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BullBuchanan

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  1. No, the insistence that there is a context which bestows his words with racial/racist undertones is the thing that is brand new to a phrase with a nearly two century old colloquial understanding.

     

    You are modifying the English language, on the spot, in order to manufacture outrage.

    I think you'll find a lot of things that are two centuries old are now in extremely poor taste. Honestly, it doesn't matter if you think it was fine. You weren't the one the statement was directed at.

  2. Do you realize that detectives were at one point "uneducated" street cops? They weren't hired as detectives. Is there *any* part of this argument that you have any kind of credibility or understanding of?

     

    No they aren't uneducated. Most have required degrees and they have to pass an exam. By definition they are not uneducated. Traffic cops on the other hand were probably poor student meat heads at your local high school or kids that got picked on and want their revenge. The fact that I have to explain this to you tells me you're probably another intellectual bottom feeder.

  3. and charges being filed are just like officials throwing a flag on a questionable first down conversion. It gives them a mulligan in case they were right or wrong. Requesting charges just means that there's a second hand look that can take the pressure off the police Department because it commissioner or captain or other such things could just be too kitty to call it as he sees it.

     

    Seriously, it's why big plays often find a way to get flag the NFL, people don't have balls and it's easier to explain it when you can say oh well we reviewed it and somebody else confirmed it too

    my God you're dense. It is rare. 1000 people and how many instances of police interacting with anyone? How many times did police interact with suspects or those who might be violent? How many times did police have to draw their weapons? How many times did they fire? Of all of those cases which you could add up for what police did right you focus on some of those that are the cases of Michael Brown or Tamir rice etc. Both of which were 100% Justified.

    Saying these people got shot doesn't include the attack police? Do they have it coming? Why were they shot... Plus you can look at the racial makeup of them, most of them are white... But we're not going to worry about them. And then we can balance all of those guys to all the victims in shootings across the country in places like Chicago, Detroit, etc etc

     

    How is it dense to suggest that per capita the chance of being killed by a cop int he US is 3x what it is in canada or england. Are cops interacting with their citizens 3x less? Also worth mentioning those two countries rates are high when compared with other developed nations

  4. I know I am on the right side of the argument and no data is required to arrive at that conclusion. Ive read plenty on the subject and don't need any more. Training has little to do with the very rare instances of Police shootings. It's usually an error on the part of the subject. There will always be exceptions and that is what the media will focus on. Obviously believing that Police are thugs is such an asinine assertion it deserves no credence. A higher salary will not increase one's nerve or heart or bravery. That is not really an issue either. Comparing the US to a country where gun violence amongst citizens is very rare is a classic apples to oranges type deal. I've met plenty of Cops and haven't come across any I would remotely describe as thugs. Maybe things are different in Texas. It wouldn't shock me. If your takes are idiotic I will describe them as such. It's nothing personal, trust me.

     

    The biggest problem I have is that you're saying they are rare, and trying to make it seem like it isn't a problem. Roughly 1000 people were killed by police each year for the last 3 years. I'm guessing the number isn't lower going further back That's not rare at all, especially when compared with rates in other developed countries.

  5. Another hopelessly misinformed take. Now Police are out to " get their way"? Asinine. They are doing a job, and a difficult one at that. There is plenty of thinking involved, and often conversation yes. At times they will deal with folks in society who cannot be reasoned with. Or often in these (rare) situations when they must discharge their weapon, cannot or will not follow clear instructions. Many beat Cops become Detectives . I know a few personally. Most Cops are required to have an education. You seem to go through a lot of mental contortions in order to sympathize with thugs. Might be time to look in the mirror. It's hard to empathize with a perp unless you can somehow envision yourself being one.

     

    Nothing but accusations and personal attacks from you. Why so defensive? If you were truly on the right side of the argument you would be able to rely on data to back up your claim. I've provided data showing the training durations for cops in the US, others have posted detailed write ups concerning police killings, and I provided a video example. Each one seems to get you more defensive about your take and only results in you making assumptions about who I am and what I believe.

     

    I don't have any subtext here. I've laid it all out there pretty definitively. I believe that the police force attracts thugs, I believe they murder minorities and even white people when other means (including tasers) are widely available to them, and I believe it is a problem caused both by a lack of training and the lack of appeal to higher income earners. Most of that has data to back it up that has been provided, and the thug bit is my own personal bias from my experience.

  6. I can only hope that you're the guy in front of me when the knife wielding psycho is coming my way. While you're having your tough love moment with him I'll be looking for the heat.

     

    No problem. I've had a knife put to my throat before and managed to diffuse the situation without having to kill anyone or be harmed in the process. It's probably why companies pay me a lot of money to solve problems for them.

    You know what I take from that? The cops give you a chance to do the right thing. YOU decide if you comply. I’m not saying all cops are perfect, but it’s adifficult job.

     

    what I take from it is that in the UK you spend two years training to be a police officer before you become one, and in the US it can happen in as little as 9 weeks.

     

    Here in Texas it takes one year to become a licensed barber...

     

     

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/us/jobs-training-police-trnd/index.html

    https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/job-profiles/police-officer

  7. Completely useless and ineffective, huh? You couldn't possibly have this opinion because when it comes to the rules, laws, policies, and procedures the cops have to follow in order to solve your issue, you are completey ignorant? Right? Oh, that's right. ..those things are just words written down on paper by rich, old white men that are bent on keeping you down.

     

    Carry on.

     

    Look I don't expect much. We allow our police force to be uneducated, run them through an academy, and hand them a gun. I mean what do you expect. It doesn't help that police are poorly compensated, so people that have higher earning potential aren't enticed by the job. Instead those jobs to people used to getting their way through force, not through thinking and conversation. Detectives are a different story.

  8. Please. You replied " no they don't" to my statement that Cops need to defend themselves against the possibility of being shot. What universe are you living in? The US is not England or some other European utopia. If they don't need to , why does the law in the United States allow them to do so? You are quite ignorant, actually.

     

    the law is not a statement of morality or what is justifiable. They're just words on a page written mostly by old rich white men. The police exist to protect their property and collect taxes.

  9. Yeah...imaginary boogeyman. Go knock on the doors of anyone who lost a loved one in the line of duty and say the same thing. I guarantee you don't have enough hair on your balls to do so.

     

    "They know what they signed up for" - Your president.

     

     

     

    I don't know why people argue with this guy. He will never know how ignorant and a fool he is. No point in educating him. Let's all be happy he gets his nonsense out on a message forum, and not in the real world. And I know that, and would bet all I have, that he can't make a (negative) impact with whatever career he has/had thankfully.

     

    Seriously, people need to learn that a giant part of this country is going to be very very very ignorant people. No point in arguing with them.

     

    Truth. I'm hoping I live just long enough to see the last one die out.

  10. bwahahhahahahaha you're seriously using the michael bennett case when the evidence shows completely the truth? that he wasn't profiled? that he was running from the officers? that i think one was black and one was another minority?

     

    my god, you make this too easy. get out of here snowflake, you're gonna get torched.

     

    Running from gunshots is a crime, got it. He wasn't running from the officer- source: the police department. He was fleeing the scene of the shots.

  11. You can chalk that up to the presence of guns in the US. Cops need to defend against the possibility of being shot.

     

    No, they don't. Their job is to protect and serve, not to defend themselves from imaginary boogeymen looking to kill them at every confrontation. Their whole ability to do their job is based on conflict resolution. Anyone could resolve a situation by shooting someone when they have carte blanche. If they're so afraid of doing their jobs, they don't deserve to have one. Cowardice is not a defense for murder, even when you call it self-defense.

  12. Anything from the big 3 networks or CNN is so obviously biased to the liberal side that it just can't be accepted. Look, it's simple. Don't break the law and you will be fine. If you are pulled over follow instructions exactly and be civil. You will be fine. It's really not hard.

     

    ah, yea, the Fake News liberal media defense. What are your accepted non-biased sources? I'm betting I can find the data there too.

  13. please provide 3 cases of unarmed black men being unfairly killed. We will start with that. I only know of one that could be listed - the South Carolina or georgia deputy

     

    Your social justice nonsense is just that. Nonsense. You provide the proof you think people need to see and the statistical information. Then someone provides the actual proof from the federal government who is on your proverbial side.

     

    You won't win this. Facts prove you're 100% wrong to think it's an issue

     

    Yea, I won't win this because I don't work for Breitbart. The fact that you need me to dig up information that's been widely circulated for years, tells me all I need to know about you.

     

    Nothing to see here:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/las-vegas-police-explain-michael-bennett-incident-deny-claim-of-racial-profiling/

    I wasn't even alive in the '50s . A few videos being sensationalized in the modern social media era hardly mean these things are common. They aren't. It's really a few isolated incidents being blown out of proportion by liberal media that were stumping for Clinton. The numbers on Police shootings show they are not common in a nation the size of ours. It's a narrative being pushed by those with a liberal agenda that can't accept that their candidate lost. That's really it. Most of us are not racists. If you think you will find institutionalized racism then you likely will. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Remember, lack of money is the root of all evil. These issues are socio economic , not racial.

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

     

    More police killings in a month than in 24 years in England? multiply by 6, carry the two....yea , still BS

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