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8 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Totally agree with that. But to me, you cannot start Peterman because you are worried Allen may make mistakes. Peterman is a master craftsman of mistakes.
Not in college or on any game besides 1 he played. He played well in the snow bowl and every preseason game this year and last.
San Diego probably has 2 Superbowl wins by now if they didn't get enamored with a big strong QB over a smaller guy with less of an arm that just figured out how to move the chains.
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3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Well... he outperformed him yesterday and although Peterman played well against Carolina, he wasn't challenging the D in the way Allen was.
And by the way, shouldn't this criteria be the same in reverse? Peterman hasn't been consistently outperforming anyone in camp...
Why do you want to give him a free lunch? Is it a bagged lunch you're used to packing him? Was I mistaken earlier... you're his Mom, not his wife?
Troll attempt 0/10. Try again. You can ignore reality if it suits your palette. Plenty of people do these days. Allen had a great game yesterday. I have no motive to take that away from him. However, Peterman's game was even better. The guy has been neck and neck with McCarron in camp, at worst, from every single report, and he's drastically outperformed everyone in live games.
I get it - you're excited. It's natural. But Allen, to this point, has still been second best. You should be excited for the fact that we have two QBs doing well, instead of trying to tear one down to forward an agenda
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39 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
So... troll...???
Blind homer...?
I'm having such a hard time figuring it out.
I just wonder if you're even going to cheer for Allen when he's the starting QB this year.
I will if he earns the job and isn't given a handout. As soon as he proves he can outperform the guy above him on a consistent basis, start him. No free lunch.
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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:
And you are evidently Nate Peterman's wife.
You called Peterman's performance "near flawless" and that is factually incorrect to the point of being laughable.
His first 2 drives he looked absolutely lost the entire time--all 6 plays since it was 2 straight 3 & outs.
1st pass shoulda been yet another pick.
Next play sacked.
3 & out
Next pass was simply a badly inaccurate pass.
Next play he tries passing the ball 2 yards past the LOS as he's running towards the sidelines.
Next play he believes he's some uber athletic QB and ends up scrambling on a 3rd and 13.
That's how he started.
No matter what follows that, anyone who calls his play "near flawless" after a start like that is either a blind homer or a troll.
85% through 2 games, kid. straight facts. Outperformed Allen significantly both games on every stat that exists. /thread.
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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Allen did that on first down? I could of sworn it was 4th down.
Oh, ok. So we're doing that now.
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6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
Pickerman's first pass last night sealed it for me. That should have been a pick 6, but the 3rd string CB couldn't pull it off. A first string CB will. Allen's ball is so fast that the CB won't have time to make the pick 6. Allen should be the Bills starting QB against B'more.
False: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_career.htm
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3 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
Pickerman's first pass last night sealed it for me. That should have been a pick 6, but the 3rd string CB couldn't pull it off. A first string CB will. Allen's ball is so fast that the CB won't have time to make the pick 6. Allen should be the Bills starting QB against B'more.
And Allen flinging the ball up in the air last week while getting tackled was every bit as bad. That was "almost a pick six" too. What's your point?
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I think it would make sense for them to scour the waiver wire if a young player makes an aging one expendable somewhere around the league.
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53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
When will this myth die? There is a lot more to arm strength than throwing the ball deep. A good example is the pick six Peterman threw that the defender dropped. If Allen throws that ball it is a completion. Peterman can't throw those short outside hitches, Allen can hit then easily.
There's also a lot more to completing passes than Arm strength. You don't always have to play hero ball and fit a ball in a tight window to make a great play. If your scheme and your WRs arent complete trash, you should be able to make a good play without needing a cannon. Maybe you can't make "that" play, but lots of Hall of Fame QBS didn't have rocket launchers. I feel like the barometer for NFL arm has gotten thrown out of whack around here, because Allen has one of the strongest arms in he last 30 years, at least. You don't need that to complete passes and win football games.
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6 hours ago, Commonsense said:
We always hear, if you don’t start your best QB you are in danger of losing the team. McD needs to start Allen. There is no debate on who the better QB is.
So shouldn't that be the guy with the most yards per attempt, completion percentage and touchdowns? Starting Allen ahead of Peterman at THIS point is giving him a handout. Make him earn the job by playing better.
2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:Um Peterman is a career 50% QB, where do you get this 85% nonsense?
Oh wait...I know...one drive against literally the most Vanilla D possible with no game plan, a scheme he will never once ever face in an actual game because it was the first preseason game of the season...combined with a quarter against scrubs who won’t be in the NFL in 2 weeks.
Against real competition he’s sub 50% in regular and post season with 6 INTs and 3 Fumbles. And he’s the only QB to turn the ball over this preseason and almost had another pick 6 on his first pass against scrubs yesterday.
Yet you want to act like he’s some high percentage completion guy all of a sudden. If he was capable of regularly doing what you say, he would have been leading this competition by a wide margin and AJM wouldn’t have even had a chance to start yesterday. But you see, he is NOT dominating or consistent in practice either the way you describe him. Instead you are over exaggerating SCRIMMAGE type scenarios as if it’s his normal output.
So why hasn’t the king sealed the job in practice if he’s so accurate like you say?
Against the exact same players Peterman is 85% and Allen is 56%. Peterman torched 1's, and Allen did pretty well too, but not as well. Peterman then destroyed the 3's and Allen struggled. It's public record - Peterman is 85% through the pre-season. Last season is in the past. Nate was also a 61% college passer,s o not sure where you get 50% from
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Peterman can't throw a 60 yard bomb, but Allen can't complete 85% of his passes either. I'll take the guy that keeps us on the field until Allen is clearly better. They shouldn't give him the job until he consistently outperforms the guy in front of him. Once that happens, I'm team Allen.
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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Evidently you missed his 1st 2 drives (that 1st pass alone was a doozy... typically Peterman though) and weren't paying attention to the busted coverages he was a beneficiary of when he was playing against scrubs.
Sorry, I can't hear you over his 85% completion percentage throughout the preseason. He went 8/10 113 and a TD. Allen went 9/19 against those "scrubs" last week. so what does that say? He's outperformed Allen in both games against 1rst and 3rd string players. You're starting to look like a fool.
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Lots of Bills fans pegged the Bills as losers for picking Allen too. It's not some global conspiracy to get the Bills to move to Toronto. I'm pretty sure ESPN and The Bleacher report don't give two !@#$s that the NFL has the audacity to have teams in the rust belt. I'm well aware of media bias, and I'm also well aware of the "everything is fake news - no collusion" crowd. Just because something is printed or said doesn't mean it has to have an agenda beyond the facts.
There are plenty of indisputable facts for why some people think he's a bad prospect including win/loss, accuracy, and very weak competition. If the kid earns respect they'll give it to him.
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Meanwhile, Peterman continues to play near perfect football.
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20 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
And you are just waking up to the fact the national media is garbage? Why do you think most Americans go to late night comedians and youtube for news?
The national media is far and away trash. No journalistic integrity. Most are run by multi-national corporations.
People turn away from the news because they don't like the story they tell, so they turn to places like this so that they can bask in an echo chamber. Just because people disgaree with doesn't mean they lack integrity.
It's also funny to me that you seem to be implying that the bleacher report is "national media". You can write a Josh Allen article on there if you feel you have more "journalistic integrity".-
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The word "ceiling" is one of the most overused and meaningless words in sports. I'm pretty everyone, including their mothers, would have agreed that JaMarcus Russell had a higher ceiling than Tom Brady and Joe Montana if they were all in the same draft together. I care far more about a player's average, and to some extent their floor. Jay Cutler made $120 million dollars based on his ceiling, and I don't have any need for that.
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2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
He isnt practice squad eligible though.
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On 8/11/2018 at 12:04 AM, transplantbillsfan said:
The difficulty of preseason though is separating appearance from reality... Peterman was an All-star last preseason, too... remember?
I'm okay if he ends up starting, but his ball velocity still looks like something DBs salivate over. His sideline passes will forever terrify me... I think I have PTSD just from watching him last year.
I hope you didn't pull something grasping at those straws. He threw with more velocity than Taylor coming out of college and tied with McCarron, who people around here seem to think has a better arm. Brady had a noodle arm his first couple of years and it didn't slow him down. Arm strength can be improved, and Nate just revamped his mechanics this offseason. I hate having to look like I'm SaviorPeterson to defend this kid from the absolute bananas takes you guys have.
I think the kid can be good if all the chips fall right for him, but I'm not saying he's going to be some elite player. It's absolutely ridiculous the lengths that Allen fanboys will go to to gain an inch in the debate about who should start. Maybe we should just start Logan Thomas since he set the all-time record?-
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1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:
You have a reading comprehension problem. Kirby mentioned Alex Smith as the MVP candidate last year specifically to emphasize the outlier that situation was.
Nathan Peterman is not Alex Smith...
Neither is AJ McCarron, for that matter.
Translation... Allen will very very likely start meaningful regular season games in 2018.
I bet he doesn't. You should hope he doesn't. He's miles away from ready for that responsibility.
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13 minutes ago, greeneblitz said:
That' not how they would do it if they're using Cam Newton as a model, who went from 3rd string to starter in game 2 of the season.
I think it would be silly to use Cam Newton as a model, and I don't think they're doing that here. I could be wrong, and they may trot him out there for some reason. As of today, he's the least ready QB on the roster.
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2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:
Are you suggesting that the Chiefs signed UDFA Chase Litton to be their franchise QB? Or, are they handing the reigns to Chad Henne?
no. ESL?
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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
There has never, ever, ever been a guy that was taken with a top 10 pick (and 2 2nds) that a team isn’t moving into the lineup. It has literally never happened and isn’t happening here. His development is independent of them. Alex Smith was an MVP candidate for much of last year and is in Washington now. That’s the way it works. You ALWAYS play your guy. As soon as Allen is ready we are going to see him.
FWIW, I had an interesting conversation with my brother today who was a college QB and a high school OC. He said that the main reason that Allen has to move up the depth chart now is so that you can develop his flaws. Allen playing behind a sieve of an OL is never going to give him a chance to work on his footwork or his progressions. Every play is a broken play. Yesterday looked like Allen at Wyoming. He was infinitely more talented than the guys around him and had to play playground football. That isn’t what the Bills need to see to accurately evaluate him. That is the biggest task. The investment that they made in him dictates that he will be given the job at some point. They need to do their part to make sure that he is ready for that point.
Like Mahomes? lol. I didn't even have to go back more than 1 draft to shatter that statement.
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1 hour ago, Nanker said:
How about a report on the Allen haters. Were they at least given Tylenol or perhaps Mydol?
He's still the 3rd string QB, right? Ok, cool.
If I Could Ask McDermott One Question
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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So they knew a full year in advance that Allen would be a good player, and be available to them at their pick, so they could throw away what was in their lap? Complete nonsense.
For the record, I was Team Watson.