems like the whole concept of a competition was a farce at this point and it was all a ploy to make him feel like he earned it. It's not like we're watching Wilson or Prescott's rookie season here. -
1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Cant help but notice you aren't participating in any of the Josh is starting game 3 threads. I was worried you pulled a David Cardine on us...
But here you are, alive and kicking -----------------------> a dead horse. Good for you lil buddy
I really don't really care about Josh Allen, or any of the trite comments on here about how he's the next coming. He'll have another opportunity on Sunday, and we'll see how he does.
I've yet to see an interesting post about him.
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6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Planet Earth? Yeah, you have already proven that with your posts.
Somewhere, somebody's dad gave a high five to this comment.
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Just now, Kelly the Dog said:
You kinda look familiar to me.
That's too bad. I wouldn't want to live there.
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2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:
They just had their chance and didn't even sign a guy knowing AJ can't play for a few practices.
For you you talking? There is not a chance that if you were the GM you would cut AJ McCarron and sign 48 year old Shane Matthews. So that was a lie.
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1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Liar.
Delusion seemingly knows no bounds.
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Just now, Kelly the Dog said:
I don't really know what that means. I have said the same thing about the quarterbacks 100 here times since the draft. Allen was going to start week one. McCarron will be the backup. Peterman will be lucky to make the team and will be signed to the PS. That is still a decent chance to happen as soon as McCarron is healthy. I don't think anyone of us knows whether AJ is going to be 100% by the first game. I would doubt it and if he hasn't practiced full go they will surely have Peterout as the backup.
McCarron has been skirting the line of awful. I'd rather have Shane Matthews back.
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1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:
McCarron, when completely healthy, which may not be for several weeks (allowing for the time to get back into the groove) will be the number two I'm pretty sure.
Weak bait post.
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4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:
I really don’t get the hate on Andrew Luck.
Has he lived up to his hype so far in his career? No but he’s still a good quarterback.
You think more people would realize that after he missed last year and the colts were one of the worst teams in the league without him.
The Colts have virtually no supporting cast around him outside of TY Hilton
And they've been that way for somewhere around 15 years. Peyton Manning tricked us into thinking guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie could play. Who knows what wouldve become of Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had he not showed up.
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3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
Should this wretched thread be locked?
I prefer watching tp make a fool of himself. This thread's going to read as bad as the rest of his do 2 years down the line.
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I think it's far more likely he goes straight back to dominating the division, and jacksonville crawls back to the basement where they belong.
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7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Never mind I thought you were talking about Cleveland for both the 2nd and 3rd team there.
Though that logic doesn't exactly imply Peterman will do better since it would apply even more so to Cleveland's 3rd team.
Realized I said Baltimore, meant Carolina.
Peterman had two strong bodies of work. Once against the first string of a playoff team and once against the 3rd string of an 0-16 team. Allen flashed talent week 1 against Carolina's 3rd string, but ultimately didn't have the kind of day you'd like your starting QB to have. He then played very well against the 0-16 backups.
I didn't bring up strength of competition, but since happy did, that's the result
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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:
That doesn't make any sense at all.
Help me help you.
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37 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
The preseason completion percentage leaders are Jameis Winston, Cody Kessler, Colt McCoy, Sam Darnold, Jake Rudock, Ryan Griffin, Chad Kelly, Joshua Dobbs, Cooper Rush, and Jeff Driskel.
This is wrong. And without counting the number of individual mistakes they each had, one of Peterman's was effectively a pick six and one effectively prevented a TD on a blown coverage. I say effectively because he played against future insurance salesmen.
Allen played against salesmen from a different city and performed worse. It's a bad argument.
Since you brought this up, It also shouldn't be discounted that Allen's wonderful performance came against an 0-16 team's second string. You could make a very reasonable argument that Carolina's 3rd string has stronger talent.
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1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Do you think Mark Kelso knows anything about football and is a decent or good analyst?
I think he's better than Steve Tasker and that's about it. He does a decent job of explaining coverages to common people and outside of that I hear about 5 minutes of pre game from him a week. Sounds like a standard local former athlete to me.
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16 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
I think the thing you both missed was it wasn't about whether he recognized it but how much credit do you really give him for that.
You can only give him credit/ding him for the opportunities he's had, and then you want to constantly change the parameters of what constitutes a valid opportunity. He threw back to back touchdown bombs week 1.
Oh, 1 didn't count because of a penalty. The other doesn't count because reasons. The O'Leary TD doesnt count because he was open. The KB snow bowl TD bomb doesn't count because red grapes are better than green grapes.
85% completion because defenses don't try against NP, easy passes, and it's preseason, but JA's 56% is coming against a stacked Cleveland second unit that game planned against him for months and hacked into the playbook server to try to shut him down, and failed miserably .
BUTWHATABOUTTHEDEEPOUT!?!?!?
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28 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:
the ignorant bias against nate is ....well just ignorant. when the bbmb first shut down and i found this place, there were people hear saying that those bbmb "refugees" were ruining it here. i thought that was wrong, but tranny and kellythepooch are proving their point. please shut this thread down. if peterman is the starter week one....and wins, they will still find a way to pick him apart. i'm not even gonna waste my time on here...at least for a while. so far , they have been proven wrong and getting a face full of nate time and again,but still keep coming.
the bold describes them and the left in general to a tee...
This has pretty much been my experience, but I think you've mixed up your directions. I'd bet money that these guys aren't in my camp on that subject either.
8 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:Only regular and post season games count. Peterman's performances in them has been godawful. The worst half in NFL history. The problems I and many others here had with him before, during and after his performances have not been fixed at all, even by his supposed stellar play this preseason.
He hasn't thrown ONE PASS that that would allay those fears, which were the same reason he was a fifth round pick. And until he shows in real games that he can do what I and others say he cannot do, which he hasn't even shown in this historic preseason that he has had, that problem still exists.
KB touchdown in the snow bowl. Stop ranting on 2 quarters of football like it defines a career. It makes you look even more foolish.
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