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43 minutes ago, Logic said:
The following article was written by Mike Tanier, noted Josh Allen hater. And when I say "hater", I mean that the publication he co-authors called Allen "A parody of an NFL quarterback prospect". Anyway, it's a pretty fair article, and points to cautious optimism that Allen may just turn out to be good after all, despite the hot takes of so many "draft experts".
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2850542-buffalo-bills-josh-allen-starting-to-prove-doubters-and-haters-wrong.amp.html
"If Allen develops a decent short game, remains a rushing threat and can hit on the intercontinental ballistic launches just a little more regularly, well, that's a pretty darn good quarterback. And a lot of folks, including me, will be eating some old takes.
Allen may still be a work in progress, but he's no punchline. In fact, he's what the Mayock types told us he would be: the high-upside guy with a lot to learn. The upside is still there, the learning continues, and Allen looks ready to help the Bills win a few games during his on-the-job training.
Maybe the old NFL guard really does know what it's talking about now and then. Imagine that."
Based on what? I'm hopeful that the guy can become a competent NFL QB, but that's all it really can be at this point - hope. The preseason has been encouraging, but if it were any other QB the Bills have trotted out it would be "it's preeeeeeeseason".
So far he's been pretty much the same player he was when he was drafted, and he has to prove he can grow significantly from that. That Josh Allen wasn't good enough to win in the Mountain West and we need him to win in the AFC East and in a now loaded conference that looks like it will be extremely tough for the foreseeable future. -
Great article.
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2 hours ago, RiotAct said:
I think it was 6 firsts actually.
Aren't you forgetting the pick we used to draft him?
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9 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said:
Correct. Only a "blind Homer" and the "We're Doomed" guy would make the comment that we are rooting for him to fail.. When he starts hitting 60 % and above consistently and can actually throw guys open, my opinion will change. Bottom half of the league QB---> no Doubt
Pretty much where I stand with him. There are many inferior talents that are far superior QBs in the league right now, but I've never been a fan of crafting QBs out of stone. Other positions, absolutely. Go get the guy that can run a 4.2 40 and jump over a moving car.
QBs are different and so much of the teams success rests on their shoulders.
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2 hours ago, dneveu said:
My biggest issue with the allen "haters" isn't that that they think he may not be a good QB, or that he may never develop. My issue - They actively root for him to fail... so they can be right
I don't. I want very desperately to be wrong. He's looked improved in the pre-season. If the touch he's shown on short passes can continue to develop and shows itself when throwing down the field, then he'll be on the right track.
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1 hour ago, Mark80 said:
I don't know what people's obsession for a first round pick is. You can have a pick that has a 50/50 shot of being a bust basically or you can have a guaranteed stud. If I can afford it, I'm taking the stud. He's also at an optimal RB age to give a deal where you are not on the hook for much money after 3 or 4 years and you get 3 or 4 years of prime age performance. He runs great, he blocks great, he catches balls great, he does it all. Not to mention if the pick is a bust you are wasting millions in cap on a bad player.
I completely agree and have said this for years. it's insane to me that when a "prospect with potential" is drafted high it's worth it, but then a guy goes out and proves he's a stud, like Randy Moss, and he gets traded for a 4th, twice.
For every guy that turns into a superstar there's 10 guys that range between Aaron Maybins, Donte Whitner, Spiller, McCargo, etc. I would trade my first round pick for a superstar every single year, regardless of position as long as it didn't cause a cap problem.And if a team wants to trade you an inexpensive proven vet for a 2nd 3rd, I'd do it every time.
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KC is as good as any team could hope to be as long as Hill can keep himself out of jail and Damien Williams wasn't just a one hit wonder. If anyone was going to go 19-0, I think these guys are on par with the '07 Patriots.
I think the NFC North will be the best division in football this year, and I could see a situation where all 4 of them have an 8-8 or better record. I think you're way off on the lions. They have some pretty sick talent in Golladay and I think Kerryon Johnson will break out. Stafford has alwasy been a very good QB, and if they can get improved Defensive play they'll be a tough team to play against. I don't have the bears falling off, and think that GB and the Vikings will bounce back very strong.
The SF take is also a bit weak. 9-7 or better. Seahawks finish in 3rd place in that division with their RB by committee, no offensive playmakers not named Wilson, and a somehow still aging defense now minus Earl Thomas. I think they win 5 games and Pete Carroll retires/gets fired -
31 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
These logos look like they paid designers with exposure.
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Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
Wait. Are you Irish too?
Depends on the company I'm keeping. My ancestors liked to pass it around it seems.
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Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
I am not used to this response on an internet message board. What do I do now?
We bury it deep down, go our separate ways and pretend this never happened.
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1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
They have a notoriously bad secondary (outside of adams, who is just OK) and just lost a starting LB. Mosley is a two down linebacker. This is true in the context of the NFLs passing league. I cannot imagine a scenario where their defense is in the same tier as ours, the second DVOA defense in the league.
Their O-Line is a mess. They brought in a retired Center to start for them. By any measure, they were as bad if not worse than the Bills last year. This year, we have brought a number of vets, including one of the top Centers in the league.
QB and WR are a wash.
Bell is an amazing back, but hasn't played in a full year, is on the verge of being out of his prime, and playing behind a substantially worse OL than he had at PItt. I don't care how good Bell is, with that line, he will not be the same player.
I cant wait to bet the Bills -3.
I don't disagree with any of that. I think I'm just a little more bullish on them and a bit more conservative on us. -
2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
I will never understand this response. I honestly cannot understand why the act of analyzing another team is worthy of criticism. It is literally what gamblers do when setting their bets.
Of course they need to play the games, but at the outset, it looks like the Jets are really bad. It is a game the Bills should be favored in. I cannot understand why they aren't, and it is definitely a game I will be betting.
Why do you think the Jets are really bad? What makes them any worse than our guys at this point?
The have a QB that most (outside of Buffalo) looks better than ours right now, they signed CJ Mosely (who is an absolute beast) and they have Leveon Bell?
They have every reason to think their D should be int he same tier as oursTheir WR group is probably close to equal or a little under
Their O-line has a little more proven talent, but call it a wash
Their QB probably is probably a small step ahead of ours
Their RB situation is way better than ours
I think the betting line of having this game be an even spread (including home field) is exactly where it should be right now.
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Last I checked, there were 23 of them.
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18 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
The Hate is Real.
Still, anticipation and expectations are at an all time post ‘99 high. What happens if our record is worse than last year?
How far has ESPN fallen?
"Is Buffalo Bills head coach Sean McDermott on the hot seat entering 2019?
In a word-No."
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4 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:
They're smoking something. Allen has just as good legs and throws a much better ball. Lamar can not see the field. He's a glorified RB. I personally think Josh will be better than Darnold and in a year or two be at or better than Mayfield. Physically he is more gifted, it's just a matter of getting to read defenses pre-snap and make quicker decisions. By next year Josh will have that down. I love his attitude and approach to the game.
I agree with you on Jackson. As of right now I don't think Jackson looks like a long term starter, but outside of Buffalo, I think a lot of folks think the same about Allen due to his accuracy issues and I've got a foot half in that camp.
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46 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:
You'd seriously pick Rosen or Lamar over Josh. Gad we have the Beaner.
I wouldn't, but Jackson is now looked at on par or above Allen nationally.
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4 minutes ago, MR8 said:
Also please explain to me why this guy, who admits he knows next to nothing, he can't pass block, can't play special teams, and doesn't have the field vision to see his blocking down field and follow it should make an NFL Roster ahead of Murphy or Perry who both add value to the roster and know how to do all of those things.
Yeldon, Murphy, and Perry might know how to do things that he can't - they just happen to be bad at them. None of those players have an ounce of untapped potential. They've hit their ceiling as fringe NFL talent. This kid hasn't even begun to scrape the surface. That's the difference. He was one of the best in the world in Rugby, and is showing how some of those skills translate to the NFL I'll take potential over proven mediocrity any day for a 4th string player. None of them are likely to play anyway, so why do you care so much?
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It's been reported to be minor. probably just a scope.
https://sports.yahoo.com/dk-metcalf-knee-surgery-seahawks-carroll-041348918.htmla lot of these guys don't have the opportunity to take care of lingering things in college
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1 hour ago, MR8 said:
People need to pump the freaking breaks on this kid... he's making these big plays against guys who flat out WILL NOT be on 53 man rosters... and neither will he.
He's been fun to watch with 2 big plays, and I get it, he's a great story, but this guy is flat out not ready for the NFL. He doesn't play special teams, he doesn't know the ins and outs of playing the RB position, he can't block, he doesn't follow blocks when running, honestly how is this even a discussion????
I hope this kid does put it all together to make a name for himself in the NFL in 2020... but he's as raw as they come, and he WILL get through waivers because no team is going to want to put the amount of time and effort into getting this guy up to NFL Speed while carrying him on their 53 man roster. You need guys who can contribute NOW if you're going to be on the 53, and Wade doesn't have the value to be kept on an active roster. Not by the Bills and not by any of the other 31 teams.
Wade is a a great story and a project who COULD become something worth while on a 53 man roster once he learns how to do all the things RBs need to know... but he's a developmental project. Time on our PS would be INVALUABLE, as we don't need to use up a PS spot for him, and then he gets time to learn with the rest of the guys and get reps in practice. If there was a farm system I'd say send him down, but since there isn't, the only thing for him is the PS.
People need to stop being so carried away... let's not forget Nathan Peterman statistically is one of the best QBs int he NFL right now during pre-season, but we all saw what a tire fire of a player he is against real NFL talent.
Wade isn't ready, and wasting a roster spot on him is flat out stupid.
Who else is making plays against guys that won't be on 53 man rosters? He can only take advantage of the opportunities he's given. If he did it against the #1's would you say it's only pre-season?
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I feel like Bryan Scott would be a better pick than clay.
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1 minute ago, Rocket94 said:
Wade was given an opportunity to play football for the Buffalo Bills. So far, he is earning his own way, so if he makes the 53 he deserves it. If he continues to play like this there should be no doubts.
Unfortunately, sports isn't always a meritocracy. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them keep a guy like Perry or Yeldon over him even if he runs wild the final two games. Not one bit.
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Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
sorry mac, orton was a scrub back up, 9 seasons of accomplishing nothing. manuel, well, everyone knows his history. I'm not going back and forth with you on this because JA and MB are going to make their own history, a history that has not been written yet. I'm pretty confident though that they will fare much better then manuel/orton.
This is the dumbest thing I've read today. Thanks.
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Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
it's because there hasn't been enough games played by the present to even consider comparing to the past.
has nothing to do with the fact that both examples you use are mere scrubs.
This is literally the point of the thread...
Orton was never a scrub, he was just asked to be better than he was while he was here. He played 9 seasons in the league.
Manuel was definitely not a scrub entering his second season, either.
Josh Allen starting to prove doubters and haters wrong (BR article)
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Josh was better after his injury, but he was also really bad before it. The things he's always had problems with remained problems, but the game did slow down for him a bit.
As to his pre-season performance, I've said over and over again that it's encouraging. I like the changes to his short game, but we've seen a lot of pre-season heroes come through these parts. When the game isn't played at full speed it's hard to say whether or not it's real.